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    report comparing per-student spending found charter schools “substantially” outspending neighboring traditional public schools — challenging the claim that charters achieve higher performance with less money.

    charter networks in New York and Texas that spent at least 30 percent more per pupil than traditional public schools with similar student populations.

    study included debt repayment for bonds that build or renovate facilities in its Texas calculations of total school district revenue per pupil. And there, he said, charter schools like KIPP still outspent district schools by thousands of dollars per pupil.

    charters like KIPP, which employ “no excuses” strategies, are raising student outcomes but these “marginal increases” could come with significant costs.

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/edu...ls-3554405.php

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    So the VRWC/ALEC push to destroy public schools by suckering people into for-profit charter schools as "cheaper and more effective" is just another lie.

    I suppose the charter schools will say they cost more so they will ask for (more) taxpayer dollars, which was the objective from the beginning.

    Does anybody really think Murdoch is getting into education as a philanthropic effort?

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...415237430.html

    Murdoch has taken a sudden interest in the plight of poor American school children languishing in substandard schools, which he says have lower standards than "American Idol." Of course, Murdoch's interest in public schools seems mostly because of the money to be made there. He's said that he sees the American education sector as a $500 billion market that's largely been untapped by companies like his. News Corp. ventured into this world last year by purchasing the ed tech company Wireless Generation and hiring former New York City schools chancellor Joel Klein.

    http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2011...world-countrys

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    "Christian" charter schools are probably more effective in dumbing down the students in science and math while indoctrinating them with "Christian" Biblical/creationism/AGW-denial bullshit.

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    you also forget these charter schools charge excess fees, while robbing the govt for school funding, while the public schools get shit whatever is left of the pie...oh yeh those private schools usually belong to some religious groups/organizations that operate on land that pay shit all for taxes/rates, let alone gettin free land on startups in rich neighborhoods then benefiting from it when they sell the property.....

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    Because charters receive less state funding, several rely on philanthropic organizations and private donations.

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    So BD who thinks all rich people's money should go to benefitting the poor is against giving poor kids an actual education because it will cost too much for the taxpayers?

    classic mcgruber

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    Most advocates of charter schools here don't care about giving kids a "better" education - it's about sticking it to any public institution.

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    DMX: Like who? This is one of the biggest things I vote on. I honestly think the libs backing the teacher union over kid's future. That was most noticable when obama stopped the voucher system that sent dc kids to the school he is sending his daughters to. In DC's situation it is cheaper per student on the tax payers for a voucher. Then again if libs actually better people's live's they'll lose voting blocs

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    You don't have to choose between backing a union or the future of children. You can do both.

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    I agree DMX. I just don't think the libs, and Obama, does.

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    So BD who thinks all rich people's money should go to benefitting the poor is against giving poor kids an actual education because it will cost too much for the taxpayers?
    I think that? I said that? link?

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    DMX: Like who? This is one of the biggest things I vote on. I honestly think the libs backing the teacher union over kid's future. That was most noticable when obama stopped the voucher system that sent dc kids to the school he is sending his daughters to. In DC's situation it is cheaper per student on the tax payers for a voucher. Then again if libs actually better people's live's they'll lose voting blocs
    Both Republican and Democrats have been walking away from voucher-based "reforms" prior to this election cycle. It's a branding move, essentially. Race To The Top accomplishes the same thing (privatization of public institutions), and has the same goals as the voucher system.
    Obama has been the charter school movement's best friend, as are Democrats For Education Reform.

    I'm sure we'll see lots of noise about the supposed differences between the 2 parties regarding education policy since this is an election year, but the corporate education reform agenda is very much a neoliberal (markets uber alles) Washington-consensus affair. Case in point:

    Striking new tone, Chris Christie says education reform is led by GOP

    Chris Christie, the Republican governor of New Jersey, said Thursday that Republican politicians are leading the way for better educational opportunities for poor and minority children through voucher programs for private schools, while Democrats passively stand by or obstruct their efforts. The partisan framing of his education agenda is a bit of a departure from Christie's earlier praise of President Barack Obama's education reforms, and may hint at how the issue will play out in the presidential campaign.
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    Republican politicians are leading the way for better educational opportunities for poor and minority children through voucher programs for private schools

    Repugs give a shit about poor/minority kids' education?

    It's the ALEX/VRWC strategy to give taxpayer taxes to for-profit, non-unionized schools, no matter what the educational effectiveness is. Always follow the money and politics.

    Repugs give a shit about poor/minority kids' education?

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    I know this didn't get past your confirmation bias filter the first time I posted it, so I'll take another run at it.
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    Gates and his rich bitch are also pushing vaccines world-wide. Kid screwed up by their vaccines are just "the cost of doing business".

    what's ALEX?

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    "alex/vrwc"

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    Gates and his rich bitch are also pushing vaccines world-wide. Kid screwed up by their vacciens are just "the cost of doing business".

    what's ALEX?
    Where did they say that? Link plz.

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    WTF is ALEX?

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    btw..there are structural reasons behind the charter school/public school funding levels. Care to figure that out or are you just going to bask in the ignorance of your bias?

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    You tell me. You wrote it, bot.

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    Where did they say that? Link plz.
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    Republican politicians are leading the way for better educational opportunities for poor and minority children through voucher programs for private schools

    Repugs give a shit about poor/minority kids' education?

    It's the ALEX/VRWC strategy to give taxpayer taxes to for-profit, non-unionized schools, no matter what the educational effectiveness is. Always follow the money and politics.

    Repugs give a shit about poor/minority kids' education?

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    Do your own research

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    Yeah, you're about at his level of discourse and debate. :facepalm:

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    Oh. I can't keep up with your acronyms, much less the misspelled ones.

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    you can't keep up, period. gfy

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    you can't think in a non-linear manner. gfy

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