the Repugs have laid out their social and budget plans, all will prove to be a disaster for the 99%
you guys have nothing, GFY
Purely political equivocation.
No, Obama has lost the confidence of Congress. He was skunked on his last budget proposal in both houses. So, Obama prefers to act by fiat. You can call it legislation, if you want, but, Congress hasn't signed off on much of what Obama has been doing for the past 4 years...Czars and recess appointments (during session) instead of appointments with the advice and consent of the Senate...Executive Orders...those have been the Obama way.
I miss the 1/2 hr News hour...
I'm an Obama supporter, but based on his track record I would say he does not deserve another four years. However, I don't believe Mitt Romney deserves a first four years. I'm not sure the country could withstand another four years of conservative rule. Another round of tax cuts and deregulation (especially of the financial sector) would be catastrophic.
My biggest beef with Obama has been his determination to compromise. He squandered two years of super majorities in Congress. The health care fiasco is the perfect example. We had a once in a lifetime opportunity to implement a single payer system, and they instead opted for a conservative plan, that Republicans went on to blast anyway. I realize it would have been extremely difficult (maybe impossible) to pass single payer, but that should have been where the debate started. Perhaps then the compromise would have been the public option, and not the Republican based plan we have now, which they still rail against.
On defense, I'm generally more of a hawk, and I approve of the expanded use of drones in the battle field. I am not a fan of Obama's continued use of Patriot Act policies that result in spying on citizens. The signing of the NDAA is one of his biggest sins in my eyes.
His determination to compromise hurt him on the stimulus package as well. Most economists say it was to small, and now we know that some of his advisers told him it was to small. There was to much focus on tax cuts in the package, and not enough infrastructure spending. Again, another opportunity was wasted, as we could have killed two birds with one stone by helping the economy and rebuild our decrepit infrastructure.
I haven't been happy with everything Obama has done, or the fact that he has morphed into Bush-lite. That does not mean I am willing to vote for a super Bush.
If you like socialism/communism so much, why not move to a different country?
I have no problems with long care support of the elderly and handicapped. We have too many handouts for those who can work. I have no problem with "safety net" programs, but they are abused and lack responsible supervision.
We simply are running out of tax payers. Just where the fuck will this money come from?
It's obvious we disagree on the broader definitions of Communism and Socialism, so I'm not going to bother. The bottom line of my beliefs is we all need to be self reliant to our best possible degree. For every slacker living off of other peoples money, there is less of a working persons own wealth to be used for better economic activities.
I agree that our safety net programs have been abused, and need restructuring. I would also argue that many people now need the safety net because of decisions made in the private sector, namely the outsourcing of decent paying low skill jobs to third world countries. A little outsourcing can be good for the economy, due to the cheaper goods it creates. This was to much of a good thing though, and you can see the fallout in stagnant wages over the past few decades. Those stagnant wages are deadly when the cost of food, fuel, and medical care have continued going up.
In regards to the single payer system, we are simply worlds apart. I do not view private medical insurance as a legitimate business. It is a needless middle man, providing a service that the government could do for much cheaper.
I do believe in capitalism, and would not want to change our system into a purely socialistic society. However, there are some things better left to the government in my opinion. I would not want the police, or fire department run by the private sector. I feel the same way about medical insurance.
I think Obama deserves 20 years to life for the crimes being committed in his administration.
Oh, wait, that wasn't the question, was it?
No. Obama doesn't deserve 4 more years. I'm not certain I want him finishing the last 7 months. Perhaps he'll resign and let "Slow" Joe Biden bumble around until we can get adults back in the White House. At this point, however, I would settle for a LBJ moment when he announces to the country, "I will not seek and I will not accept my party's nomination for President of the United States."
It is absolutely delicious how the Clinton camp is abandoning Barry in the time of his greatest need.
A reserve officer, dodging Vietnam using daddy's political connections. He was in juuuust long enough.
A solid C student, in a college he got into because of his daddy's political connections.
Not exactly a paragon of self-motivated leadership.
That is your idol?
I guess he wasn't poor, so he didn't make the bad decision about who his parents were.
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra:
"it is possible that warming for windmills vs. CO2 is about equal, and that the windmills will change the wind/climate in ways worse than CO2 ever could."
You aren't going to hold any Republican responsible for that are you?
It isn't Romney so much I am worried about, although he is obviously willing to literally say anything or do anything to get elected, but the tea party fucktards and other right-wing extremists driving the bus getting into a Republican administration.
We seem to be faced with a choice of right-lite or crazy-right.
THAT is why anyone who isn't crazy, should hold their nose, and keep people like Bachmann and Santorum as far as possible from cabinet posts and judgeships.
Do you disagree with that?
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