Using the email address at the top of this page?
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/fetzerexpandedx.htm
I have only ever posted under my own name. Here is our email exchange:
James Fetzer
4:07 PM (16 hours ago)
to [Nbadan]
Yes, it is. Probably not a great idea, since almost everyone there seems to have their minds made up. I wanted to share some of our major discoveries, but I don't have a lot to work with.
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:59 PM, [Nbadan] wrote:
There is a Jim Fetzer account on this message board whose owner is discussing 9/11 in the political forum and citing your articles. I just wanted to verify if this is you and if it is you, thank you for your participation.
Thank you for your attention.
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Since Nbadan had already posted parts of my Wikipedia entry, which had sketched my views about 9/11, I don't understand why there was ever any justification for demanding a "narrative", which Chumpy claims that I have never provided. I have said what I take to be the case there, namely, as Nbada quotes in post #9:
Fetzer supports the assertion that elements within the U.S. federal government orchestrated the September 11, 2001 attacks for political and economic gain and that World Trade Center One and Two were destroyed using a novel form of controlled demolition from the top down, while World Trade Center Seven was brought down by a conventional controlled demolition from the bottom.
I offered links to other articles in which I lay out my "narrative", including:
"Thinking about 'Conspiracy Theories': 9/11 and JFK"
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/fetzerexpandedx.htm
“Peeling the 9/11 Onion: Layers of Plots within Plots”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08...-within-plots/
“9/11 and the Neo-Con Agenda”
http://www.amfirstbooks.com/IntroPag...on_Agenda.html
“Is 9/11 Research ‘anti-Semitic’?”
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Is-...090615-95.html
where I even republished "9/11 and the Neo-Con Agenda" beginning with post #64, for those who want to read it here without so much as pressing a link to visit where it appeared in 2008. A more complete analysis of the who and the why may be found in "Peeling the 9/11 Onion: Layers of Plots within Plots" (with Preston James), which I also linked above.
I have concluded that this demand for a "narrative" is simply a rhetorical tactic, since Chumpy continues to insist that I have not given one when a short version appears in post #9, a mid-length version begins at post #64, and a longer version can be found in "Peeling the 9/11 Onion". Since you now know my "narrative", let's focus on Shanksville as a nice "test case".
Let me also observe that those who have complained about my citing articles and providing links ignore that the vast majority are to articles I have written in which I marshal the relevant evidence and draw appropriate conclusions, where 9/11 is sufficiently complex that getting it right can be a daunting task. When I cite my articles, I am identifying where you can find more.
In this case, on Flight 93, I lay out some of the basic evidence in "More Proof of 9/11 Duplicity", http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07...911-duplicity/ including the following, which is as good a place to start as any and there is a lot to discuss, including the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui and research by Pilots for 9/11 Truth, but where this works as a start:
(3) Flight 93 crash site in Shanksville
(a) A Boeing 757 weighs about 100 tons with a wingspan of about 125′ and a tail that stands 44′ above the ground. It would have been overwhelmingly larger than the trucks in this photograph, where the alleged crater from the crash was situated. Compare this crash site with those from bona fide crash sites to begin to appreciate the enormity of the deception involved. “This is the most errie thing”, the coroner observed at the scene. “I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop.”
(b) The reporter for FOX News had similar observations, which I have also verified from the taped interview:
FOX News reporter: It looks like there’s nothing there, except for a hole in the ground.
Photographer Chris Konicki: Ah, basically that’s right. The only thing you can see from where we where, ah, was a big gouge in the earth and some broken trees. We could see some people working, walking around in the area, but from where we could see it, there wasn’t much left.
Reporter: Any large pieces of debris at all?
Konicki: Na, there was nothing, nothing that you could distinguish that a plane had crashed there.
Reporter: Smoke? Fire?
Konicki: Nothing. It was absolutely quite. It was, uh, actually very quiet. Um, nothing going on down there. No smoke. No fire. Just a couple of people walking around. They looked like part of the NTSB crew walking around, looking at the pieces…” – FOX (09/11/01)
(c) An alleged eyewitness, Val McClatchey, who resides less than two miles from the purported crash site, claims to have taken a photo showing a plume of smoke from the crash site. Like the smoke coming from the series of dumpsters at the Pentagon, alas, there are good reasons to suspect that her photo was faked. The plume resembles those from detonation explosions more than it does fires from crash sites–and estimates of the location of the plume place it over a pond, which suggests that this is yet another fake photograph in the 9/11 inventory. Indeed, there are many good reasons to suspect that 9/11 was staged with Hollywood-style special effects.
Last edited by Jim Fetzer; 05-10-2012 at 09:17 AM.
Jim,
Can you please elaborate on how Silverstein became part of this equation?
How did he know in advance about 9/11 and how do you think he went about setting explosives up in the buildings? WTC7 in particular....
Thanks
Jim,
Can you please elaborate on how Silverstein became part of this equation?
How did he know in advance about 9/11 and how do you think he went about setting explosives up in the buildings? WTC7 in particular....
Thanks
You wrote him, he responded and you still don't think it's him?
That explains a lot.
OK, compare it to a bona fide crash site where the plane hit the ground at a steep angle over 500 mph.Flight 93 crash site in Shanksville
(a) A Boeing 757 weighs about 100 tons with a wingspan of about 125′ and a tail that stands 44′ above the ground. It would have been overwhelmingly larger than the trucks in this photograph, where the alleged crater from the crash was situated. Compare this crash site with those from bona fide crash sites to begin to appreciate the enormity of the deception involved.
I'll wait for your links to those reports.
In all your investigation of similar crashes, how much large debris and blood would you expect to see? Again, give specific examples.“This is the most errie thing”, the coroner observed at the scene. “I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop.”
(b) The reporter for FOX News had similar observations, which I have also verified from the taped interview:
FOX News reporter: It looks like there’s nothing there, except for a hole in the ground.
Photographer Chris Konicki: Ah, basically that’s right. The only thing you can see from where we where, ah, was a big gouge in the earth and some broken trees. We could see some people working, walking around in the area, but from where we could see it, there wasn’t much left.
Reporter: Any large pieces of debris at all?
Konicki: Na, there was nothing, nothing that you could distinguish that a plane had crashed there.
Reporter: Smoke? Fire?
Konicki: Nothing. It was absolutely quite. It was, uh, actually very quiet. Um, nothing going on down there. No smoke. No fire. Just a couple of people walking around. They looked like part of the NTSB crew walking around, looking at the pieces…” – FOX (09/11/01)
You never addressed this and I suppose you never will:(c) An alleged eyewitness, Val McClatchey, who resides less than two miles from the purported crash site, claims to have taken a photo showing a plume of smoke from the crash site. Like the smoke coming from the series of dumpsters at the Pentagon, alas, there are good reasons to suspect that her photo was faked. The plume resembles those from detonation explosions more than it does fires from crash sites–and estimates of the location of the plume place it over a pond, which suggests that this is yet another fake photograph in the 9/11 inventory. Indeed, there are many good reasons to suspect that 9/11 was staged with Hollywood-style special effects.
Also, you never admitted that the Shanksville site is a reclaimed strip mine. If you can't even admit you got a simple fact wrong, you aren't serious about the truth.
I guess Jim realized that this sub forum on a basketball message board is out of his league?
Disappointing, to be honest.
I notice the brackets. If this wasn't you, dan -- what was his response to you?
Maybe Fetzer was dismayed at his crass and craven abandonment at the hands of Nbadan, his Spurstalk liaison.
(Internet celebrity crush gone wrong, ST * politics * edition?)
I know James Fetzer.....he is no Jim Fetzer..
How do you know him?
Your an ass hat...the crater pictures were from news reports on 9/11...the geological survey matches the dark scare perfectly...your gonna have to do better than that...That "crater" your crappy YouTube points out is nowhere close in size or position to the actual crash site. I need to remind you idiots that this was a strip mine and it hadn't been fully filled back in by 1994, when the aerial photo was taken
No, you didn't even look at the pictures -- otherwise you'd realize just how stupid you look right now.
Now, how do you know Jim Fetzer?
Looked at the pictures....did you look at the video of the smoking crater on 9/11...apparently not...
Yes. it's nowhere near the size or position of your "dark scare" -- look again.
And how do you know Jim Fetzer?
sure it is....even the wing scar marks are there...but not in your edited picture...
lol you didn't even look.
So how do you know Jim Fetzer?
Sure I did...so what? You didn't prove the video is misleading..
Sure I did.
I know you would never admit to being wrong, so tell us how you know Jim Fetzer.
lol at you thinking this is James Fizer. We bust out laughing everytime you imply it's James Fitzer....what an asshat..
Why did you spell his name wrong twice?
It's Jim Fetzer.
How do you know Jim Fetzer? I'm interested to know.
Who is ”we”
dan, James Fizer and James Fitzer.
««« busting out laughing
Let's clear up this crash site thing once and for all, dan.
Download this picture, put it in mspaint and draw in where you think the crater photographed on 9/11 is.
You can then post it to imgur and show us all the results.
Give us the truth.
This thread is priceless.
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