San Antonio Bubble Mentality?

[NRHector]

The Mexican Cartels will save and invest in SA then it'll become a city with alot of money where players will love to play and party

[Buddy Holly]

The Mexican Cartels will save and invest in SA then it'll become a city with alot of money where players will love to play and party

Save? From what?

BTW, Graham Weston is already using his billions to invest in San Antonio. He's putting hundreds of millions into downtown.

[DMC]

Is it just me or does the San Antonio culture seem to exist in it's own bubble where free agents are very hesitant to enter?

First I've heard of it.

[DMC]

Pop is one of the most widely respected coaches in the league, so I doubt he's the problem. His system, however, may be one of the culprits.

1) The Spurs system is notoriously nuanced and complicated. If you had to do a job, would you want to it the simple and fun way, or the difficult and complex way? I think some players just wouldn't want to put in the time, and know they wouldn't stick around long if they didn't. They also know that they will have to give into the "team concept"....meaning they can't try to constantly put themselves in the spotlight. With most NBA players being alpha dogs, and also wanting to showcase their skills to land bigger contracts, that probably doesn't sit well.

2) San Antonio is not a "premiere destination". Sure, its a nice town...but there's no beach, no mountains, no big money market, not a lot of night-life....it's a family town, and not a lot of NBA players are "family guys". Outside of that, about the only thing it really has going is cost of living and no state taxes.

3) Spurs are known for being fiscal, and also don't have a lot of cap space. That means they don't overpay their players, and they make them earn what they do pay. Players are more likely to get a big payday from a team that throws its money around, as opposed to coming to San Antonio where they will be pressured to take less money.

4) Like it or not, the Spurs aren't contenders anymore. They aren't far off, but they are still on the outside looking in. I'm sure players would rather play for a playoff team than a cellar dweller....but they'd also rather play for a true contender than a possible pretender.

SA is a black hole for the media. Players not only want to win, they want money. They not only want money, they want fame. They not only want fame, they want attention from the media. They don't want to have to fly to another city to attend a decent event. Even TNT dogs the shit out of SA. Same is true for OKC. No one is going to want to play there, even if they win a ring.

They don't want to be bible beaten.

They don't want to fall into group lock step with Tim Duncan's head patting routine.

It's a retirement destination for players.

[racm]

It's too Hispanic and not black enough, tbh

[Buddy Holly]

It's too Hispanic and not black enough, tbh

Probably. We'd be a top three landing spot for soccer!

[racm]

Why else would Manu be at home?

[Buddy Holly]

They don't want to be bible beaten.

They wouldn't in SA.

[Buddy Holly]

Why else would Manu be at home?

His wife called him?

[rascal]

LOL that Phoenix is the measuring stick to compare to. Wow, SA is slightly better than the place that's 110 every day.

San Antonio isn't much better. 98 for months on end with higher humidity.

[rascal]

San Antonio is a boring town to many young black athletes.

[Kori Ellis]

Pop is one of the most widely respected coaches in the league, so I doubt he's the problem. His system, however, may be one of the culprits.

1) The Spurs system is notoriously nuanced and complicated. If you had to do a job, would you want to it the simple and fun way, or the difficult and complex way? I think some players just wouldn't want to put in the time, and know they wouldn't stick around long if they didn't. They also know that they will have to give into the "team concept"....meaning they can't try to constantly put themselves in the spotlight. With most NBA players being alpha dogs, and also wanting to showcase their skills to land bigger contracts, that probably doesn't sit well.

2) San Antonio is not a "premiere destination". Sure, its a nice town...but there's no beach, no mountains, no big money market, not a lot of night-life....it's a family town, and not a lot of NBA players are "family guys". Outside of that, about the only thing it really has going is cost of living and no state taxes.

3) Spurs are known for being fiscal, and also don't have a lot of cap space. That means they don't overpay their players, and they make them earn what they do pay. Players are more likely to get a big payday from a team that throws its money around, as opposed to coming to San Antonio where they will be pressured to take less money.

4) Like it or not, the Spurs aren't contenders anymore. They aren't far off, but they are still on the outside looking in. I'm sure players would rather play for a playoff team than a cellar dweller....but they'd also rather play for a true contender than a possible pretender.

This is the best answer in the thread.

[maverick1948]

San Antonio is a small city with a small market. Simply put they don't have as much dough as other cities. I can't comment on how the place and the people are since I've never been there but it doesn't look bad, I wouldn't call it "shitty". BTW, anyone here ever been to NY or LA?

San Antonio is the 7th largest city in the US. Factor in the outlying areas that make up the market, you have well over 2.5 million and growing fast. While LA and NY claim everything within a 75 mile radius as their market, we have Austin only 70 miles from SA and getting closer every year. Austin growing at 41 % and SA at 22 % means a lot more people in the SA market.

Pop is one of the most widely respected coaches in the league, so I doubt he's the problem. His system, however, may be one of the culprits.

1) The Spurs system is notoriously nuanced and complicated. If you had to do a job, would you want to it the simple and fun way, or the difficult and complex way? I think some players just wouldn't want to put in the time, and know they wouldn't stick around long if they didn't. They also know that they will have to give into the "team concept"....meaning they can't try to constantly put themselves in the spotlight. With most NBA players being alpha dogs, and also wanting to showcase their skills to land bigger contracts, that probably doesn't sit well.

2) San Antonio is not a "premiere destination". Sure, its a nice town...but there's no beach, no mountains, no big money market, not a lot of night-life....it's a family town, and not a lot of NBA players are "family guys". Outside of that, about the only thing it really has going is cost of living and no state taxes.

3) Spurs are known for being fiscal, and also don't have a lot of cap space. That means they don't overpay their players, and they make them earn what they do pay. Players are more likely to get a big payday from a team that throws its money around, as opposed to coming to San Antonio where they will be pressured to take less money.

4) Like it or not, the Spurs aren't contenders anymore. They aren't far off, but they are still on the outside looking in. I'm sure players would rather play for a playoff team than a cellar dweller....but they'd also rather play for a true contender than a possible pretender.

Dex agreed with you on #1 and some of #3. Spurs spend their money in a way that keeps players here. If we paid like Lakers we would go broke. We dont charge the same for tickets. But to say we dont pay is foolish. We have had one of the higher payrolls over the last 15 years. We do watch the luxury tax. That gives a misnomer that we are cheap.

As for #2, you must have missed the fact that we have some very fine resorts within driving distance of SA. Excellent golf and swimming resorts abound in this area. Not everything has to revolve around rap and hiphop music. Depending on where in LA you live, it may be a 3 or 4 hour drive to a safe beach, while it is only 4 hours for an overnight stay in Corpus. After driving thru California on a 2 week vacation, I found that there were things there that were not here. We had snow in Donner Pass, Heat and earthquake in LA, rush hour traffic that lasted all day(in SA it lasts less than an hour to get anywhere in the city). Leaving LA, we saw nothing but desert until we got back to Texas(this includes Arizona and New Mexico). I invite you to come to the Hill Country and see the beauty of Texas, go to East Texas and see the Piney Woods. Visit NASA in Houston, the Alamo in SA and Dallas, Ft Worth see Texas. SA has enough history in the area to fill a book of its own.

#4. No longer contenders. What does playing in the playoffs for 15 consecutive years, winning 4 titles, winning 50 or more games a season in 15 straight years and winning 20 games in row mean? If you are wanting to compare franchise historys, then we dont stand up to some of the others, LA or Bos but we are close to Chicago and ahead of the others. I can name you 20+ teams that would love to have the same problems we have.

[Bill_Brasky]

don't you dare trash talk my city!

I like SA, not the best city around but it's a fun place to go that's not far from ATX. Once you get used to the "big city laid out like a small town" vibe you can enjoy yourself there. IDK about living there though.

[Blake]

Probably. We'd be a top three landing spot for soccer!

It's what the Alamodome was built for

[SpursDynasty]

Lol at everyone here trash talking SA. Yet you live here too.

That being said, this city lacks charisma and people in this town only care about two things.

[Buddy Holly]

Thought this useless thread died a slow death.

[Buddy Holly]

It's what the Alamodome was built for

No, it wasn't.

[baseline bum]

It's what the Alamodome was built for

The Alamodome was built to bring the NFL to SA.

[Blake]

No, it wasn't.

Spurs + soccer?

[Blake]

The Alamodome was built to bring the NFL to SA.

like that would have ever happened

[davi78239]

like that would have ever happened

We got beat out by charlotte and freakin Jacksonville of all places for an NFL team.

[Buddy Holly]

Spurs + soccer?

No.

[Buddy Holly]

like that would have ever happened

We were final four finalists for a team but lost out to Charlotte and Jacksonville. Charlotte is understandable but the NFL thinking Jacksonville had a better future in terms of population and economic growth is pretty hysterical using hindsight.

[baseline bum]

The NFL never wanted any part of being here since lots of people here are hardcore Cowboys fans.

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

I think SA has more Cowboy fans than Dallas, at least percentage wise.

[Buddy Holly]

The NFL never wanted any part of being here since lots of people here are hardcore Cowboys fans.

The old commissioner didn't. Thankfully his behind has since retired.

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[DUNCANownsKOBE]

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[_JaG]

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