Disregarding "religions" like scientology what do you feel is the worst religion based on their value system etc.
Do you dislike Buddhism due to reincarnation or Islam due to it's misogyny just for some examples
Disregarding "religions" like scientology what do you feel is the worst religion based on their value system etc.
Do you dislike Buddhism due to reincarnation or Islam due to it's misogyny just for some examples
Religions are fine, religious followers are a bit more iffy. I generally follow the old line that it's poor form to discuss religion out of respect for the believer -- who might care -- as well as for the atheist, who doesn't.
at any rate, such colloquies seldom conduce to peace, love and understanding here
lol butter knives out for Buddhism and Islam
That's because they are people.
I couldn't say one religion is "worse" than another.
I think in terms of the core beliefs Islam is the most dangerous because of their belief that man is born sinless and must maintain that state throughout life as well as combining law and religion. Christianity would be next in line simply because of history and because many christians seem to use their faith as an excuse to behave in a very non christian way.
I wouldn't include Buddism since it is non theistic and is really more of a philosophy. It's possible to be christian and practice buddism. Not all buddist beleive in reincarnation btw. They all believe in rebirth which is a completely different concept.
Most of the exclusionary monotheistic religions have doctrine that requires proselytizing. They also use threats to enforce faith. As such I feel it is important to speak out against them.
It would be one thing if they had an institutional policy that was 'live and let live,' but that is not the case.
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In other words, you feel it's important to proselytize.
I agree it is the people. Although some of the teachings are what anger me personally
I am speaking out against a belief not advocating one in particular.
Typically proselytize implies conversion to a faith. I suppose if you want to use a broader definition then you could apply that as I am advocating the idea that the tenants of christianity like hell for sinners, a deity forgiving sinners if you are contrite because he let his kid die, armageddon, genesis, etc are not true.
Is not believing a belief? As an empiricist I don't think so. I think that is the default state.
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Well you can rationalize it how you like. IME Jehovah's Witnesses got nothing on atheists when it comes to aggressively trying to convert people to their way of thinking.
That was not a rationalization. That was a logical construct. The semantics of the word are the semantics of the word. I am not trying to convert someone to a belief, cause, organization or anything else. You're the one trying to make a negation into a belief.
Jehovah's Witness are funny because they only think 144k people are going to be brought into gods kingdom following Armageddon. Everyone else is subjugated to the 144k or goes to hell. Sounds like the religion for me!
As an atheist, I don't think there's one "worst" religion, I just think they all need to take a step back and stop trying to control everyone else's lives, tbh.... they aren't nearly as important as they think they are, I mean, they're basically magical sky fairy clubs....
Atheism is the worst religion because, it's a faith built on destroying all other faiths. Wait, that's radical Islam, as well. Okay, both of them.
Not a terrible thing, imo.
Yeah, well, it's kind of why those English fellers, back in the day, came over here; to escape religious persecution.
I think atheists should start their own country.
its the phony pretenders that suck......which is the majority.
Nice generalization, B.... I consider myself more of an apatheist than a hard-line secularist, but I doubt you even know the distinction.....
When have atheists tried to destroy other faiths?
No, I get the distinction but, it only exists, if you're truly apathetic about what anyone does, with respect to their religious faiths.
it would probably get invaded by people like those English Crusading fellers from back in the day.
I think you made two good points, but I have to excluded the bolded part as a valid argument since it was also true for Christianity until quite recently.
How many atheists do you actually know Yoni?
not believing is not the same as believing. scepticism is not the same thing as faith. Faith is n a requirement of consciousness even if it is for your particuar worldview. Not collecting stamps does not make you a nonstampcollector.
Christianity is an exclusionary religion as is judaism as is Islam.
Atheists dogma is pretty damn religious and yes I know plenty of them. They remind me of high school bullies or the fat rich kid in high school when they talk about religion. Their common meme is meme is "I don't believe in fairy tales". They mock it from the get go and really are a waste of time to have a conversation about it. I simply smile and nod.
do they just walk up to you and say they don't believe in fairytales or do you bring up religion first?
And that's exactly how I feel.... I don't really care whether or not you choose to follow any religion, just don't use the law to force your beliefs on the rest of the population and it's cool, tbh.....
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