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    President Barack Obama, courting young voters crucial to his reelection, told a rowdy college-age crowd at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill on Tuesday that he knows first-hand about the burden of student loans because he only managed to pay his back a scant eight years ago.

    "Michelle and I, we've been in your shoes," Obama, who turns 51 in August, told a cheering, capacity crowd of 8,000 at Carmichael Arena.

    "Check this out, all right. I'm the president of the United States. We only finished paying off our student loans off about eight years ago. That wasn't that long ago. And that wasn't easy--especially because when we had Malia and Sasha, we're supposed to be saving up for their college educations, and we're still paying off our college educations," he said.

    The president's emphasis on his modest upbringing seemed designed to invite comparisons to presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney. The White House has denied specifically targeting the multi-millionaire financier with such attacks even as the Obama campaign has pointedly attacked Romney's personal finances.

    Obama's stop in North Carolina was the first on a two-day, campaign-style swing through battleground states to reengage young voters who powered his historic 2008 campaign but seem less enthused about the 2012 election. His chief policy message was an appeal for Congress to pass legislation to stop interest rates on a popular student loan from doubling July 1 from 3.4 percent to 6.8 percent. "I didn't just read about this. I didn't just get some talking points about this. I didn't just get a policy briefing on this," the president said to laughter from the crowd.

    "We didn't come from wealthy families. When we graduated from college and law school we had a mountain of debt. When we married, we got poor together. We added up our assets and there were no assets. And we added up our liabilities and there were lot of liabilities—basically in the form of student loans," Obama said of himself and Michelle Obama.

    The president said he and his wife paid more on their student loans than they did on the mortgage on their condo during their first eight years of marriage.

    The Republican National Committee and the Romney campaign had struck preemptively at Obama's message even before he had left the Beltway, holding conference calls to underscore young workers' struggles in the three years since he took office.

    "He forgot to mention that he failed to address student loans the past three and a half years and skipped a vote in the Senate on the very same issue. In his speech he said, 'it requires not just words but deeds.' We tend to agree," RNC spokeswoman Kristen Kukowski said after the president's speech.

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    I don't know that I believe this. One would think that Obama would qualify for a pretty nice scholarship if he was Editor of the Law Review at Harvard. They don't hand those jobs to people at the bottom of the class. Hell, I only had to pay for my books through law school. I know I didn't go to Harvard, but if I can get a scholarship I am sure Obama should have been able to secure one.

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    IIRC, there's about $25B student loans owed by people 60+ years old.

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    So I did a little research. He did not claim an interest deduction from 2000- 2005. I am calling BS on this one, unless they received a 0% interest student loan. I know lots of students who don't get that deal.

    http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_b...tax_return.pdf

    http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_b...tax_return.pdf

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    So I did a little research. He did not claim an interest deduction from 2000- 2005. I am calling BS on this one, unless they received a 0% interest student loan. I know lots of students who don't get that deal.

    http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_b...tax_return.pdf

    http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_b...tax_return.pdf
    I had a student loan after my doctorate that took me ten years to pay off. My kid was in high school by the time I got it done. I don't remember the interest rate (it was super low) but I remember not bothering to claim it because it was so little it didn't amount to anything. IIRC, the entire monthly payment was only between 30 and 40 bucks per month, and you had one of those coupon books (I know I'm showing my age here) and I don't even know if the interest was spelled out, so I was unlikely to know it.

    I wouldn't assume he was fibbing about this, if for no other reason than you KNOW someone is going to check it out. It really isn't important one way or another.

    I paid through the nose for my education. My kids never paid a cent. So, my kids were like Romney in that respect. Nobody is going to infer anything much from this, imo.

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    I had a student loan after my doctorate that took me ten years to pay off. My kid was in high school by the time I got it done. I don't remember the interest rate (it was super low) but I remember not bothering to claim it because it was so little it didn't amount to anything. IIRC, the entire monthly payment was only between 30 and 40 bucks per month, and you had one of those coupon books (I know I'm showing my age here) and I don't even know if the interest was spelled out, so I was unlikely to know it.

    I wouldn't assume he was fibbing about this, if for no other reason than you KNOW someone is going to check it out. It really isn't important one way or another.

    I paid through the nose for my education. My kids never paid a cent. So, my kids were like Romney in that respect. Nobody is going to infer anything much from this, imo.
    Were the coupon books parchment, or were ya'll still using vellum back then?
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    Were the coupon books parchment, or were ya'll still using vellum back then?
    All I actually remember is that they were dark blue on the outside. You'd think that after ten years of them I'd at least be able to remember, wouldn't ya? Memory...one of the first casualties of olth.

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    I'm sorry...what were we talking about?


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    I had a student loan after my doctorate that took me ten years to pay off. My kid was in high school by the time I got it done. I don't remember the interest rate (it was super low) but I remember not bothering to claim it because it was so little it didn't amount to anything. IIRC, the entire monthly payment was only between 30 and 40 bucks per month, and you had one of those coupon books (I know I'm showing my age here) and I don't even know if the interest was spelled out, so I was unlikely to know it.

    I wouldn't assume he was fibbing about this, if for no other reason than you KNOW someone is going to check it out. It really isn't important one way or another.

    I paid through the nose for my education. My kids never paid a cent. So, my kids were like Romney in that respect. Nobody is going to infer anything much from this, imo.
    You are right. He might not have prepared his taxes and whoever did, might not have claimed it because it would not have amounted to much of a savings. BS was probably a poor choice of words on my part.

    That said, Obama is calling attention to this by giving his college speeches to kids. Someone is bound to follow up on this, I can't be the only person who thought it was strange that the President only paid off his loans in 2004 even though he and his wife were making a couple hundred thousand dollars a year.

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    I'm sorry...what were we talking about?


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