lol boutons.
lol boutons.
the Repugs have laid out their social and budget plans, all will prove to be a disaster for the 99%
you guys have nothing, GFY
Ok.
Seal Team 6 killed Osama bin Laden after an intelligence structure, Barack Obama spent his campaign deriding, vilifying, and demonizing, located him.
Per a timetable established and set by his predecessor.
After fucking up just about every international relationship we have in the region.
@ this delusional claim.
Sonia "La Raza" Sotemayor and Elena "LGBT" Kagan are the "ideological middle?"
A claim only made by the current administration and with which a couple of hundred thousand illegal Florida voters might take issue.
Why didn't he veto the reauthorization, at the end of 2011, instead? This president has set a bad precedent of selective enforcement of the law.
Could bring them down faster by getting of the throat of producers.
Yep, he did that.
Weak sauce for a President that "evolved" from being opposed to same sex marriage to merely supporting "fair treatment" without actually saying he supports same sex marriage.
Purely political equivocation.
A piece of shit law that won't survive the year.
I'll give you that...well, except for the majority of the list (actually, all but ACA and NDAA [which you obviously didn't want reauthorized]) which isn't legislation at all.
No, Obama has lost the confidence of Congress. He was skunked on his last budget proposal in both houses. So, Obama prefers to act by fiat. You can call it legislation, if you want, but, Congress hasn't signed off on much of what Obama has been doing for the past 4 years...Czars and recess appointments (during session) instead of appointments with the advice and consent of the Senate...Executive Orders...those have been the Obama way.
God, don't we all know. But, there's a Hope this will Change this November.
I sure hope I have some change left when he's done.
I miss the 1/2 hr News hour...
/Thread?
I'm an Obama supporter, but based on his track record I would say he does not deserve another four years. However, I don't believe Mitt Romney deserves a first four years. I'm not sure the country could withstand another four years of conservative rule. Another round of tax cuts and deregulation (especially of the financial sector) would be catastrophic.
My biggest beef with Obama has been his determination to compromise. He squandered two years of super majorities in Congress. The health care fiasco is the perfect example. We had a once in a lifetime opportunity to implement a single payer system, and they instead opted for a conservative plan, that Republicans went on to blast anyway. I realize it would have been extremely difficult (maybe impossible) to pass single payer, but that should have been where the debate started. Perhaps then the compromise would have been the public option, and not the Republican based plan we have now, which they still rail against.
On defense, I'm generally more of a hawk, and I approve of the expanded use of drones in the battle field. I am not a fan of Obama's continued use of Patriot Act policies that result in spying on citizens. The signing of the NDAA is one of his biggest sins in my eyes.
His determination to compromise hurt him on the stimulus package as well. Most economists say it was to small, and now we know that some of his advisers told him it was to small. There was to much focus on tax cuts in the package, and not enough infrastructure spending. Again, another opportunity was wasted, as we could have killed two birds with one stone by helping the economy and rebuild our decrepit infrastructure.
I haven't been happy with everything Obama has done, or the fact that he has morphed into Bush-lite. That does not mean I am willing to vote for a super Bush.
Mercos...
If you like socialism/communism so much, why not move to a different country?
Does Romney deserve 4 years?
Which of the two choices do you think is more likely to sign into law, more mandatory spending programs? If you don't know or are uncertain of the differences between discretionary spending and mandatory spending, look it up before you answer.
What if that isn't my criteria for making my choice?
one hell of a reply!Seal Team 6 killed Osama bin Laden after an intelligence structure, Barack Obama spent his campaign deriding, vilifying, and demonizing, located him.
Per a timetable established and set by his predecessor.
After fucking up just about every international relationship we have in the region.
Sonia "La Raza" Sotemayor and Elena "LGBT" Kagan are the "ideological middle?"
A claim only made by the current administration and with which a couple of hundred thousand illegal Florida voters might take issue.
Why didn't he veto the reauthorization, at the end of 2011, instead? This president has set a bad precedent of selective enforcement of the law.
Could bring them down faster by getting of the throat of producers.
Yep, he did that.
Weak sauce for a President that "evolved" from being opposed to same sex marriage to merely supporting "fair treatment" without actually saying he supports same sex marriage.
Purely political equivocation.
A piece of shit law that won't survive the year.
I'll give you that...well, except for the majority of the list (actually, all but ACA and NDAA [which you obviously didn't want reauthorized]) which isn't legislation at all.
No, Obama has lost the confidence of Congress. He was skunked on his last budget proposal in both houses. So, Obama prefers to act by fiat. You can call it legislation, if you want, but, Congress hasn't signed off on much of what Obama has been doing for the past 4 years...Czars and recess appointments (during session) instead of appointments with the advice and consent of the Senate...Executive Orders...those have been the Obama way.
God, don't we all know. But, there's a Hope this will Change this November.
Nothing in my post suggested I was a fan of communism, but I understand your confusion given the way the term is thrown about these days and the general lack of understanding as to what it actually is. As for socialism, we already live in a partially socialist country, and have since at least the 1930s. That is not going to change, regardless of how much the right wing cries about it.
What?
You don't care if a president signs more mandatory spending into law?
Wow...
Just wow...
We live with far too much socialism.
I have no problems with long care support of the elderly and handicapped. We have too many handouts for those who can work. I have no problem with "safety net" programs, but they are abused and lack responsible supervision.
This is absolutely not acceptable. This is another social program that has proven to be a disaster in other places.
We simply are running out of tax payers. Just where the fuck will this money come from?
It's obvious we disagree on the broader definitions of Communism and Socialism, so I'm not going to bother. The bottom line of my beliefs is we all need to be self reliant to our best possible degree. For every slacker living off of other peoples money, there is less of a working persons own wealth to be used for better economic activities.
Agree 100%... The vote seems to be right-lite, or right... I was hoping Romney would move more towards the center, but hasn't happened either, and he's just going with the right rhetoric... tbh, don't think I'll be voting this time around. Can't willingly support either candidate.
Obama being the first POTUS to oversee such heinous acts.
I agree that our safety net programs have been abused, and need restructuring. I would also argue that many people now need the safety net because of decisions made in the private sector, namely the outsourcing of decent paying low skill jobs to third world countries. A little outsourcing can be good for the economy, due to the cheaper goods it creates. This was to much of a good thing though, and you can see the fallout in stagnant wages over the past few decades. Those stagnant wages are deadly when the cost of food, fuel, and medical care have continued going up.
In regards to the single payer system, we are simply worlds apart. I do not view private medical insurance as a legitimate business. It is a needless middle man, providing a service that the government could do for much cheaper.
I do believe in capitalism, and would not want to change our system into a purely socialistic society. However, there are some things better left to the government in my opinion. I would not want the police, or fire department run by the private sector. I feel the same way about medical insurance.
I think Obama deserves 20 years to life for the crimes being committed in his administration.
Oh, wait, that wasn't the question, was it?
No. Obama doesn't deserve 4 more years. I'm not certain I want him finishing the last 7 months. Perhaps he'll resign and let "Slow" Joe Biden bumble around until we can get adults back in the White House. At this point, however, I would settle for a LBJ moment when he announces to the country, "I will not seek and I will not accept my party's nomination for President of the United States."
It is absolutely delicious how the Clinton camp is abandoning Barry in the time of his greatest need.
Sure would be a great thread to start!
Agreed.
Obama had such a bad week that he's at 50% approval in today's Gallup Tracking Poll!
http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx
sorry about the poptech relationship.
at least you've moved on!
Governor in a state where the governor is little more than a figurehead, a job he got because of his daddy's political connections.
A reserve officer, dodging Vietnam using daddy's political connections. He was in juuuust long enough.
A solid C student, in a college he got into because of his daddy's political connections.
Not exactly a paragon of self-motivated leadership.
That is your idol?
I guess he wasn't poor, so he didn't make the bad decision about who his parents were.
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra:
"it is possible that warming for windmills vs. CO2 is about equal, and that the windmills will change the wind/climate in ways worse than CO2 ever could."
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I might buy into that, if you would hold Bush accountable for the dead US soldiers' blood on his hands due to his and his administration's gross negligence/incompetence.
You aren't going to hold any Republican responsible for that are you?
Bingo.
It isn't Romney so much I am worried about, although he is obviously willing to literally say anything or do anything to get elected, but the tea party fucktards and other right-wing extremists driving the bus getting into a Republican administration.
We seem to be faced with a choice of right-lite or crazy-right.
THAT is why anyone who isn't crazy, should hold their nose, and keep people like Bachmann and Santorum as far as possible from cabinet posts and judgeships.
Not My idol at all. I am only pointing out the fact, that Obama had effectively no executive experience, and bush did, before becoming president.
Do you disagree with that?
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