At this point I'm predicting he'll be here for at least 2 more seasons. Pop loves the guy's work ethic and the fact that he "spreads the floor." Sure he goes away in the playoffs but the regular season is much longer so Pop gets to enjoy his skills for a good chunk of time each season. And he finds all the good sandwiches for the team.
That's really not what I was referring to. I can understand swinging the ball around the perimeter, but it's extremely frustrating to watch him panic and put the ball on the floor when open and then have no decent pass to make. The team always ends up with a broken play and a forced shot to beat the shot clock if not a turnover.
The NBA definition of open includes having a defender running at you if he's a step short from being able to make a decent contest. But even when Bonner's significantly more open than that I have seen him pass up shots and put the ball on the floor instead, and it happened a lot against OKC (which is likely why he was rightfully benched). He's done it in other years too, and the only reasonable explanation is nerves. I can't imagine it's done by design when the team NEVER seems to react to get a good shot out of it.Secondly, although many here claim he passes up "open" shots, I haven't once in my entire life seen him pass up a truly open shot, where there were no defenders. Every single one of these so-called "open" shots were with a defender closing on him.
If you don't useit on him, then it goes to waste
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This is exactly like when Omar sneered at stringer and said, "This ain't about yo money, brah"
Its not about his contact value, not about money
No reasonable spur fan wants him on this team because if he is on the roster that assures 10000% that he will get playoff minutes.
Yeah, I would be calling for them to amnesty him if he was on a minimum deal. The team depending on Bonner in the regular season is like climbing Everest with oxygen and then as soon as you get past camp iv your tank runs out abruptly and you're from 100% to 33% air pressure. People can climb it without oxygen and it's slower (just like Bonner can help in the season), but your body doesn't have the enormous jolt when you're a couple thousand feet from the summit that way if you haven't trained it to depend on the oxygen tank.
Respect needs to be shown for what Pop and Bonner have done together past, present, and future. If you can get a LeBron for Bonner, Kevin Durant for Bonner, that #1 overall UniBrow guy and cash for Bonner etc you might think about it.
Anything else is completely disrespectful to Pop.
He's won 4 titles you know.
Bonner still has some use as a regular-season minutes sponge, because Duncan's minutes will be even shorter this year. But if he plays AT ALL in the playoffs outside of complete garbage time, I will be pissed.
I wouldn't be adverse to him being in the front office.
He's a very intelligent person and would most likely be a good FO asset.
Yes, really. No matter how smart your mom told you that you are, it's not true. I hate to break it to you, but you are as dumb as a bag of rocks.
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If he's a part of the rotation at all Pop will play him. Fast forward 4 years and this has still proven to be true. What makes you think anything will change?
He will eat up a significant chunk of time every year until he's gone.
Amnesty Bonner and re-sign Novak.
Can we get this process accelerated somehow?
Pop is a Matt Bonner freak. Weird
Depends on the situation and player. Parker, no, probably not, but if any other guard on the Spurs is open at the corner, yes, definitely pass it on. Another factor to consider is that shooting % is higher off the pass, althoug Bonner's 3's are nearly all that way anyway so it's kind if a moot point.
Are you trying to tell me the most successful front office in any major sport knows better than people who follow basketball as a hobby and post about it online? Yeah right.
Offensively they're similar, but Novak is a poorer defender. You may be thinking from a salary cap standpoint, but I don't think we'd be signing Novak for significantly cheaper dollars.
If you had any semblence of a memory, you would recall how he got bulldogged by a vertiable assortment of Memphis bigs. Take your pick. Or are you that lost in your denial that you cannot recall him getting punked by Zach Randolph, Darrell Arthur and even Sam Young for christsakes? They all ran a basketball train on your boy. If you're even brave enough to remember or even rewatch the highlights YOUR brain will explode.He was statistically our best player in the 2011 Memphis series. Can't wait to hear your brain explode on that one.
I can picture you trying to understand it for half a second, then getting confused and angry. "Statistically, what's he mean by that?? He sucked!" then just writing me off, but still somehow feeling inwardly angry because a part of you recognizes that you don't understand what's going on.
You are an absolute moron for even trying to defend Bonner. However, I'm not surprised. I just knew there were Bonner apologists out here. My suggestion to you is to put down the alcohol and realize that you have no point to make because, when it comes to Bonner, there really is no point to be made. I guess you must have red hair too.
He honestly seems like a dumbass since he stood with Billy Hunter's crooked ass when Fisher was trying to challenge him and his idiot strategies.
What's sad is I try to look at Bonner ignoring these things that he cannot be expected to excel in (post defense and rebounding for example) and he still comes up looking awful. All I care about is that he takes and hits open threes and he keeps letting us down over and over again in the games that mean anything.If you had any semblence of a memory, you would recall how he got bulldogged by a vertiable assortment of Memphis bigs. Take your pick. Or are you that lost in your denial that you cannot recall him getting punked by Zach Randolph, Darrell Arthur and even Sam Young for christsakes? They all ran a basketball train on your boy. If you're even brave enough to remember or even rewatch the highlights YOUR brain will explode.
You are an absolute moron for even trying to defend Bonner. However, I'm not surprised. I just knew there were Bonner apologists out here. My suggestion to you is to put down the alcohol and realize that you have no point to make because, when it comes to Bonner, there really is no point to be made. I guess you must have red hair too.
Well we won't agree. His role is being a 3 point specialist, he's there to take the open shot and keep defenses honest and spread the floor. If he won't take the open shot, then I rather simply have somebody else play that role. A player that can at least know what he's doing when he puts the ball on the floor.
At least Pop seems to have come to terms with this and benched his sorry ass. I think if we can manage to re-sign Diaw, Matty is simply expendable. I think Blair probably has to go first, but with his rookie contract, it just might not make sense.
Plus Blair isn't AS one-dimensional as Bonner, even if he can't shoot.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...29#post4490429
Epic thread, btw... Kinda sucks it was closed, you could bump that after every playoff
at his salary its not worth amnestying, at least this year. who could we possibly sign with that money anyway. we're better off actually hanging onto him thsi year, and possibly amnestying him next offseason, the same year we get jax (10 mil), manu (14 mil), and tiago's (3.9) contracts off the books. in a big cap clearing offseason i wouldnt mind dumping an extra 3.5, in an offseason where we could potentially land a guy like dwight or bynum
Actually, Blair is HALF dimensional, now that his jumping ability is almost gone.
A 6'5 center who can't dunk, can't shoot, has no ACLs.
And people wonder why Spurs could not get a first rounder for a a 23 y/o guy who cost 1 M and started several games for the best team in the league.......
Amnesty? No, if they didn't amnesty Jefferson, they will probably amnesty nobody. Too smart.
Trade? I wonder who could be interested in this big, very unathletic in his prime, and now at 32 clearly incapable to keep up with speedy guys.
A guy that can't dribble, can't drive, can't rebound, and hangs on the 3 point line, waiting for passes from masters like Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili.
Do you guys see many team around with Parkers and Ginobilis?
A guy who is going to hang in there untill he will be 34 for 7.4 M?
Spurs FO is good, but mabe not that good.
I guess they will have to throw in a first rounder to get rid of Bonner.
Finally, for those of you bashing Pop for this, just think how good a coach Pop is instead, winning 70% of games by exploiting the only plus of Bonner, while hiding his huge pitfalls.
With so many Eurostashed players first rounders are expendable. Plus 2013's draft class is apparently shallow.
If the Spurs FO were the best in any sport, ever, they'd have a young athletic big to complement Tim Duncan in exchange for some string and bubble gum.
After four years of continuous failure, the evidence against the big red-head is overwhelming and impossible to ignore.
Drz is probably the best Bonner troll I’ve seen yet – a combo of Chazley and Vander (maybe the same?).
Stats and 3 pt. shooting ability aside, there’s a simple way of looking at the situation. Choice A) the Spurs trade Bonner, Choice B) using the amnesty and I’d even say that there’s a choice C) cutting him. Obviously these are choices that would be extremely tough for the FO given their player loyalty and on paper Bonner’s decent contract.
Spurs aren’t really in a position to just throw money away, but here’s why it’s needed - the Spurs can’t afford to have “regular season” players because of their necessity on rhythm going into and during the playoffs. It seems more and more that the only chance the Spurs have of competing in the playoffs is by having a deep bench that is able to be consistent. Bonner helps during the regular season, but he prevents another player from getting PT that could lead to a consistent playoff performance.
Last point – the Spurs have become very skilled in their players as a whole, but there is a lack of toughness that was present in players like Elie, SJax (still good but not enough), and Horry. But I think there’s a different type of toughness needed and that has to come from players that aren’t afraid to drive the lane or give a hard foul to make a point (even though it’s frowned upon by Pop). Bonner represents what the Spurs have become – skilled and scared and that’s why he should be replaced by a less skilled, but more rounded talent that has guts and ultimately can compete in the playoffs (blue collar player – not a paper tiger).
Bonner isn't the problem. It's Pop deluding himself that that man deserves to be in a playoff rotation.
Either way I want his ass of this team no way should he be back!!
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