are you saying that sworn filings disclosing Mitt Romney as CEO of Bain mean nothing, and Romney is not responsible for them or for the activities of Bain when he was on file officially as their CEO?
are you saying that sworn filings disclosing Mitt Romney as CEO of Bain mean nothing, and Romney is not responsible for them or for the activities of Bain when he was on file officially as their CEO?
$100,000 a year for three years to do nothing? Really?
Well, that is chump change for the job he was doing before.
Maybe some people wanted to see his name still.
I miss the 1/2 hr News hour...
That's actually only operative when its Democrats lying.
Catch a Democrat in a lie; meh, all politicians are liars.
Catch a Republican in a lie; IT'S BRINGING HIM DOWN!
But, since Romney hasn't lied about his relationship with Bain Capital, I don't see the big deal.
Fucking Bainers.
If he was not really doing any work with Bain, was he not at least misrepresenting to potential clients that he was involved by being listed as CEO and President.
Gecko's getting his self-proclaimed main qualification for Prez trashed, A VERY BIG DEAL, by his own lies, with the Dems simply pointing them out.
Business associates have said Gecko's word at Bain was worthless.
His own campaign guy said they could Etch-a-Sketch (erase, forget) all the Gecko pandering to the extreme right wing and "Christian" assholes in the primaries and become more moderate in the main campaign.
The guy stands for nothing, is an empty man, just like dubya, both born wealthy with silver spoons up their privileged asses.
Whether you like them or not, these lines of attack are proving extremely effective. Obama is now increasing his lead in Ohio and Virginia. If he wins those two states, it is over. The gap should shorten once American Crossroads and the other Republican super PACS unleash their barrage of attacks. I suspect they are waiting til closer to the election, hoping Obama's current momentum is peaking to early.
It's July and the Bainers keep getting their asses handed to them rather quickly.
A fair take, I think.
The Democrats are attempting to do a couple of other things with the Bain attack, one obvious and one less obvious. The obvious gambit is to define Mitt Romney before he can define himself. That’s an age-old tactic incumbents use against challengers, particularly against challengers who worry them. Romney should and does worry Obama: He united the GOP far faster than anyone expected, he is running a much more aggressive and disciplined campaign than expected, and he is already raising more money than the Obama machine. That Obama is launching such a cynical attack now exposes him to charges that despite his hope and change rhetoric, he is in fact just another gutter politician. The Romney ad that hit today (embedded above) does a good job of opening that response by using Obama’s own lofty rhetoric against him. It’s a pretty devastating ad. The president does risk this entire attack blowing back on him, but he has calculated that it’s a risk worth taking. That leads to the second reason the Obama campaign is attacking Romney’s pre-political life.
Barack Obama is in a position where he must take risks in order to win. No McCain 2008 states are in play, while several Obama 2008 states are in play. Demographics and therefore electoral votes have shifted toward the GOP states. The economy is in the tank and Obama has no idea for changing that. His signature health care law is unpopular. His job approval rating is consistently underwater. Add to that, it’s simply an objective fact that Mitt Romney’s resume is far stronger than that of Barack Obama. Romney build a very successful company, then left that company to save face for America by rescuing the SLC Olympics from corruption and disaster. The whole narrative here is profoundly strong for Romney: He left a thriving business, one that fixed broken companies, at the height of success to serve his country. Through his competence and leadership, Romney averted national humiliation in the eyes of the world. To this day there exists no credible criticism of Romney’s Olympics success. After the Olympics job was done, Romney decided to follow in his father’s footsteps and get into public service full time. This part of Romney’s story is stronger than his four years as governor of Massachusetts, which is the part of his resume that most conservatives would prefer not to discuss, but which is not by itself a deal breaker with the right. Obama is attacking the strongest part of Romney’s story in order to crack it and weaken the rest of it. He is hoping to disqualify Romney in the minds of the voters by destroying the best things he has done in his professional life: Succeed in business and serve his country, both of which carry the subtext that Romney is able to solve very difficult problems. Barack Obama never succeeded in business, and never really fixed anything. Obama simply cannot compete or offer a story of his own that is as compelling as Romney’s. So he must destroy it if possible by turning Bain Capital into villainous Bane Capital in the minds of the voters, before Romney’s success story really sets in.
I consider that pretty fair, yes. But Obama's getting more traction with his Bain attacks, regardless. This is particularly devastating:
I guess if you like liars, it works...for a while.
Say, didn't the US send 29 billion of stimulus green money, offshore?
If for once if you tried to consider how this is viewed by people other than yourself then you will finally have some political insight. Most everything I read from you is a pat on your back and reaffirmation of your GOP fanboiism.
Try and consider what independents might think or borderline party supporters. Its pretty obvious that anything short of child rape isn't going to be enough to get you off the GOP bandwagon. As such they do not campaign to you, either side.
Stop thinking of what you think of the message and rather to what other people think.
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Alabama’s GOP Governor Calls On Romney To Release More Tax Returns: ‘Release Everything To The American People’
Pressure was building on Romney from within his own party to be more forthcoming with his finances, a day after he declared he would not release past income tax returns beyond his 2010 tax records and, before the November election, his 2011 taxes.
On the sidelines of the National Governors Association meeting in Williamsburg, Alabama’s Republican governor, Robert Bentley, called on Romney to release all the documents requested of him.
“If you have things to hide, then maybe you’re doing things wrong,” Bentley said. “I think you ought to be willing to release everything to the American people.“
http://thinkprogress.org/election/20...re-tax-returns
Come on, Gecko, you know as one of the 0.01%, you can "settle" with the IRS for tax evasion. That old lesbian Senator from The Great Racist Red-State of South Carolina said this week tax evasion is The American Thing To Do.
Well, well, people and Obama are worried about Romney and Bane. Something that
occurred 12 - 15 years ago. And guess who's money Romney was using......his own.
So what's the big deal. Outsourcing. Some say lying.
Hell. Obama used our money and sent it overseas right off the bat and lies on a
daily basis. For a technology that is about one blade short of useless and
solar panels that wouldn't run an electric cigarette.
So all you useless Libs just tooting you horn, hopefully Romney will tell you to
stick it and keep on trucking.
And by the way, Romney and his tax returns. Got a good idea, Get Romney to
release his returns when Obama releases his real birth certificate, his transcripts
and his papers he wrote as editor of the law review or whatever. And throw in
Bill Clintons health records.
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XZ, go take your Alzheimer's meds. We taxpayers are paying for you socialists.
Birthers
Woodward Dismisses Romney’s SEC Documents: Everyone Knows Financial Disclosures Are ‘Camouflages’ For Reality
WOODWARD: People who are relying on SEC documents know the value of SEC documents. I mean, they are camouflages for what’s really going. So that’s not really the issue.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...sec-documents/
Jon Stewart Tears Into Romney’s Weak Bain Capital, Tax Return Defense
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewa...eturn-defense/
Yes, Romney Perjured Himself
he signed a federal financial disclosure form, under the penalty of perjury, saying he had not been involved "in any way" with Bain after he left for Utah in February 1999
That's a strong statement. And it is directly undercut by Romney's own statement in his 2002 attempt to prove residency to run for governor:
Romney testified that “there were a number of social trips and business trips that brought [him] back to Massachusetts, board meetings” while he was running the Olympics. He added that he remained on the boards of several companies, including the Lifelike Co., in which Bain Capital held a stake until 2001...
“He succeeded in that three-year period in restoring confidence in the Olympic Games, closing that disastrous deficit and staging one of the most successful Olympic Games ever to occur on US soil,” said Peter L. Ebb from Ropes & Gray, [his lawyer at the 2002 hearing].
“Now while all that was going on, very much in the public eye, what happened to his private and public ties to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts? And the answer is they continued unabated just as they had.”
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....d-himself.html
It's damn simple, as clearly as it is documented, ain't it?
Romney’s Implosion Triggers an Epic Rush Limbaugh Obama Hate Meltdown
RUSH: Yeah, well, you know who really invented the Internet? It was the military. It was a DOD project, and Obama hates that. But, folks, look. Here he is repeating it: Roads and bridges. The roads and bridges came after what was necessary, or what made the roads and bridges necessary. They came after that. I’ll tell you what. I think it can now be said, without equivocation — without equivocation — that this man hates this country. He is trying — Barack Obama is trying — to dismantle, brick by brick, the American dream.
There’s no other way to put this.
There’s no other way to explain this.
He was indoctrinated as a child. His father was a communist. His mother was a leftist. He was sent to prep and Ivy League schools where his contempt for the country was reinforced. He moved to Chicago. It was the home of the radical-left movement. He hooks up to Ayers and Dohrn and Rashid Khalidi. He learns the ruthlessness of Cook County politics. This is what we have as a president: A radical ideologue, a ruthless politician who despises the country and the way it was founded and the way in which it became great.
He hates it.
This temper tantrum from Limbaugh is the biggest sign yet that even the most brainwashed of conservatives can sense that 2012 is starting to slip away from them. Republicans are just starting to grasp that they have nominated a fatally flawed candidate who can’t explain his time at Bain, or even release his own tax returns.
Mitt Romney sold himself to the right as their best chance to beat Obama, but that was never true. Now, Rush Limbaugh is forced to rally the troops by breaking out all of the old lies about the president. Obama is a radical leftist. Obama and Bill Ayers are best buds. Obama is a Chicago style corrupt politician. Obama is a commie because the daddy that he barely knew was one too.
This is all so very 2008.
Limbaugh is running out of defenses for Romney, so he had to double down on the Obama attacks. Like Romney, attacking Obama is all Rush has got. There is still plenty of time left in this campaign, but as long as Romney’s credibility is buried beneath questions about his actions at Bain, finances, and tax returns, he has no chance of getting his message out.
http://www.politicususa.com/romneys-...=Google+Reader
Gecko has a "message" to get out?
Romney Made Repeated Trips To Bain, Weighed In On Business Decisions After 1999
On Wednesday, a new report from the Associated Press reveals that the former Massachusetts governor made several trips to Boston to meet with partners and other key employees at Bain Capital’s headquarters while running the Salt Lake City Winter Olympics. The details contradict Romney’s claim that he did not interact with the company after leaving in February of 1999. From the piece:
Several associates now say that Romney made repeated trips between Salt Lake and Boston, where he met at times with his former partners, mostly to discuss his severance from the firm. The Boston Globe reported last week that Romney also met with his Bain partners at a 15th anniversary celebration in Palm Beach, Fla., in early 1999.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...in-after-1999/
Gecko is a liar, probably a felony liar (to SEC).
Nothing out of the ordinary here. I think I would rather hear what the partners of Bain have to say than the associates who would likely not be a part of the discussions. Notice they don't give specifics on any operational or investment orders he gave. Lol at this story and think progress.
"Nothing out of the ordinary here"
just ordinary lying by Gecko that he had nothing to do with Bain after 1999.
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just ordinary tautological "analysis" by thinkprogress.borg.
lol thinkprogress
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"...but it was your assumption that assumed I made an assumption"
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...you're not curious about anything outside of your close-minded, benighted blind ideology.
"The private equity industry is designed to make companies better and economies more efficient and create jobs"
BIG LIE, total propaganda.
private equity industry is designed to make money for its investors (providers of the hard cash equity), no matter how much that profit making costs anybody and anything else.
the article was aimed at crass oversimplifiers like you. it hit the mark, I'd say.
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