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    NRA Raises Specter Of The Holocaust To Fearmonger About Confiscation Of Firearms

    A new video commentary released by the NRA references the Holocaust and other instances of persecution to advance the baseless claim that "the government is collecting more and more gun registration data which could be used against gun owners in the form of full confiscation."

    The July 18 commentary was published by NRA News and is part of the gun group's recent efforts to reach ayounger, more diverse audience. In the video NRA News commentator Chris Cheng sets up his claim about government-sanctioned gun confiscation by citing recent reports of the persecution of Jewish people in Eastern Ukraine, as well as "what happened to our Jewish friends during World War II":


    CHRIS CHENG: Masked men in Eastern Ukraine recently handed out fliers in front of a synagogue which told Jews to register with pro-Russian militants. I don't even need to go into detail about world history and what happened to our Jewish friends during World War II. So here's why government registration of a protected right is a bad thing.

    He then listed laws that protect individuals from being discriminated on the basis of "religion, race, gender, pregnancy, age, and sexual orientation," before suggesting, "Perhaps we should include gun ownership as a protected class. That way the government could not discriminate against us by passing laws which restrict our Second Amendment rights."


    According to Cheng, a "protected class" for gun owners is necessary because "the government is collecting more and more gun registration data which could be used against gun owners in the form of full confiscation." However federal law prohibits the creation of a national gun registry. In fact, background check legislation in the U.S. Senate that the NRA played an instrumental role in defeating would have strengthened the penaltyfor the creation of a gun registry. According to the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, "Six states and the District of Columbia require registration of some or all firearms."


    In recent months NRA News commentators have played semantic games to attack the media for covering mass shootings and made claims that laws regulating firearm ownership are "equally as uncons utional" as Jim Crow laws.


    The NRA frequently uses the Holocaust to fearmonger about gun rights, and has on three recent occasionsbeen rebuked by civil rights group Anti-Defamation League for misappropriating the history of the Holocaust.


    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/07...earmong/200145

    As Obama said, "bitter rednecks cling to their Bible and religion"



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    According to a new interactive report from Everytown for Gun Safety, Americans have experienced about two mass shootings (involving four or more deaths) each month since January 2009.

    The report, which relies on FBI data and media reports from the last four years, exposes alarming trends in US gun violence. Here are some of the most striking statistics:


    • 42% of mass shooters possessed their guns illegally because they were felons, domestic abusers, or were otherwise prohibited under federal law from having guns.
    • 51% of mass shooting victims are women, while the shooters are nearly exclusively male.
    • 57% of mass shootings are related to domestic violence, meaning the shooter killed a current or former partner or family member.


    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...er1011892&t=14



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    According to a new interactive report from Everytown for Gun Safety, Americans have experienced about two mass shootings (involving four or more deaths) each month since January 2009.

    The report, which relies on FBI data and media reports from the last four years, exposes alarming trends in US gun violence. Here are some of the most striking statistics:


    • 42% of mass shooters possessed their guns illegally because they were felons, domestic abusers, or were otherwise prohibited under federal law from having guns.
    • 51% of mass shooting victims are women, while the shooters are nearly exclusively male.
    • 57% of mass shootings are related to domestic violence, meaning the shooter killed a current or former partner or family member.


    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...er1011892&t=14


    So people should not have the right to protect their homes?

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    Stalker. . Stalking takes effort. This is recreational -slapping.
    As for the question, that's one that VPC should have asked before cutting loose this vapid "analysis".
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    According to a new interactive report from Everytown for Gun Safety, Americans have experienced about two mass shootings (involving four or more deaths) each month since January 2009.

    The report, which relies on FBI data and media reports from the last four years, exposes alarming trends in US gun violence. Here are some of the most striking statistics:


    • 42% of mass shooters possessed their guns illegally because they were felons, domestic abusers, or were otherwise prohibited under federal law from having guns.
    • 51% of mass shooting victims are women, while the shooters are nearly exclusively male.
    • 57% of mass shootings are related to domestic violence, meaning the shooter killed a current or former partner or family member.


    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...er1011892&t=14


    Every town for gun safety----The collaboration of Bloomberg's failed Mayors Against Illegal guns and Moms Demand Action. Have you gone to their website? They sure do claim a lot of analysis but not one, single, source

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    According to a new interactive report from Everytown for Gun Safety, Americans have experienced about two mass shootings (involving four or more deaths) each month since January 2009.

    The report, which relies on FBI data and media reports from the last four years, exposes alarming trends in US gun violence. Here are some of the most striking statistics:


    • 42% of mass shooters possessed their guns illegally because they were felons, domestic abusers, or were otherwise prohibited under federal law from having guns.
    • 51% of mass shooting victims are women, while the shooters are nearly exclusively male.
    • 57% of mass shootings are related to domestic violence, meaning the shooter killed a current or former partner or family member.


    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...er1011892&t=14


    http://www.politifact.com/personalit...wn-gun-safety/

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    According to a new interactive report from Everytown for Gun Safety, Americans have experienced about two mass shootings (involving four or more deaths) each month since January 2009.

    The report, which relies on FBI data and media reports from the last four years, exposes alarming trends in US gun violence. Here are some of the most striking statistics:


    • 42% of mass shooters possessed their guns illegally because they were felons, domestic abusers, or were otherwise prohibited under federal law from having guns.
    • 51% of mass shooting victims are women, while the shooters are nearly exclusively male.
    • 57% of mass shootings are related to domestic violence, meaning the shooter killed a current or former partner or family member.


    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...er1011892&t=14


    http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/1465...nable-entries/

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    According to a new interactive report from Everytown for Gun Safety, Americans have experienced about two mass shootings (involving four or more deaths) each month since January 2009.

    The report, which relies on FBI data and media reports from the last four years, exposes alarming trends in US gun violence. Here are some of the most striking statistics:


    • 42% of mass shooters possessed their guns illegally because they were felons, domestic abusers, or were otherwise prohibited under federal law from having guns.
    • 51% of mass shooting victims are women, while the shooters are nearly exclusively male.
    • 57% of mass shootings are related to domestic violence, meaning the shooter killed a current or former partner or family member.


    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...er1011892&t=14


    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/ever...epresentatives

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    According to a new interactive report from Everytown for Gun Safety, Americans have experienced about two mass shootings (involving four or more deaths) each month since January 2009.

    The report, which relies on FBI data and media reports from the last four years, exposes alarming trends in US gun violence. Here are some of the most striking statistics:


    • 42% of mass shooters possessed their guns illegally because they were felons, domestic abusers, or were otherwise prohibited under federal law from having guns.
    • 51% of mass shooting victims are women, while the shooters are nearly exclusively male.
    • 57% of mass shootings are related to domestic violence, meaning the shooter killed a current or former partner or family member.


    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...er1011892&t=14


    Even CNN got in on the recreational -slapping of Everytown for gun safety.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/11/us...ber/index.html

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    New study: In 14 states, gun deaths exceeded motor vehicle deaths



    Gun fetishists like to argue that cars kill more people than do guns, and therefore there should be calls to ban cars, just as there are calls to ban guns. It's a patently stupid argument given that so many more people use cars than guns, and even more stupid given that cars are heavily regulated, and that those who drive them even have to be licensed. But in over a quarter of the states, even the most basic point of this patently stupid argument is itself not true:

    Oregon was one of 14 states where gun deaths outpaced motor vehicle deaths in 2011, according to a study by the Violence Policy Center.Data was compiled from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Center for Injury Prevention and Control.

    The data is the most recent available, and this marks the third year the Violence Policy Center has released such a comparison.


    The 13 other states where gun deaths exceeded motor vehicle deaths in 2011 were: Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Nevada, Ohio, Utah, Vermont, Virginia and Washington state, as well as the District of Columbia.

    North, South, East, and West. Urban and rural. Red, blue, and purple. The only common denominator is guns.


    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...8Daily+Kos%29#
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    Oregon was one of 14 states where gun deaths outpaced motor vehicle deaths in 2011, according to a study by the Violence Policy Center.
    Probably true.

    It would be nice if the Portland police stopped killing innocent people.

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    Probably true.

    It would be nice if the Portland police stopped killing innocent people.
    Do that thing where you turn the argument around by comparing guns and cars. That was cool.

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    NRA board member:

    Ted Nugent lashes out at ‘unclean vermin’ after Idaho Native American tribe cancels his concert

    Conservative rocker Ted Nugent on Tuesday responded to the news that an Idaho Native American tribe had canceled one of his upcoming concerts by lashing out at the “unclean vermin” who made it happen.

    “The Motor City Madman” had been schedule to perform for Couer D’Alene Casino in Worley, Idaho on Aug. 4 until the Southern Poverty Law Center caught tribal officials by asking for a comment on Monday. Later that day, the performance had been canceled.

    “I take it as a badge of honor that such unclean vermin are upset by me and my positive energy,” Nugent told Gannett Wisconsin Media on Tuesday. Put your heart and soul into everything you do and nobody can stop you. Sometimes you give the world the best you got and you get kicked in the teeth. Give the world the best you got anyway.”


    “By all indicators, I don’t think they actually qualify as people, but there has always been a lunatic fringe of hateful, rotten, dishonest people that hate happy, successful people,” he continued. “I believe raising and demanding accountability from our elected employees is Job One for every American. I am simply doing my job.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/2...e+Raw+Story%29



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    Do that thing where you turn the argument around by comparing guns and cars. That was cool.

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    NRA’s ‘Everyone Gets A Gun’ plan: Kids must pass shooting tests to advance in school

    NRA commentator Billy Johnson this week proposed that children be forced to learn shooting skills in order to graduate as part of a plan to enact “gun-required zones” in the United States, and use taxpayer money to subsidize firearm purchases.

    In a video le “Everyone Gets A Gun” that was released on Monday, Johnson complains that U.S. gun policy was focused on limiting access to firearms.


    “As a country we have an education policy. Imagine if that policy was about limiting who has access to public education,” he argued. “I mean, let’s be honest, the danger in educating people to think is that they might actually start to think for themselves. Perhaps we should think seriously about who we give access to knowledge. They could use it to do a lot of damage.”

    “We don’t have a U.S. gun policy. We have a U.S. anti-gun policy,” the NRA commentator continued. “Gun policy driven by people’s need for guns would seek to encourage people to keep and bear arms at all times. Maybe it would even reward those who do so. What if instead of gun free-zones we had gun-required zones?”

    In order to make his plan work, Johnson said that children would need to be introduced to firearms at a young age.


    “Just like we teach them reading and writing, necessary skills. We would teach shooting and firearm competency,” he explained. “It wouldn’t matter if a child’s parents weren’t good at it. We’d find them a mentor. It wouldn’t matter if they didn’t want to learn. We would make it necessary to advance to the next grade.”


    Johnson also suggested that the government would have to “subsidize” the purchase of guns like it did with food, education, and health care.


    “I mean, perhaps we would have government ranges where you could shoot for free or a yearly allotment of free ammunition,” he said. “Gun policy, driven by our need for guns would protect equal access to guns, just like we protect equal access to voting, and due process, and free speech.”


    Johnson concluded by lamenting that even Second Amendment advocates “can’t fathom a world where we would treat guns as a need.”


    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/2...e+Raw+Story%29

    "It's a job", right, Johnson?



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    just more fun from the "guns solve EVERYTHING" crowd

    Minnesota man guns down teen girl after she asks him to stop riding lawnmower in her yard

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/2...e+Raw+Story%29


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    California 80-year-old satisfied after gunning down fleeing pregnant home intruder

    An 80-year-old Long Beach man could be facing charges after admitting he shot a home intruder twice in the back, killing her, as she ran away and despite the fact that she told him she was pregnant.

    Tom Greer returned to his home Tuesday to find it being ransacked by a man and a woman.


    “I walked in on them,” Greer told KNBC. “And they jumped on me in the hallway.”


    Greer said that he was tackled and thrown to the ground but managed to get his .22-caliber revolver and confronted them as they ransacked a safe containing cash.

    Seeing the gun, the couple ran out of the house and started down an alley.


    “The lady, she couldn’t run as fast as the man, so I shot her in the back twice,” Greer explained. “She’s dead, but he got away.”


    “She says, ‘Don’t shoot me, I’m pregnant! I’m going to have a baby!’ And I shot her anyway,” Greer said.

    he did shoot a person who was trying to get away, so he wasn’t in imminent danger himself, and the law says you can’t shoot somebody under those cir stances.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/2...e+Raw+Story%29

    In Texas, he'd be acquitted, which we've seen already with a guy killing an intruder running away in his yard or driveway.



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    I got no problem with that. Don't steal and you won't get shot.

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    California 80-year-old satisfied after gunning down fleeing pregnant home intruder

    An 80-year-old Long Beach man could be facing charges after admitting he shot a home intruder twice in the back, killing her, as she ran away and despite the fact that she told him she was pregnant.

    Tom Greer returned to his home Tuesday to find it being ransacked by a man and a woman.


    “I walked in on them,” Greer told KNBC. “And they jumped on me in the hallway.”


    Greer said that he was tackled and thrown to the ground but managed to get his .22-caliber revolver and confronted them as they ransacked a safe containing cash.

    Seeing the gun, the couple ran out of the house and started down an alley.


    “The lady, she couldn’t run as fast as the man, so I shot her in the back twice,” Greer explained. “She’s dead, but he got away.”


    “She says, ‘Don’t shoot me, I’m pregnant! I’m going to have a baby!’ And I shot her anyway,” Greer said.

    he did shoot a person who was trying to get away, so he wasn’t in imminent danger himself, and the law says you can’t shoot somebody under those cir stances.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/2...e+Raw+Story%29

    In Texas, he'd be acquitted, which we've seen already with a guy killing an intruder running away in his yard or driveway.


    You sympathize with felons? You are truly a work of . her for robbing a house while pregnant stupid ing ****. her. Good shoot grandpa wish you would have gotten both of those low life s.

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    You sympathize with felons?
    you said that, I didn't

    old fart broke the law, in CA, he's probably convicted.

    Did he have to murder her? his only option? no.

    Did he enjoy murdering her? apparently, yes.

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    just more fun from the "guns solve EVERYTHING" crowd

    Minnesota man guns down teen girl after she asks him to stop riding lawnmower in her yard

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/2...e+Raw+Story%29

    Wtf. This actually happened?

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    Pregnant FL woman dies after being shot in head by friend showing off his gun collection

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/27/pregnant-fl-woman-dies-after-being-shot-in-head-by-friend-showing-off-his-gun-collection/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29

    Boutons' Federal Gun Laws would put the gun owner in jail 20 years w/o parole. As they say in France, "pour encourager les autres"

    It's ing Repug FL, so he'll probably get off with an "oops, sorry" and probation for a couple months, maybe some SYG reference. His lawyer will "blame the victim", will say the woman was a , or say if she didn't want to get shot, she shoulda dodged the bullet, etc, etc, as the legal profession goes.
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    Pregnant FL woman dies after being shot in head by friend showing off his gun collection

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/27/pregnant-fl-woman-dies-after-being-shot-in-head-by-friend-showing-off-his-gun-collection/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29

    Boutons' Federal Gun Laws would put the gun owner in jail 20 years w/o parole. As they say in France, "pour encourager les autres"

    It's ing Repug FL, so he'll probably get off with an "oops, sorry" and probation for a couple months, maybe some SYG reference. His lawyer will "blame the victim", will say the woman was a , or say if she didn't want to get shot, she shoulda dodged the bullet, etc, etc, as the legal profession goes.
    The dip should face stiff penalties indeed. Does the botouns system also punish drunk driver killers as harsh? Their crime is much worse and they are much more frequent. Why no outrage?

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    The dip should face stiff penalties indeed. Does the botouns system also punish drunk driver killers as harsh? Their crime is much worse and they are much more frequent. Why no outrage?
    Yep.

    Accidental death by car should be treated as harshly as accidental death by gun.

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