Offseason Trade Thread:

[maverick1948]

Floor on cap is 90% of 58 Mill or 52 Mill. The Hornets have about 29 (16 mil plus Lewis buyout of 13). Gordon is going to cost them as someone will make an offer. I guess about 7 Mil for Gordon. The #1 and #10 picks will cost 6.2 M total. If they keep the 2nd round pick on the team, it will cost about .5 M. That makes a total of 10 players on contract at a total of 42+ or -. They need a minimum of 4 more players and 10 mil to meet the NBA requirements on cap and roster. This tells me that the salary cap is going to come into play after next season and not this year. Demps is going to work like RC and Pop to have a great team and not destroy the salary cap.

We should offer Bonner for the 46th pick. Maybe Kyle O'Quinn will still be avaiable for us to draft and maybe Bernard James at the 59. Couldn't hurt to make offer.

One other thing the Hornets can do. Offer Jack and #10 pick and 2013 protected 1st round for Deron Williams on a sign and trade.

[ace3g]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA

The Houston Rockets are shopping Samuel Dalembert, according to sources. He may be packaged with one of Houston's first-round picks.


Sam Amick

As @alexkennedynba noted, Houston is indeed shopping C Samuel Dalembert to attach w/ one of its picks (14 & 16) & move up. He has $1.5 mil buyout for next season.

[Duncan2177]

It looks like the Houston Rockets have a deal in the works to move Sam Dalembert and possibly the 16th pick.

http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

[Agloco]

Unless you do it to sign an oft-injured Eric Gordon to a max contract and go out and overpay Chris Kaman to stay. Its not brilliant until you know what they do with the savings

The trade was brilliant, future moves obviously non-withstanding.

[ace3g]

Report: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Top 10 pick in NBA Draft

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...ng-up-in-draft

[ginobili fan]

shitty move by the hornets.
F**** Rashard uugly ass lewis with his 20mil contracts amnesty sucks,nba sucks,lebron sucks,New orleans sucks, anyway who cares ?

[loveforthegame]

» Update: 10:01 AM

Adrian Wojnarowski: Minnesota has agreed to trade the 18th overall pick in Thursday's draft to Houston for Chase Budinger, league sources tell Y! Sports. Twitter

[JonNOKC]

» Update: 10:01 AM

Adrian Wojnarowski: Minnesota has agreed to trade the 18th overall pick in Thursday's draft to Houston for Chase Budinger, league sources tell Y! Sports. Twitter

Wow - like Chase but in deep draft surprise that is all it took to get the 18th pick - guess it boils down to taken a proven commodity vs the unknown, and not like Minnesota's scouts/GM should have much confidence in their ability to draft the right guy

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Wow - like Chase but in deep draft surprise that is all it took to get the 18th pick - guess it boils down to taken a proven commodity vs the unknown, and not like Minnesota's scouts/GM should have much confidence in their ability to draft the right guy

Wolves didn't need another rookie on their roster, they need someone with experience (though Budinger doesn't have a whole lot of it). And Houston is trying to load up picks to offer Orlando for Dwight.

[DPG21920]

If Chase is worth the 18th pick you have to think Tiago is at least in that ballpark value wise depending on team need.

[JonNOKC]

If Chase is worth the 18th pick you have to think Tiago is at least in that ballpark value wise depending on team need.

I was thinking the same thing - I initially scoffed at Tiago getting us a back end lottery pick but may not be that far fetched

[afireinside20]

Any way we could get Adam Morrison on our squad?

[Richie]

Budinger for 18? Hopefully we have ambitions for a higher pick or could have given them better

[pad300]

I was thinking the same thing - I initially scoffed at Tiago getting us a back end lottery pick but may not be that far fetched

Not to mention Blair might get you to the mid to late 20's. Nicholson or Wroten territory...

[loveforthegame]

The Kings need to shake things up. I can see them accepting.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap..._5th_Selection

The Rockets have offered Kyle Lowry along with the No. 14 and No. 16 picks to the Kings in exchange for Tyreke Evans and the No. 5 pick.

Sacramento is currently deciding whether to accept the offer.

Via Jonathan Givony/DraftExpress (via Twitter)

[CGD]

Budinger for 18? Hopefully we have ambitions for a higher pick or could have given them better

David Khan at his finest.

[stxspurs]

Any way we could get Adam Morrison on our squad?

Your kidding right?

[timvp]

Budinger for 18 helps us figure how much the Spurs players are worth. Splitter has to have more value than Budinger, so he's probably worth somewhere in the 12-14 range. Budinger is more valuable than Blair and Neal so those two are probably second rounders with an outside shot at a very late first rounder if another team is enamored.

[JonNOKC]

Budinger for 18 helps us figure how much the Spurs players are worth. Splitter has to have more value than Budinger, so he's probably worth somewhere in the 12-14 range. Budinger is more valuable than Blair and Neal so those two are probably second rounders with an outside shot at a very late first rounder if another team is enamored.

One thing I wonder is if you have to put an asterisk on this because it was David Kahn - I guess in the end it only takes one GM to feel a player is worth a certain spots - but certainly doesn't hurt to be able to tell another team hey this guy got the 18th pick and my guy is a little better and big man are harder to find

[gambit1990]

Budinger for 18 helps us figure how much the Spurs players are worth. Splitter has to have more value than Budinger, so he's probably worth somewhere in the 12-14 range. Budinger is more valuable than Blair and Neal so those two are probably second rounders with an outside shot at a very late first rounder if another team is enamored.

as soon as i saw budinger for 18 it had me thinking splitter could go for 12.

[8FOR!3]

You've got to think if you can get anything around pick 15 for Splitter you'd do it. There's so many potentially good bigs in this draft. You might have the opportunity to draft someone younger, more athletic, with higher upside. Splitter's talented no doubt, but I almost think he's more fit for European play. That's not disregarding basketball in Europe, that's just saying it's a different style of play.

[spurraider21]

Great deal for the Hornets. Eric Gordon is a stud to build around and they have all the financial flexibility in the world

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

I like Splitter...but pull the trigger if possible. Please.

[Beanzamillion21]

I like Splitter...but pull the trigger if possible. Please.

agreed.

[TD 21]

Budinger for 18 helps us figure how much the Spurs players are worth. Splitter has to have more value than Budinger, so he's probably worth somewhere in the 12-14 range. Budinger is more valuable than Blair and Neal so those two are probably second rounders with an outside shot at a very late first rounder if another team is enamored.

"Has to have" isn't strong enough; absolutely, unequivocally has, is more like it. And significantly so. You're still undervaluing him at 12-14. 10-12 is more like it.

Blair could very well be worth a late 1st, but if he's not, he's worth two 2nds, at least one of which within' the first five picks. Neal is probably worth an early 2nd.

[Kidd K]

Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress

New Orleans trades Emeka Okafor and Trevor Ariza to Washington for Rashard Lewis and the #46 pick. (damn you auto-correct)

Amazing trade for the Wizards. They really ripped them off imo.

I wish we could've traded for those guys.


I think it's terrible for New Orleans though because they could've gotten a hell of a lot more than that for Okafor. Lewis is garbage and ridiuclously overpriced. His contract is toxic too since he's practically 6x overpaid at this point and getting nearly as much as Kobe.

Good move by the Hornets. They are rebuilding and Okafor/Ariza weren't part of the process. Next step for them is to tank too 2012/2013 to get another good pick in the 2013 draft before using their capspace in the 2013 free agency.

I don't get it for Wizards. Oklafor makes especially little sense while they have Nene and Seraphin.

Okafor is worth 5x as much as Lewis imo. Much cheaper, and at least 3x better on the floor. So they can simply trade him and get plenty back, keep him and have a great frontcourt rotation, or trade one of their other, inferior bigs and keep Okafor.

[Kidd K]

» Update: 10:01 AM

Adrian Wojnarowski: Minnesota has agreed to trade the 18th overall pick in Thursday's draft to Houston for Chase Budinger, league sources tell Y! Sports. Twitter

Just proves my point when I was saying Blair is worth a hell of a lot more than getting packaged with a second rounder for a mere 27th pick. Told you guys that shit was a dumb idea. . .

If Budinger can get an 18th round pick, Blair can at least get a 20th-22nd pick imo. By himself.

[gambit1990]

i would like to flip splitter and blair for john henson.

[Nathan89]

Amazing trade for the Wizards. They really ripped them off imo.

I wish we could've traded for those guys.


I think it's terrible for New Orleans though because they could've gotten a hell of a lot more than that for Okafor. Lewis is garbage and ridiuclously overpriced. His contract is toxic too since he's practically 6x overpaid at this point and getting nearly as much as Kobe.



Okafor is worth 5x as much as Lewis imo. Much cheaper, and at least 3x better on the floor. So they can simply trade him and get plenty back, keep him and have a great frontcourt rotation, or trade one of their other, inferior bigs and keep Okafor.

No. Okafor has a multi-year terrible contract. Lewis is on the last year of his terrible contract. That's why New Orleans made the deal and it was a great deal for them.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

What teams are in the draft that would want splitter?

And what players might be available at those picks that would be a good spurs fit