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more broadly, do you think it's a good idea to limit voting?
it can be a considerable burden for rural, elderly, poor, sick and disabled people.What the 's the big deal about requiring ID to vote anyway? It makes sense to me.
should their right to vote -- a fairly fundamental right, no? --be curtailed because they can't present proper ID?
more broadly, do you think it's a good idea to limit voting?
Texas Candidate Says Democrats Should Go Spend Their Food Stamps Instead Of Vote
A judicial election in Dallas County may heat up after video emerged of the Republican candidate in the race using a colorful analogy to explain the importance of limiting election day turnout by voters in Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson’s (D) congressional district.
“You might question, ‘why would you talk a Republican out of running against Eddie-Bernice Johnson?’,” Ron Natinsky (R) said in the video clip reported by the Dallas Morning News’ Trailblazer blog, explaining why he discouraged a fellow GOP politician in the area from mounting a challenge to Johnson in the 2014 midterms. “Well because we don’t want to motivate her voters. We don’t need another 5 or 10,000 of her people going to the polls. What we want them to think is, ‘There’s no reason. She doesn’t have an opponent. I don’t need to go to the polls.
“I’ll go spend my food stamp money at the grocery store or whatever, you know, on Election Day,” Natinsky concluded.
http://thinkprogress.org/election/20...e-food-stamps/
judicial elections! an abomination like NBA B2Bs
Yes it should. You should have proper identification if you want to vote.
How A South Dakota County Is Suppressing The Native American Vote
FORT THOMPSON, SOUTH DAKOTA — The Crow Creek Indian Reservation lies along the Missouri River in central South Dakota, an area marked by rolling hills of corn fields, a government-constructed dam and a Native American town centered around the tribe’s casino.
While South Dakotans across the state have been voting for weeks — the state offers 46 days of early absentee voting — the Crow Creek Sioux have yet to see their ballots. The closest early voting site is a 50 mile roundtrip away in Gann Valley, a town with a population of 14. The Buffalo County auditor, a white resident of the town, has refused to set aside federal funds to open a satellite office for early voting on the reservation this year.
That 50-mile trip is effectively impossible for many people on the reservation. Sixty-five-year-old Crow Creek resident Sylvia Walters lives in a government-subsidized apartment building for the elderly and disabled in Fort Thompson, the largest town on Crow Creek. She told ThinkProgress that because she doesn’t have a car, she has to pay someone to drive her if she wants to leave her immediate part of town. “I stay home a lot. Let’s put it that way,” she said. Although she plans on voting in November, she said she would have preferred having the option to vote early. “Sometimes you forget on the day or you’re busy,” she said. “This way when you’re thinking about it you can get it done.”
Native American voting rights group Four Directions has been fighting since 2002 to give Indians the same voting opportunities as other South Dakotans. Over breakfast at the Lode Star Casino in Fort Thompson, executive director OJ Semans, his wife Barb and Buffalo County Commissioner Donita Laudner told ThinkProgress the county’s refusal to open an early voting center is an attempt to suppress Native American votes.
http://thinkprogress.org/election/20...r-suppression/
your worries about the minuscule incidence of voter impersonation trump others' right to participate in elections?
that doesn't seem right, fair or even particularly wise.
the rights of thousands of US citizens will be abridged to prevent, at worst, a handful of imposters. what's good about that?
It's good for WC's Republican party.
no doubt
nobody SERIOUS thinks the Repugs would do anything for anybody but the corps and 1%
It definitely seems fair and right. Everyone should have identification. Call it a "cost" of being a US citizen.
aka, poll tax.
Ohio May Disenfranchise Voters For Technical Errors
Thanks to a series of laws that went into effect this summer, election officials in Ohio can throw out legitimate absentee and provisional ballots that have small errors — such as leaving out a middle name — and in many cases they don’t have to give the voter a chance to fix the problem. Two Ohio homeless groups and the state’s Democratic Party are now seeking to challenge these rules in court, arguing they violate the Voting Rights Act and the right to due process under the Cons ution.
“This is no different from Jim Crow, it’s just a new form of it,” Attorney Subodh Chandry, who is representing the groups, told ThinkProgress. “The laws shift the burden onto individual voters to not only get every single detail correct, but to match the state’s data, even if it is incorrect.”
The laws, which were signed by the Republican Governor John Kasich in February and implemented by Republican Secretary of State Jon Husted in June, expand the number of errors, mismatches or omissions that could disqualify a ballot, and cut the length of time a voter has to learn of the problems and remedy them.
Under the legislation, election officials are not permitted to notify voters of issues by telephone or email, even if they have contact information, so notifications could be held up in the mail as Election Day approaches.
And for those who vote provisionally, the state is not required to notify them at all if their vote will not be counted. Provisional voters have the right to modify their ballots if there are errors, but that right cannot be exercised if they are never notified of issues.
Ohio tends to net an unusually high number of provisional ballots, meaning the potential damage could be widespread.
http://thinkprogress.org/election/20...voter-lawsuit/
Another filthy, nasty Repug state, dreamin of how Secy of State Blackwell stole '04 from Kerry by counting fraud.
Computerized Vote Rigging Is Still the Unseen Threat to US Democracy
Exactly two years ago Harper's Magazine published a cover story "How to Rig an Election," (written by this author) detailing the hidden threat to democracy posed by our electronic vote counting systems. Easily rigged and hacked, these computers are controlled by a handful of shady corporations, some with criminal records, who fight to keep their vote-counting software a "trade secret."
Computerized Voting Today Ensures That Americans Cannot Oversee or Verify Their Own Elections.
Elections are held in a vast patchwork of electoral fiefdoms where laws, procedures and private-vendor technology change from state to state; even from county to county. It's difficult for one hand to know what the other is doing, particularly when legal public record requests on electronic voting systems are routinely denied.
Little-known grassroots Election Integrity (EI) organizations have been fighting an unrecognized war to reclaim and secure our vote count; groups like Election Defense Alliance, Michigan Election Reform Alliance, Voter PA, Voter GA, Wisconsin Citizens for Election Protection, California Election Protection Network, and many others, including social media sites like Occupy Rigged Elections.
These activists have been holding the line in the democracy trenches for years now, even decades. Almost always underfunded or totally unpaid, they are our friends and neighbors, working people - they need increased support now, as we head toward the pivotal 2016 elections.
Unlike other issue groups, EI activists span the political spectrum, recognizing that protecting our ballots is not a partisan issue. Republican voters have every reason to cry foul when in recent days they've seen electronic Touchscreen votes "flipping" to Democratic candidates, However, Democrats and progressives have long do ented an anomalous "red shift" from expected results based on polls of about 6 percent of votes to the conservative right wherever secretly-programmed electronic voting machines are used.
Most ballots are still counted by Optical Scanners, which have been proven to lose votes, overheat and mis-tally, and can be hacked and rigged intentionally.
But far worse are the Touchscreen voting machines, which the world's top technical security experts have repeatedly demonstrated are perfectly designed to manipulate votes internally while eliminating our physical paper ballots altogether.
Argonne National Laboratories Vulnerability Assessment Team recently performed a hack on a Diebold Touchscreens requiring only $25 in parts and an eighth-grade science education.
Electronic voting systems are actually failing and breaking down nationwide, creating long voting lines and the risk of votes lost to error and malfunction.
Jurisdictions do not have the money to replace these expensive systems, creating a crisis that is also an opportunity for a robust, informed, citizen-led discussion on what voting systems will truly serve our needs.
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/2...nge-the-system
America is so ed, and so un able!
Bull . Our political compact says we're born with certain rights, including the right to vote.
http://www.texasobserver.org/texas-v...s-auctioneers/One thing is certain: Very, very few Texans have gotten election identification certificates (EIC), the new state-issued form of photo ID for those who don’t have it—340 Texans, to be precise.
That’s less than two thousandths of a percent of Texas’ voting age population. That’s only a little more than one EIC for each of Texas’ 254 counties. And many counties haven’t had a single citizen obtain an EIC. Another way to slice the numbers: There are more licensed auctioneers (2,454) in Texas than there are people with EICs—more than seven times as many in fact. In Harris County, with more than 4.3 million people, a poverty rate of 18 percent and 70 percent people of color, there are 186 licensed auctioneers but just 21 EICs. There are more licenses for boxing judges in Lubbock County (4) than there are voters with EICs (3). There are more licensed elevator inspectors in Dallas County (35) than voters with EICs (28). And so on
You better be able to prove you're a citizen.
there are ways of doing that short of presenting state issued ID, and have been for years. a more restrictive law isn't necessary, given the statistically negligible incidence/impact of voter impersonation.
face it, tlong: this has nothing to do with the integrity of elections and everything to do from keeping poor people and minorities (i.e, perceived Democratic Party cons uencies) from the polls.
it has been amply demonstrated in this thread that the threat of voter impersonation to the integrity of US elections is illusory.
stuff like this is far more worrying than voter impersonation fraud: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2...ion-nightmare/
NO ONE has ANY RIGHTS that aren't enforced, protected by government. No rights are "inalienable", all are granted and guaranteed by government.
Obviously, many red state govts are DENYING the right to vote to many American citizens. That's the kind of govt Repugs, tea baggers, VRWC, 1% adore.
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