Racism revisited

[IWantsACuatro]

I am saying nobody cared and it was nothing to speak of.

Because you're revisting racism, correct?

[RaZon]

I'm telling you to prove it without using the internet.

Did he run a 9.3 or not? The internet has what to do with that

[cantthinkofanything]

But you know what...I am willing to give you credit for making your lists vague enough that led me right into your troll. You got me.

[cantthinkofanything]

Did he run a 9.3 or not? The internet has what to do with that

He ran a 9.3. I already found it...like you did...on the internet.

[RaZon]

Because you're revisting racism, correct?

Sorry I misunderstood.

Wariner is one of the greatest 400 guys ever. Xiang one of the greatest hurdlers,

Now lets look at all those great white 400m guys and Asian hurdlers. When compared to black 400 guys and 110hurdlers, Wariner and Xiang are oddties/rare. Not the norm at all.

[RaZon]

He ran a 9.3. I already found it...like you did...on the internet.

Wrong.

I read it in an old Track & Field News mag.

You were going to kick your ass kicked slick.


Jim HinesUSA 9.11 Charles GreeneUSA 9.1A3 Paul NashRSA 9.23 Lennox MillerJAM 9.2A5 Arnaldo BristolPUR 9.35 Clarence RayUSA 9.35 Jacob HenryUSA 9.35 Tommie SmithUSA 9.3A5 Bill MillerUSA 9.35 Kirk ClaytonUSA 9.3


Dude, I wasn't alive in 1936 so anytime I talk about Jesse Owens it will be something I read. What difference does it make where info is obtained? Have I seen every single track meet over the last 100 years...nope! So chances are I will be reading about things...right?

Are you really as fucked up as you appear here?

[cantthinkofanything]

Wrong.

I read it in an old Track & Field News mag.

You were going to kick your ass kicked slick.


Jim HinesUSA 9.11 Charles GreeneUSA 9.1A3 Paul NashRSA 9.23 Lennox MillerJAM 9.2A5 Arnaldo BristolPUR 9.35 Clarence RayUSA 9.35 Jacob HenryUSA 9.35 Tommie SmithUSA 9.3A5 Bill MillerUSA 9.35 Kirk ClaytonUSA 9.3

I'll tell you what. If you can post a pic in the next hour of one of these old magazines you have laying around with some proof that it's you today, I'll not post for a while.

[IWantsACuatro]

I'll tell you what. If you can post a pic in the next hour of one of these old magazines you have laying around with some proof that it's you today, I'll not post for a while.

Deal!

[RaZon]

But you know what...I am willing to give you credit for making your lists vague enough that led me right into your troll. You got me.

I didn't do anything but assume the average human could figure out why a 9.3 just stood out there.

You honestly don't know shit about this do you?

[RaZon]

I'll tell you what. If you can post a pic in the next hour of one of these old magazines you have laying around with some proof that it's you today, I'll not post for a while.

If it's me.??? Don't get it.

I'm telling you man. big football/track freak here, for you to still play..."no you aren't"...why?

[Why?]

Why is it the same few posters in every razon thread?

[RaZon]

Why is it the same few posters in every razon thread?

Which does make one wonder...

Does RaZon have his few pets and knows how to work them?

[cantthinkofanything]

I didn't do anything but assume the average human could figure out why a 9.3 just stood out there.

You honestly don't know shit about this do you?

Right. I honestly didn't know that you decided to list a group of world class 110 hurdlers and were posting their top 100 meter times. And right, I didn't make the connection that he was running the 100 yard dash. The much simpler conclusion was that you were just being an idiot.

In any event, you busted my ass with that shit.

[IWantsACuatro]

Sorry I misunderstood.

Wariner is one of the greatest 400 guys ever. Xiang one of the greatest hurdlers,

Now lets look at all those great white 400m guys and Asian hurdlers. When compared to black 400 guys and 110hurdlers, Wariner and Xiang are oddties/rare. Not the norm at all.

IMO, I think it has alot to do with training and sample size. Most white sprinters run track to stay fit in the off-season sport(s) of their choice - football, whereas traditionally "white" sports such as soccer and baseball are in season during track season, so the best "white" athletes are already devoted.

The white sprinters are usually using track to train for something else, which gives them a huge disadvantage against other "real" track athletes who train specifically for that event year round. As with most sports, typically the younger you start, the better you'll do as you mature.

When you have a country such as Jamaica entirely devoted to one track event, you'll naturally have a high amount of sprinters coming out of that region. Are there any other countries in the world so devoted to that event?

As with alot of sprinters, most of them come out of high density urban centers that have a higher black population. Not only is there significantly more competition as a result, but you have a higher sample size to choose from.

Xiang and Wariner are "exceptions" because they've devoted their entire lives to that "one" event they're good at, despite not being black. Bob Hayes, as you stated, was the greatest sprinter ever. He would not have been if he only played football and then started running track.

[RaZon]

IMO, I think it has alot to do with training and sample size. Most white sprinters run track to stay fit in the off-season sport(s) of their choice - football, whereas traditionally "white" sports such as soccer and baseball are in season during track season, so the best "white" athletes are already devoted.

The white sprinters are usually using track to train for something else, which gives them a huge disadvantage against other "real" track athletes who train specifically for that event year round. As with most sports, typically the younger you start, the better you'll do as you mature.

When you have a country such as Jamaica entirely devoted to one track event, you'll naturally have a high amount of sprinters coming out of that region. Are there any other countries in the world so devoted to that event?

As with alot of sprinters, most of them come out of high density urban centers that have a higher black population. Not only is there significantly more competition as a result, but you have a higher sample size to choose from.

Xiang and Wariner are "exceptions" because they've devoted their entire lives to that "one" event they're good at, despite not being black. Bob Hayes, as you stated, was the greatest sprinter ever. He would not have been if he only played football and then started running track.

I really do appreciate the seriousness you displayed there. Obviously you've spent some time coming up with that.

Here's my take...

Asia, Germany, Poland. USSR etc have had sprinters. So how come none of those sprinters ever ran as fast as what we have seen coming out of poor Nigeria? China vs Nigeria when it comes to training....no contest. Yet, we never see a great Chinese 100m man. Nigeria has had a slew of sub10.00 guys. How come?

What we really have is a certain human being with roots to western Africa blessed with a unigue pyhsique. A physique with unique physical charactersistics that gives them an advantage in certain athletic events, events that require speed, agility and quicknesss.

Do you watch football? Ever notice (of course you do) those quick, speedy elusive black running backs and receivers. That is a trait found in abundance in black athletes. Go ahead give me the name of a similiar white athlete? How about the size with speed? Bo Jackson, Herschel Walker both around 220 pounds with great speed. How about tall and fast like Usain Bolt, Tommie Smith, Randy Moss? Where are the similiar white athletes?

Sure we'll see that once in awhile exception, but it is just that...rare.

It's not about anything other than unique physical characteristics we find in those with western African roots.

[RaZon]

Right. I honestly didn't know that you decided to list a group of world class 110 hurdlers and were posting their top 100 meter times. And right, I didn't make the connection that he was running the 100 yard dash. The much simpler conclusion was that you were just being an idiot.

In any event, you busted my ass with that shit.

I think the time has come to...finally!!!!!!!!!.....

you...ok man, you proved yourself, while it bugs the fuck out me to do this....you know your sprinting....nothing else however.
me...ah shucks.

[cantthinkofanything]

I think the time has come to...finally!!!!!!!!!.....

you...ok man, you proved yourself, while it bugs the fuck out me to do this....you know your sprinting....nothing else however.
me...ah shucks.

not exactly...but...whatever...

are you going to post that pic? I need to start planning what to do with the countless hours I waste here each day

[IWantsACuatro]

The former USSR has produced numerous modern day boxing champions whereas the US has slim to none white boxers. How so? It's the issue of time allocation between certain demographics of the population.

China triumphs in gymnastics and other "graceful" sports because that's what the national ideology is about. They also have the means to do so with how much they invest in equipment. Plus, as with training facilities, it's ALOT easier to go outside, draw a line, and run your ass off. All the extra training facilities and whatnot in sprinting is to prevent injury. Running is running, plain and simple.

I'm not going to have a google war with you, but as you might notice, the huge fast white people in football are usually put on defense as linebackers and safeties. Or they usually end up playing baseball.

[RaZon]

not exactly...but...whatever...

are you going to post that pic? I need to start planning what to do with the countless hours I waste here each day

So now I don't have old T&FN mags?

Let's break it down...

I must look fucked
I lie about everything
I don't know shit about music, football or track

Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

Come on man...

Here you are running around with all that...yo mama...bullshit thinking it's what...cute? funny? creative? And I need to prove things....hahaha!!!!!!!

[Wild Cobra]

Did he run a 9.3 or not? The internet has what to do with that

Maybe the 9.3 was down hill...

[RaZon]

Maybe the 9.3 was down hill...

Bristol ran on one of the top 4x1 units in the nation back in his day. He ran for Texas Southern a school that gave/has given the sprint world...

Theo Bush
Charlie Frazier
Clyde Duncan
Jimmy Hines Oly gold
Robert Taylor Oly silver
Homer Jones
Willie Polk
Michael Miller
Ainsly Armstrong
Augustine Olobia...Nigeria
Renaldo Dawson

Right now they have a guy named Philip Riddick who is looking good.

[cantthinkofanything]

let's talk real sports slick...Renaldo Nehemiah...only 4 time winner of The Superstars. Because of his ability to leap and grab the top of the rope wall, he shaved off valuable seconds in the obstacle course which was the last event and usually determined the overall winner.

[RaZon]

let's talk real sports slick...Renaldo Nehemiah...only 4 time winner of The Superstars. Because of his ability to leap and grab the top of the rope wall, he shaved off valuable seconds in the obstacle course which was the last event and usually determined the overall winner.

Sure...

I have forgotten what year it was () when Maryland showed up at the Penn Relays to run the 4x2 and the 4x4. Nehemiah would be anchoring both teams.

In the 4x2 Maryland was way down to LSU with Orlando McDaneil on the anchor leg. McDaneil also a hurdler, future NFL receiver. Nehemiah started running, with each stride he was gaining. The crowd was going bonkers with that ...wooooooooooooooooooooooo. Need I go on? Nehemiah had came from way back to win the 4x2.

Later in the meet....

At the final exchange Villanova with 45.6 guy Tim Dale on anchor has a sold 15 meters on Maryland. Need I go on? Yep, just like in the 4x2 Nehemiah stunned everyone. His split...44.3!

He stills holds the Maryland record in the 110's and 100m.

When the Niners tried him out he ran a hand timed...4.1.

Oh yeah....that 4.1 is a 40 time not a 100 yard or 100m ...ok?

[cantthinkofanything]

Sure...

I have forgotten what year it was () when Maryland showed up at the Penn Relays to run the 4x2 and the 4x4. Nehemiah would be anchoring both teams.

In the 4x2 Maryland was way down to LSU with Orlando McDaneil on the anchor leg. McDaneil also a hurdler, future NFL receiver. Nehemiah started running, which each stride he was gaining. The crowd is going bonkers with that ...wooooooooooooooooooooooo. Need I go on? Nehemiah had came from way back to win the 4x2.

Later in the meet....

At the final exchange Villanova with 45.6 guy Tim Dale on anchor has a sold 15 meters on Maryland. Need I go on? Yep, just like in the 4x2 Nehemiah stunned everyone. His split...44.3!

He stills holds the Maryland record in the 110's and 100m.

When the Niners tried him out he ran a hand timed...4.1.

Me; Let's talk about The Superstars
You: More track stuff
Me: shaking...my head

[RaZon]

Me; Let's talk about The Superstars
You: More track stuff
Me: shaking...my head

ME..how in the hell do you know about Renaldo Nehemiah?

thinking...I'll give him something he knows nothing about to show the dummy just how great the guy was.

[RaZon]

The former USSR has produced numerous modern day boxing champions whereas the US has slim to none white boxers. How so? It's the issue of time allocation between certain demographics of the population.

China triumphs in gymnastics and other "graceful" sports because that's what the national ideology is about. They also have the means to do so with how much they invest in equipment. Plus, as with training facilities, it's ALOT easier to go outside, draw a line, and run your ass off. All the extra training facilities and whatnot in sprinting is to prevent injury. Running is running, plain and simple.

I'm not going to have a google war with you, but as you might notice, the huge fast white people in football are usually put on defense as linebackers and safeties. Or they usually end up playing baseball.

I don't need Google.

When we see anything as overwelming as black speed/quicks and agility it's not about what you are talking about. It's about those unique physical characteristics I mentioned.

All countries have their sprinters. So why is it only the black sprinters run sub 9.90? Why are all the cornerbacks in the NFL black? Why are all the starting running backs black? Why are most the wide receivers black? Why do blacks hold all the sprint records? Why do we see all the age records held by blacks?

Ever see a white guy do this?



That could be...

Billy "White Shoes" Johnson
Brian Mitchell
Nolan Smith
Gale Sayers
Ron Brown
Michael Bates
Cecil Turner
Dante Hall
Travis Williams
Ollie Matson
Bobby Mitchell
etc etc etc and etc.


Where are those white American female sprinters?


Who was the fastest white NFL player? The list of sub10.40/9.5 black NFLers is a mile long.

Black Olympic sprinters in the NFL.

Ollie Matson
Larry Burton
Gerald Tinker
Bob Hayes
Henry Carr
Frank Budd
Ray Norton
Johnny Jones
James Jett
Michael Bates
Ron Brown
Sam Graddy

A white guy doing this?




How about this?




This is a black thing.



Now add...

Eric Dickerson
Jimmy Brown
Walter Payton
Tony Dorsett
Marcus Allen
Emmitt Smith
Edgerrin James
Paul Lowe
Marshall Faulk
Ladainian Tomlinson
O.J.Simpson
Bo Jackson
Adrian Peterson
Chris Johnson
Curtis Martin
Abner Haynes
Timmy Brown
Thurmon Thomas
Reggie Bush
Billy Sims
Mercury Morris
Roger Craig
Brian Westbrook
Mike Garrett
Wilbert Montgomery
Willie Galimore
Dick Bass
Terry Metcalf
Greg Pruitt
Chuck Foreman
Joe "The Jet" Perry
etc etc etc

Keep in mind blacks make up about 14% of America. Take away the women, those under 20 and over 30 and we are talking 3/4% of Americans are giving us all our speed. Amazing!

It all started with this guy. He was an NCAA/AAU 100 champ and the first real speedy/elusive black NFL back.





There he is Claude "Buddy" Young from the early 40's.



1 Charles ParkerUSA 9.61 Claude YoungUSA 9.61 M. LytleUSA 9.64 Perry SamuelsUSA 9.74 Walter NewmanUSA 9.74 James PettitUSA 9.74 Don AndersonUSA 9.78 Eddie ConwellUSA 9.88 Ralph EllisworthUSA 9.88 Bill LundUSA 9.8


All the training in the world won't give you that kind of speed/agility/elusiveness as we saw in those videos. You either have it or you don't. As we see in every sprint/football game blacks have it.

Oh yeah, the fastest white NFLer? John Roderick a legit 9.3 guy out of SMU, he played for the Dolphins. Did nothing.