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  1. #61
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    we have the ability to score, what we need is defense in the paint.........what happened to the days when there were a bunch of defensive minded bigs available, guys like Haley, who couldn't score to save their lives, but could give you the interior presence you needed on the defensive side of the ball.

    all these guys can score, or could score, but for the most part are crap defenders.....man, the league sure has changed over the last 5 or so years.
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  2. #62
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    I'd add Dominic McGuire as a combo forward borderline big for his energy, and Fesenko for his massive size and limited potential.

  3. #63
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    we have the ability to score, what we need is defense in the paint.........what happened to the days when there were a bunch of defensive minded bigs available, guys like Haley, who couldn't score to save their lives, but could give you the interior presence you needed on the defensive side of the ball.

    all these guys can score, or could score, but for the most part are crap defenders.....man, the league sure has changed over the last 5 or so years.
    I agree. I think the keys for the team are better post offense and defense. With Diaw and Leonard and Green the defense should improve from RJ and Blair.

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    K-Mart is still a good player. I guess he could be an alternative to Scola.

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    Just give a god damn phone call to Martin and offer him a god damn offer.
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    Just give a god damn phone call to Martin and offer him a god damn offer.
    We have Matt Bonner
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    we have the ability to score, what we need is defense in the paint.........what happened to the days when there were a bunch of defensive minded bigs available, guys like Haley, who couldn't score to save their lives, but could give you the interior presence you needed on the defensive side of the ball.

    all these guys can score, or could score, but for the most part are crap defenders.....man, the league sure has changed over the last 5 or so years.

  8. #68
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    That's who I thought he was talking about too.

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    Martin isn't perfect, but given the situation you take him.

    I could see a Jermaine O'Neal, but then you have 3 centers...who makes sense defending the 4 in a league in which tall swingmen play the 4?

    The only reason I'd go with an outside shooting big is just so Pop might be forced to end his mancrush on Bonner and play someone else with better defense and rebounding.

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    That's who I thought he was talking about too.
    If you say Haley and defense, it's the only face that pops into my head. The only Haley I remember on the Spurs didn't play defense. In fact, the only thing I remember him doing is being Rodman's friend and picking a fight with that ugly little point guard from the Nuggets in garbage time of a playoff game.
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    Right now my 3 choices would be Dominic McGuire, Kenyon Martin, or James Singleton.
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    PG: Parker, CJ, De Colo, Mills
    SG: Manu, Green, Neal
    SF: Kawhi, TMac
    PF: Duncan, Diaw, Bonner
    C: Splitter, Baynes, Blair

    "So the final image of Ginobili isn’t that he lost a bronze medal. It’s what he did to try to win one." -
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    Still crazy after all these years. “And I love that,” Jackson said. “I’d rather play with someone like him, who plays hard and gets hurt, than someone who is afraid.”

    - SJAX regarding Manu


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    we have the ability to score, what we need is defense in the paint.........what happened to the days when there were a bunch of defensive minded bigs available, guys like Haley, who couldn't score to save their lives, but could give you the interior presence you needed on the defensive side of the ball.

    all these guys can score, or could score, but for the most part are crap defenders.....man, the league sure has changed over the last 5 or so years.
    Well not to sure but watching us play against OK no one wanted to shot the ball. It was like the ball was a hot brick the way our players were throwing it around to each other.

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    Any reason you didn't put Anthony Randolph on that list? Yes, I know he's a headcase, and I know he's failed to live up to his potential, but the potential is still there and Pop/Tim could be just the guys to bring it out of him.

    Otherwise, I'm intrigued by K-Mart (even though I don't like him, this team has lacked a tough SOB for some time), Leuer and Harellson.
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    Any reason you didn't put Anthony Randolph on that list? Yes, I know he's a headcase, and I know he's failed to live up to his potential, but the potential is still there and Pop/Tim could be just the guys to bring it out of him.

    Otherwise, I'm intrigued by K-Mart (even though I don't like him, this team has lacked a tough SOB for some time), Leuer and Harellson.
    Anthony Randolph isn't signing for the minimum.

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    Thanks Mel. Missed that.

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    Right now my 3 choices would be Dominic McGuire, Kenyon Martin, or James Singleton.
    I consider McGuire and Singleton small forwards. Tbh, I've never seen McGuire play in the paint; in fact, last game of the season he was playing point guard for the Warriors for a stretch. Singleton is too small to survive as a full time four, IMO.

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    Kenyon Martin...

    who is mel_13 anyway?

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    I have a strange feeling we'll end up with K-Mart, and that wouldn't be a bad fit (unless his histrionics on the court lead to chemistry issues, which is unlikely but not out of the realm of possibility).

    Oh, and timvp, absolutely loving your writing over the past few months. IMHO, you've taken it to another level entirely. Thank you.

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    Kenyon Martin...

    who is mel_13 anyway?
    I don't know, except that he's a good poster with solid takes, unlike the trash you spread around the place...

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    Oh, and timvp, absolutely loving your writing over the past few months. IMHO, you've taken it to another level entirely. Thank you.
    Stop kissing ass.

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    I don't know, except that he's a good poster with solid takes, unlike the trash you spread around the place...
    whatever..

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    Stop kissing ass.
    I'm not "kissing ass". I'm letting a friend know that his work is drastically improving even when it was very good to start with. It's called encouragement and support, mate.

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    i say bring back dawson see what he can do again...

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    I consider McGuire and Singleton small forwards. Tbh, I've never seen McGuire play in the paint; in fact, last game of the season he was playing point guard for the Warriors for a stretch. Singleton is too small to survive as a full time four, IMO.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQODruTg09U

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    You guys could sign Birdman. I am assuming he will get amnestied before the deadline.

    Hopefully he won't end up in jail.
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    You guys could sign Birdman. I am assuming he will get amnestied before the deadline.

    Hopefully he won't end up in jail.
    I don't think the Spurs would want him. What exactly did he do? I recall they said in the playoffs last year he was helping the police? Was he actually helping them or was he being the one looked at for something?

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    We need some got damn above average post defense and toughness way more than anything else, even if it's true that our backup center does get shut down by point guards. Give me Turiaf or Martin over Scola or this budding bonner Leuer kid any day of the week.

    J O'Neal would be sweet if his broke ass could play more than half a season.

    Hoping for Martin.

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    We need some got damn above average post defense and toughness way more than anything else, even if it's true that our backup center does get shut down by point guards. Give me Turiaf or Martin over Scola or this budding bonner Leuer kid any day of the week.

    J O'Neal would be sweet if his broke ass could play more than half a season.

    Hoping for Martin.
    Your letting one play characterize your evaluation of Splitter. Plus Fisher is one of the best floppers ever. Lebron also failed to post up JJ Barea (who's smaller than Fisher) in the Finals. Does that characterize him?

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    TBH, i think Blair is just as good, if not better than most of the people on this list. yet, everyone wants these guys to leapfrog him in the rotation.

    Blair is better and younger than turiaf in my opinion.

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    You either forgot about or neglected to mention Dorsey. He's basically a bigger, stronger Blair. Only unlike Blair, he's still an elite rebounder and he's actually a solid post defender too. He's not as skilled and he may not be Spurs material, but for the minimum and as a fifth big, they could do much worse.
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