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  1. #76
    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    Without Jim Buss we're light 2 NBA les.

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    I know it's funny to pin everything on "fredo" but the truth is Phil, Jeanie, Buss Sr. and Mitch Sr., Kobe, Dwight and Pau's decline all have a hand in the Lakers current mess.

    I would think it be better for Lakers haters to have more than one person to finger. Meaning even if Fredo stepped down it doesnt magically make the LAkers FO, back in a prime position. I think Mitch has been solid ...but he took some gambles that crapped out. I think Dr. Buss's failing health were the impetus of those gambles, but he is the GM. The onus is on him to right the ship.
    Jim should held 100% responsible. Not trading Pau when his value was high, letting him AND Dwight walk for nothing. Trading 4 picks for Nash, firing the entire scouting department while putting his bartender as the lead scout. These moves are directly tied to jim and has set back the franchise for years. Oh and giving Kobe that cap killing contract. Now is the time they need to start acquiring picks and developing players, but they won't do it.

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    Not to mention the head coaches

  4. #79
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    Jim should held 100% responsible. Not trading Pau when his value was high, letting him AND Dwight walk for nothing. Trading 4 picks for Nash, firing the entire scouting department while putting his bartender as the lead scout. These moves are directly tied to jim and has set back the franchise for years. Oh and giving Kobe that cap killing contract. Now is the time they need to start acquiring picks and developing players, but they won't do it.
    I dont get how Mitch, sr. Buss and the livebirds Phil and Jeanie are blameless here.

    Phil ran out Jerry.
    Mitch traded 4 picks for Nash at the request of Sr. Buss.
    Junior deserves blame for annointing his friend but Buss was either the blame or asleep at the wheel for gutting the scouting staff.
    Mike Brown is on Jimbo.
    D'antoni was again part of the dying wish of a great man who wanted to see some Showtime before he expired.

    Again not all on Jimbo.

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    Jim should held 100% responsible. Not trading Pau when his value was high, letting him AND Dwight walk for nothing. Trading 4 picks for Nash, firing the entire scouting department while putting his bartender as the lead scout. These moves are directly tied to jim and has set back the franchise for years. Oh and giving Kobe that cap killing contract. Now is the time they need to start acquiring picks and developing players, but they won't do it.
    2015 first round draft pick to Phoenix
    L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick to Phoenix protected for selections 1-5 in 2015, 1-3 in 2016 and 1-3 in 2017 and unprotected in 2018 [L.A. Lakers-Phoenix, 7/11/2012]


    2017 first round draft pick to Orlando
    If at least two years after the L.A. Lakers conveyed a 1st round pick to Phoenix, then the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick to Orlando protected for selections 1-5 in 2017 and 1-5 in 2018 and unprotected in 2019; if the L.A. Lakers have not conveyed a 1st round pick to Phoenix by 2017, then the L.A. Lakers will instead convey their 2017 2nd round pick and 2018 2nd round pick to Orlando [L.A. Lakers-Phoenix, 7/11/2012 then L.A. Lakers-Orlando, 8/10/2012]

  8. #83
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    Fredo is not entirely to blame, but he's also not a good owner, and if you don't have a good owner, you are almost always ed....

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    The pick

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    ^O & 47!!!

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    That's just Nashty.

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    Without Jim Buss we're light 2 NBA les.

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    Though without Jim Buss we're light 2 NBA World les.

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    keep getting them checks.

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    I broke ya and took your cookie, tee hee.

    I Win.

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    Though without Jim Buss we're light 2 NBA World les.

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    Lester won a le as a player for the Lakers. He's been a part of seven more as part of the front office. He was the first Lakers employee to scout Andrew Bynum back at the McDonald's All-American camp in 2005 and the loudest Lakers employee to recommend the chubby 7-foot, 275-pound high school center from New Jersey with the 10th overall pick in the 2005 draft.

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    Originally Posted by Thread

    Though without Ronnie Lester, we're light 2 NBA World les

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    ronnie lester

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    Though without Jim Buss we're light 2 NBA World les.

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    Originally Posted by Thread

    Though without Ronnie Lester, we're light 2 NBA World les

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    Without Jim Buss we're light 2 NBA les.

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