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Sure looks like wreckage is covering a similar area. Of course, a forest might catch some of it.
A Learjet 35 left a Learjet 35 sized crater?1999 South Dakota Learjet crash
Let's take a look at the remains of a plane which crashed at a far higher speed...supersonic ~768 miles per hour
Wreckage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_So..._Learjet_crash
Amazing.
Thanks for your help proving a 757 crashed outside of Shanksville.
Sure looks like wreckage is covering a similar area. Of course, a forest might catch some of it.
Give it already, you're just embarrassing yourself now.... the scam is up...
T7 B17 Flight 93 CVR Transcript Fdr- pit Voice Redorder- UA 93394
Notice that at exactly 9:41:33 the Warren County ATIS system is being received on radio.....
The trouble is that ATIS does not work above 25000 feet
LINK: http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publi...4/aim0401.htmlATIS CAN TRASMIT AT A MAXIMUM OF 25000 feet AGL
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13950218/T...order-UA-93394
Flight 93 al ude at 9:41:33.....31.000 feet
http://www.nps.gov/flni/historycultu...Study_UA93.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-C...nes_Flight_831
Wow, a DC-8 made a DC-8 sized crater.
Thanks again, dan!
There is no such time listed in the pdf whatsoever.
Another fail, dan.
Damn Chumpy, now your not even trying
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13950218/T...order-UA-93394
http://www.nps.gov/flni/historycultu...Study_UA93.pdf
If that is all you got I'm going to bed...
No such time was listed in the pdf.
If this is all you got, you've basically given up anyway. Email your good friend Jim Fizer for backup.
Your an asshat...why do I even bother....the time is right there in the PDF but once again you're to lazy or too disingenuous to admit your wrong...I leave all the other level headed thinkers who have read this far in this thread with this final video for the night...
If one starts descending from 41,000 ft at "about" 9:39 at a rate of 4,000 feet per minute, it's not entirely unreasonable to accept it could reach an approximate al ude of 26,000 feet at the time it appeared to Warren County ATIS.
You'll need to do better than stealing posts from the Pilots for Truth forum.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/i...ost&p=10803631
More bull from the coward, dan.
You are completely full of dan.
I can't think of a more dishonest person on these boards.
Dan,Originally Posted by Nbadan
Who says I'm hanging my hat on anything? I'm just pointing out that a 40 degree impact angle would effect your calculation....by the way, what kind of impact would a KE 14 times a 'normal impact' (whatever that is) have on an airplane...
I am asking you a direct question about your post, not anyone else's. Since I am not a math expert, just someone who can follow a formula or two, how would a 40 degree impact angle affect the calculation RG posted? Please explain.
It was meant to be demonstrable of crashes with a great disparity in speed/kinetic energy, which it did.
Setting aside the issue of approach angles for a moment:
Now, would you expect similar crash crater/debris patterns from two identical planes hitting the ground at identical angles, but where one was traveling 3-4 times faster than the other?
I think that the pictures I posted already are a reasonable possibility that even at speeds higher than 568mph, your going to have quite a bit of debris, especially larger debris and at a 40 degree angle, that debris is going to be scattered over a much larger area than the pictures trollumpy has posted over and over again....Now, would you expect similar crash crater/debris patterns from two identical planes hitting the ground at identical angles, but where one was traveling 3-4 times faster than the other?
Why would these assumptions be wrong?
Why? I get paid to do that...even if I wanted to spend the time doing the math for you it would roughly lead to an KE over 12 and RG would say well, that that's still blah, blah, blah.....blah, blah, blah....
...there I saved us both a lot of trouble....
Most of the plane was found inside the crater.
I can't help but noticed you didn't bother posting the crash that most closely resembles that of United 93. A lie of omission on your part -- or just ignorance. I'd believe either one.
There were scores of volunteers that helped find debris and body parts that were scattered over a larger area than you probably think since you proved you have no sense of scale whatsoever.
This is why your assumptions are wrong.
Or are you calling them all liars, dan?
This is where dan tries to avoid answering questions at all costs.
lol saving us trouble
Why don't you post it Chumpy? A lie of omission or just ignorance..neither would really surprise me...and while were are at it why don't you post why you think this wreak most closely resembles Flight 93 than any of the wrecks I posted...what makes your wreck so special? Exactly how much debris was recovered?
Time to fess up and quit making up...prove it or STFU...
What do I have to prove to you? Internet troll
Chumpy's game is getting really old, and completely ruining this forum...it used to be kinda funny now its just sad really...68,000 posts and nobody will ever remember a single post he ever made....the guy is on 24-7.....can you imagine a guy who sits on a forum 24-7...you have to ask yourself...what motivates a guy to post on an internet forum 24-7....sad really...
Surely in your vast research, you have found studied the crash in question extensively since it is quite similar to United 93.
I'm keen to see if you know about it.
Rest assured I do.
That you know Jim Fetzer, for starters.
Nothing to prove there....did you write Jim?
Ah, post count smack.
More stalling from dan.
Your game is getting really old, and completely ruining this forum.
If nobody remembers any of my posts, it couldn't possibly ruin anything.
I've seen many crash sites similar to United 93..posted some here...so what?
Indeed I did.
I did it and I told other posters about it before you bragged about knowing him, in fact.
He posted the exchange in this very thread.
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