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    Seriously, does anyone else see if the obamacare or the healthcare industry as we know it now charging by the pound in the near future. God bless
    Absolutely. In fact it's already started. My employer started a program just last year where you can volunteer for a biometric screening and qualify for discounts on your insurance premiums based on your health.

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    I've mentioned a junk food tax a couple of times on this board as something that could be used to help with healthcare costs. (tax junk food and redistribute revenues to taxpayers via HSA accounts) So I'm with you on that one. Another thing the government could do is restrict food stamps to prohibit them being used to purchase junk food/soda/candy.

    I can't go along with criminalizing obesity though. The results of criminalizing drugs are underwhelming, I don't see why criminalizing being fat would turn out any better.
    what would be the parameters to determine what foods fall into the junk food category?

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    superjumbosized triple bacon cheeseburger combo meal = junk food

    produce from grocery store = not junk food

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    superjumbosized triple bacon cheeseburger combo meal = junk food

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    BTW, it is actually better to eat 3-4 times a day than 1-2, but eat smaller portions. If you only eat 1-2 times a day but have really big meals, your metabolism is slower than if you eat more often but are spreading the calories out throughout the day. It's easier to ac ulate undesirable body fat from only eating 1-2 X a day because your body will raid its own lean muscle mass for energy more often than if you spread your meals out.
    Well, thanks for pointing that out without being a . Seriously.

    Its been a lifestyle of mine since I can remember. I eat once or twice. My job does not require serious physical labor so I have always rationalized it that way.

    Besides, I just dont like to waste time doing things I dont want to do. Such as eating or sleeping. Both are needs but I hate doing both as I see them as time sinks I could spend doing something else I enjoy.

    I dont expect others to live like me, and if you are correct about it being healthier to eat more often but less in portion, then obviously my way isnt even good for you to begin with. But it sickens me to see fat people wonder why they are fat when theyre the first out the door for lunch, complain when dinner isnt ready and hover around the fridge all the time or cant pass a bowl of candy without gorging themselves.

    Example:

    My wife keeps candy in the house in bowls upstairs and downstairs. It isnt for us, neither of us eat candy on anything that could be considered a regular basis. Its for those we entertain at the house. We cant keep the bowls full, always running empty because (like I said) no one I know has the self control to ignore them. I have 2 family members and 2 friends over and our entire supply of candy that lasted us for 3 months is gone in less than 3 hours.

    Its disgusting because every single person, tall, short, fat or skinny, all say the same thing. "Man, these things are addicting!" No theyre not, you just have no self control. I can have one bite size Twix or Snickers and never eat another for weeks. These gluttons make you think you ed up by making them the bite size pieces...might have been more effective to just buy the full size bars so they could jam more of it in their fat mouths.

    Same thing when going out to dinner. They have to order appetizers, entree, 3 sodas/pops and a dessert. While my wife and I always have to get a doggy bag to take home what we ordered.

    Its just weird to me. I eat to live, I do not live to eat. Exact opposite of nearly everyone I know, really. My body will tell me when to eat, then I eat until I am full, nothing beyond that. Just seems like common sense to me.

    I mean, you dont go to the bathroom and sit down anticipating having to take a , do you? "Oh man, its about that time, I should go get ready to take a ." No, thats stupid. Your body tells you, some people are right as rain in schedule, you have to go to the bathroom. Same with eating.

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    superjumbosized triple bacon cheeseburger combo meal = junk food

    produce from grocery store = not junk food
    A triple bacon cheeseburger contains most of your basic food groups, and if you add lettuce, tomato and onions, you've just added produce from the grocery store.

    If you subs ute apples for french fries should a tax still apply?

    What about diet soda?

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    A triple bacon cheeseburger contains most of your basic food groups, and if you add lettuce, tomato and onions, you've just added produce from the grocery store.

    If you subs ute apples for french fries should a tax still apply?

    What about diet soda?
    Yes.

    Not junk food.

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    I have a feeling my bar tab's about to go up.

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    Because there's not enough taxes on booze as it is.

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    yes as in the tax would still apply? Why?

    Exactly which part of the burger is junk?
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    Because there's not enough taxes on booze as it is.
    Order a jack and regular coke and feel the pain of the double junk tax.

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    A triple bacon cheeseburger contains most of your basic food groups, and if you add lettuce, tomato and onions, you've just added produce from the grocery store.

    If you subs ute apples for french fries should a tax still apply?

    What about diet soda?
    the industurial cheese-like substance is junk

    the pink-slimed meat-like substance is junk

    the heavily processed bread-like bun is junk

    the mayo and mus and ketchup are processed, sweetened junk

    the lettuce, pickle, onion, tomato are OK, so have a salad even more veg rather than cheeseburger.

    diet soda is chemical junk.

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    yes as in the tax would still apply? Why?

    Exactly which part of the burger is junk?
    Yes, for the same reasons why ordering an iced tea instead of a soda won't keep the burger from making you fat.

    The part that you eat.

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    the industurial cheese-like substance is junk

    the pink-slimed meat-like substance is junk

    the heavily processed bread-like bun is junk

    the mayo and mus and ketchup are processed, sweetened junk.

    diet soda is chemical junk.
    should all those items be slapped with a junk food tax?

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    The part that you eat.
    So you want to tax bread, beef, pork, and cheese.

    Neat.

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    your call.

    A killer problem is defining what is junk food.

    I don't think junk food tax is workable. BigFood will certainly kill it.

    Nearly everything in a grocery store, and EVERYTHING in a convenience store, is dead (packaged for shelf-life, not health), processed, chemically saturated corporate crap.

    Think that's a radical position? Then you have been co-opted, hypnotized into the BigFood/USDA/FDA for-profit food world.

    Fruit and veg, even if their nutrient value has deteriorated by intensive corporate agriculture on depleted soil and polluted water, is much superior to anything in packages.

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    So you want to tax bread, beef, pork, and cheese.
    When used in combination to make a 1,000 calorie sandwich with 50 grams of fat, yes I do.

    Neat.
    Glad you like it.

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    A killer problem is defining what is junk food.

    I don't think junk food tax is workable.
    I don't think it is either.

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    When used in combination to make a 1,000 calorie sandwich with 50 grams of fat, yes I do.
    So a sandwich with 999 calories and 49 grams of fat is exempt in your plan.

    neato.

    Glad you like it.
    good stuff.

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    So a sandwich with 999 calories and 49 grams of fat is exempt in your plan.

    neato.
    No.

    good stuff.
    Thank you for a very intelligent and thought provoking conversation.

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    K, then what's the cut off?

    Thank you for a very intelligent and thought provoking conversation.
    I don't think you thought your junk food tax plan out very far past the word ”junk”

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    This approach seemed to work out. TGI Friday's Smaller Portions.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=3015921&page=1

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    This approach seemed to work out. TGI Friday's Smaller Portions.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=3015921&page=1
    that indirectly reminded me of this:


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    K, then what's the cut off?



    I don't think you thought your junk food tax plan out very far past the word ”junk”
    Its not really his place to determine. One would hope that doctors, die ians and other relevant parties would be consulted and have a hand in making such determinations.

    I would contend that everything on this list falls in the tax category. http://www.acaloriecounter.com/fast-food.php

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