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    Bruce Almighty Bruno's Avatar
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    Born: May 15, 1987
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    This guy is everything the Spurs want Bonner to be-- a stretch 4 who is a serious 3 pt threat & a very good rebounder. Some estimates have put his asking price at 8 mil a year, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone offered more. I hope the Spurs explore every option possible to land him, including sign & trades. The Bucks are one team that might actually be interested in a guy like Splitter and if they think they're going to lose Ilyasova anyway, might be interested in a Splitter & Bonner combo plus other parts or future draft picks in exchange for him and a young project big like Larry Sanders or Ekpe Udoh. Outside chance at best, but definitely worth a try.

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    I can see the Bucks at least listen to such a S&T offer.
    and I do like Ilyasova. but would it be a good idea to bring in him and bring back Diaw? and therefore sacrifice Splitter? that's to much of downsizing, especially as we don't know how many minutes Tim can take next season.

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    The Great Unknown yavozerb's Avatar
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    Ersan not in the cards this offseason for the spurs...too much $, move on to more realistic options..
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    Ersan not in the cards this offseason for the spurs...too much $, move on to more realistic options..
    Have to agree. Earlier this year he said that he would go wherever paid him the most. Chances are that won't be the Spurs. And the sign and trade offers we could put forth could be easily matched by half the league, unless they were really high on Splitter.

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    No we need athleticism not more jump shooting bigs.
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    hey green goblin actor

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    hey green goblin actor




    The resemblance doesn't exactly jump out at me.

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    YOU JUST GOT THE BUISNESS SamoanTD's Avatar
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    The resemblance doesn't exactly jump out at me.
    I think he meant his son in the movie.

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    Characterizing Ilyasova as a jump shooting big is inaccurate in my opinion. Compare his shot selection with those of other successful three point shooters:

    Stephen Curry
    Total shot attempts: 296
    Shots attempted from 3 pt territory: 121
    Shots attempted from 2 pt territory: 175

    Ray Allen
    Total shot attempts: 493
    Shots attempted from 3: 234
    shots attempted from 2: 259

    Matt Bonner
    Total shot attempts: 350
    from 3: 250
    from 2: 100

    Ilyasova
    Total attempts: 597
    from 3: 112
    from 2: 485

    If you look at Ilyasova's numbers, you see that about 19% of his shots are from 3 pt range. Bonner is a huge contrast to Ilyasova: about 71% of his shots are threes. Of Ilyasova's 485 attempts from 2 point land, 241 were at the rim where he converted 148 for a 61.4% fg percentage at that range. In terms of attempts, this translates to Ilyasova attacking the rim on 40% of his shots and shooting threes 19% of the time.


    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1&year_id=2012

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    Love Ilyasova's game, he'd be a perfect Bonner replacement, but he'll be too expensive and I don't think we can afford to sacrifice Splitter for him. Move on.
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    Will get crazy money this offseason

    i don't expect anything less than 8m/year.
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    I like this guy a lot, but isnt this who Lorbek is supposed to be but more expensive?

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    Several teams are looking at this kid - including the cash-rich, trigger-happy, Brooklyn Nets. I believe he'll be far out of the Spurs price range.
    Last edited by SenorSpur; 06-09-2012 at 02:34 PM.

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    Bruce Almighty Bruno's Avatar
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    If Duncan is ready to take a paycut for his new contract, Ilyasova isn't that much of a reach.

    The following scenario is CBA compliant:
    - Mills opt out.
    - Spurs don't do a QO to Green but keep their early bird rights on him.
    - Byars is cut.
    - Bonner is amnestied.
    - Blair and Joseph are salary dumped. Cash can even be included if needed.
    - Spurs re-sign Duncan to a $15M/3 years contract.
    - Spurs spend their cap-space on Ilyasova to sign him to a $31.5M/4 years contract.
    - Spurs use their room exception ($5.3M/2 years) on Lorbek.
    - Spurs re-sign Green with the early bird rights.
    - Spurs fill the rest of the roster with min salaries.

    At the end Spurs rotation would be:
    Parker/Neal
    Ginobili/Green
    Leonard/Jackson
    Ilyasova/Lorbek
    Duncan/Splitter
    Last edited by Bruno; 06-11-2012 at 05:15 PM.

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    Believe.
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    If Duncan is ready to take a paycut for his new contract, Ilyasova isn't that much of a reach.

    The following scenario is CBA compliant:
    - Mills opt out.
    - Spurs don't do a QO to Green but keep their early bird rights on him.
    - Byars is cut.
    - Blair and Joseph are salary dumped. Cash can even be included if needed.
    - Spurs re-sign Duncan to a $15M/3 years contract.
    - Spurs spend their cap-space on Ilyasova to sign him to a $31.5M/4 years contract.
    - Spurs use their room exception ($5.3M/2 years) on Lorbek.
    - Spurs re-sign Green with the early bird rights.
    - Spurs fill the rest of the roster with min salaries.

    At the end Spurs rotation would be:
    Parker/Neal
    Ginobili/Green
    Leonard/Jackson
    Ilyasova/Lorbek
    Duncan/Splitter
    Ginboili
    So, no Diaw?
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    If Duncan is ready to take a paycut for his new contract, Ilyasova isn't that much of a reach.

    The following scenario is CBA compliant:
    - Mills opt out.
    - Spurs don't do a QO to Green but keep their early bird rights on him.
    - Byars is cut.
    - Blair and Joseph are salary dumped. Cash can even be included if needed.
    - Spurs re-sign Duncan to a $15M/3 years contract.
    - Spurs spend their cap-space on Ilyasova to sign him to a $31.5M/4 years contract.
    - Spurs use their room exception ($5.3M/2 years) on Lorbek.
    - Spurs re-sign Green with the early bird rights.
    - Spurs fill the rest of the roster with min salaries.

    At the end Spurs rotation would be:
    Parker/Neal
    Ginobili/Green
    Leonard/Jackson
    Ilyasova/Lorbek
    Duncan/Splitter
    Ginboili
    And Bonner is salary dumped as well, right?

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    Yeah, no Diaw. I don't see him accepting the room exception while Lorbek can. I also rather have Lorbek than Diaw at the backup PF slot.

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    And Bonner is salary dumped as well, right?
    Bonner is amnestied, my bad.

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    Bonner is amnestied, my bad.
    He could be traded for at least a second round pick.

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    Bonner is amnestied, my bad.
    The second best (and more realistic thing) to his being salary dumped.. Wish it happens quickly. Can't stand him anymore on the Spurs.

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    Long shot, but not impossible. Plus it makes sense when thinking of a post-Duncan situation. People said it would be impossible to unload Richard Jefferson too, not very long ago...

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    If Duncan is ready to take a paycut for his new contract, Ilyasova isn't that much of a reach.

    The following scenario is CBA compliant:
    - Mills opt out.
    - Spurs don't do a QO to Green but keep their early bird rights on him.
    - Byars is cut.
    - Bonner is amnestied.
    - Blair and Joseph are salary dumped. Cash can even be included if needed.
    - Spurs re-sign Duncan to a $15M/3 years contract.
    - Spurs spend their cap-space on Ilyasova to sign him to a $31.5M/4 years contract.
    - Spurs use their room exception ($5.3M/2 years) on Lorbek.
    - Spurs re-sign Green with the early bird rights.
    - Spurs fill the rest of the roster with min salaries.

    At the end Spurs rotation would be:
    Parker/Neal
    Ginobili/Green
    Leonard/Jackson
    Ilyasova/Lorbek
    Duncan/Splitter
    Ginboili
    Wow, that's quite a scenario. I don't know if Tim would roll with $5 million a year, but there's no telling what he would do if it meant upgrading the team and becoming more competitive.

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    If Duncan is ready to take a paycut for his new contract, Ilyasova isn't that much of a reach.

    The following scenario is CBA compliant:
    - Mills opt out.
    - Spurs don't do a QO to Green but keep their early bird rights on him.
    - Byars is cut.
    - Bonner is amnestied.
    - Blair and Joseph are salary dumped. Cash can even be included if needed.
    - Spurs re-sign Duncan to a $15M/3 years contract.
    - Spurs spend their cap-space on Ilyasova to sign him to a $31.5M/4 years contract.
    - Spurs use their room exception ($5.3M/2 years) on Lorbek.
    - Spurs re-sign Green with the early bird rights.
    - Spurs fill the rest of the roster with min salaries.

    At the end Spurs rotation would be:
    Parker/Neal
    Ginobili/Green
    Leonard/Jackson
    Ilyasova/Lorbek
    Duncan/Splitter
    Ginboili
    great plan. I like.
    (some weeks ago I was talking about a - much less elaborated - scenario, where Tim takes 8M per year and that way a significant FA could be signed. this was rated plasphemia.)

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    Do you really think Ersan gets 8M per year? He made great strides but seems like a lot.

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    If Duncan is ready to take a paycut for his new contract, Ilyasova isn't that much of a reach.

    The following scenario is CBA compliant:
    - Mills opt out.
    - Spurs don't do a QO to Green but keep their early bird rights on him.
    - Byars is cut.
    - Bonner is amnestied.
    - Blair and Joseph are salary dumped. Cash can even be included if needed.
    - Spurs re-sign Duncan to a $15M/3 years contract.
    - Spurs spend their cap-space on Ilyasova to sign him to a $31.5M/4 years contract.
    - Spurs use their room exception ($5.3M/2 years) on Lorbek.
    - Spurs re-sign Green with the early bird rights.
    - Spurs fill the rest of the roster with min salaries.

    At the end Spurs rotation would be:
    Parker/Neal
    Ginobili/Green
    Leonard/Jackson
    Ilyasova/Lorbek
    Duncan/Splitter

    It all hinges on what Duncan wants to do. But if I had to guess which aging star would be willing to take a pay cut for a chance at another championship, I think Duncan would be the prime candidate.

    Minimum player possibilities would be guys like Dominic McGuire, Donte Greene, Sheldon Williams, Jared Jeffries, Sundiata Gaines, Hasheem Thabeet... all players with clear shortcomings of one sort or another, but all good risks for a minimum salary.

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    I imagine myself in his situation and after making all those millions at this point in my career I would do what ever it took to go out with another ring. As long as I new that Pop and RC were going to be able to get the players that I new would help us win a championship.

    The question is how much better is he then Lobrek?

    As far as contracts can you stagger the pay..1st year 3 mill/ 2nd. 7 mill/ 3rd 5 or 6mill?
    Last edited by BackHome; 06-11-2012 at 06:54 PM.

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    we don't know how good Lorbek could be.
    but Ilyasova averaged 15.5 PPG and 9.7 RPG over the last 3 months of the season. (41 games). do we see Lorbek do this? No.
    Ilyasova should be a bit better on offense and significantly better on the boards. let's guess that the best case scenario for Lorbek is 10 PPG and 6 RPG, that difference in production usually is payed by 2-3 times the money. so, if Lorbek is willing to play for 3 million, the 7-8 for Ilyasova are reasonable.

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    anythings possible i guess, but I cannot see Erson not going back to the Bucks for the highest possible salary..SA is definately the hot bed for euro's right now though with there style of play.

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    Let's put things in perspective we got RJ from the Bucks and we all know how that turned out. Looking at his numbers he averaged 13pts a game and RJ averaged 9pts a game when he was with us.

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