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Legit debate
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He's not even in the top 5
Magic
Isaish
Stockton
Nash (prime)
Tony Parker
CP3
Clippers
loaded
still irrelevant
wannabes
sterling
jim buss keeping them relevant
cpflop
griffin more interested in commercials than basketball
clipperfan
get in here and this
Oscar Robertson
Tony Parker
Stockton
Isiah
He's not better than any of the above when it comes to legacy, 0 rings, 0 MVPs, hasn't been past the 2nd round, Stockton has the most assists all-time and went to 2 Finals, was one shot away from pushing MJ to his first game 7, if CP3 doesn't ring he's not better in any way. The big O won a ring with Kareem and averaged triple doubles, Isiah Thomas won multiple rings and defeated MJ and Magic in the playoffs.(I know, I know, Magic had an injury but who cares, really?)
Parker all-time ranks higher than CP3, 3 rings, Finals MVP, 4 Finals appearances, plays defense but at least he won . CP3 has no chance with OKC and Spurs being in the way in the West and Heat's superteam being in the Finals every year. CP3 is also past his prime now and has a bum knee, it's safe to say he will not win a ring as a 1st option/Finals MVP, he might win later on in his career like Payton did with the Heat, tbh.
CP3 is not even top 5 all-time right now. I actually kinda liked him in his Hornets days but he turned into a horrible flopper and a playoffs choker.
I agree that he isn't even in the top5 (Magic, Stockton, Oscar, Isiah, Nash, Kidd, Parker...), but the sad part is, that even while he is still playing, he might not improve this standing a lot over the next few years (he has a shot at jumping in front of Parker and Kidd if he wins like 2 ships and becomes Finals MVP both times...its in play...LOL). While CP3 got so much hype he probably already peaked because of his legs.
A very Kevin Johnson like career with more hype and the fact, that CP3 didn't become a second banana yet (like KJ did with Barkley). He will rank better than KJ when it is all said and done, but it's not like people will think of him in 30 years when they are talking about the best PG ever.
But thats not saying he isn't a great player.
no... Isn't even the undisputed best PG of the current era.. When D-Will was in Mormon land and not pigging out on twinkies he was better. TP was better this year.
Clearly better:
Magic
Oscar
Isiah
Stockton
Payton
Kidd
Iverson
Just as good:
Tiny
Frazier
Cousy(historical context)
Kobe Johnson
Likely to be better in the future:
Rose
Not as good:
Parker
Deron Williams (used to be at least comparable)
Dennis Johnson
Parker is not as good by skill, but he's been to 4 Finals and won a FMVP, fans will remember TP by beating Lebron in the 2007 Finals and winning the MVP while no one will really remember Chris Paul getting swept in the 1st/2nd round.
^ never gets old.
Parker is at least comparable if not better tbh
The likes of Kidd and Stockton are better than Chris imho, not to say the other MJ. CP might be considered the 2nd best PG of his time, but not of all time.
He's one of the most overrated players of the metrics era, tbh, but he's definitely in the top 4 of all-time from a peak perspective(amongst PGs), and could be as high as 2nd..
Career-wise, he's obviously nowhere near the discussion, but ranking by career is overrated anyways, tbh..
Based strictly on peak performance, Magic is the only PG that is clearly ahead of him, tbh..Oscar Robertson is probably ahead, and peak Nash is a toss-up, tbh..outside of that, Paul is probably superior to any other PG..he's better than Isiah, easily better than Stockton, Jason Kidd isn't even in the discussion, Gary Payton wouldn't thrive in today's league, etc..
The problem with Paul is that his playoff resume is incomplete, but that should change in the next few years..if the Clippers don't come close to a le, it'll be a hit on Paul's legacy, obviously..
If you need to write "Legit Debate" then clearly you don't even think it is the case!
CP3 is the second best PG in the league right now, but certainly not second best of all time.
Is James Harden the second best SG of all time? Legit question.
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