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"Messi won 4 straight and I'm still butthurt about it so I won't go to this event"
Ronaldo played better individually than Ribery, he should get it and after that playoffs leg against Sweeden I think he will get it.
That's what happens when the God gets injured, tbh.
This tbh
Kind of disagree. While Lahm is playing a terrific 13/14 season, I don't think he was that great last season(doing his job well, but nothing special like this year). Schweinsteiger was a s of himself (injuries paved his way). Robben sat out a bunch of times and wasn't even a sure shot starter, when beeing healthy.
I get your point and Bayern may have had the best roster of all teams. But if you would ask any Bayern fan (and I'm not one of them), I think 99% would say Ribery is their most valuable player with 1% beeing shared between Lahn and Schweinsteiger (just because they are the guys representing the team in interviews and so on).
I'm all for someone else getting the trophy (would hate to see Bayern fans celebrating some worthless sh** like that), but if I had a vote, he would get it.
It may sounds wrong but this is the way this award works. During world cup, euro professional teams achievements are totally over shadowed by NT... 2010 being an exception due to lack of clear cut leader of the Spanish NT as pointed out by DAF and Messi was the dominant force so your Sneijder argument doesn't pass the cut.
this post shows you are not very familiar with the Bayern, mudyez explained it in his post, except for somebody who just look at the names those who followed know that Ribery was the clear best individual of this formidable squad.
BTW I don't disagree with that. Individually Ronaldo is the better player no doubt and you are right DAF I believe his hat trick against Sweeden is gonna count a lot in the voting nevertheless difficult for voters to ignore Real won during that stretch.
If this year follow the history / trend of the balon d'or they will give it to Ribery but an upset for Ribery is totally possible. I wouldn't be mad over it tbh even if Ronaldo being snobed again would be comedy gold
The guardian like a lot of newspapers are giving it to Cr7
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...world-cup-2014
some fans are still pushing for Zlatan:
This literally makes no sense, Sneijder did more on a club and NT level than Messi. only reason he got it was because after Iniesta and Xavi dropped out (reasons stated before) Messi was the last Barca player with any sort of argument to win it. Messi being dominant by winning La Liga isn't much of argument.
Fair enough.this post shows you are not very familiar with the Bayern, mudyez explained it in his post, except for somebody who just look at the names those who followed know that Ribery was the clear best individual of this formidable squad.
Anyway, my point is that this award is a joke, each year different reason is given for deciding the winner. Even if CR wins it this year which I think he should it won't change my opinion of it.
Last edited by gnsf0946; 11-21-2013 at 08:53 AM.
In 2010 a Spanish should have won it, that's the first time IIRC that ballon d'or is not given to a player who had a dominant run with his NT during a WC. I agree with the fact that an argument could have been done for Sneijder. 2010 was atypical for sure and Messi had an amazing individual year this is why I'm saying he was dominant.
You are absolutely in your right to say this award is a joke but I disagree on the reason why, ballon d'or is by far one of most consistent individual award. Except in 2010, I don't have a lot of issues with the winners since I'm following it at least.
what I mean is, since Messi won it based on individual effort in 2010 and 2012, and won it based on team AND individual accomplishments I think it's fair to say that the award should be given for individual effort at which point Ribery should really have no chance, yet he does and I wouldn't be surprised if he won it because as i said it's seems that each year there's a possibility that team achievements trump individual achievements and vice versa.
Obviously if CR or Messi win it this year my point is moot.
messis 2012 was a fkn joke
what was the season that CR overcome the trophyless in la liga and eventually won the trophy, compared to messi who didnt win any trophy that year but had pplenty of goals and assists, didnt make sense to reward him the award that year...
I don't give a f*ck if a player gets it because of the amount of goals or because of trophies he won as long as each year they give the award for the same reason they gave it the year before and year before that, etc...
Globally Messi, because he is Messi, ed up a bit the logic of this award in 2010 mostly and we can make a case about 2012... but thats what god do tbh
but one or two years of exceptions don't make an inconsistent award after 50 years of history.
BTW the trophy started to be ed since these suckers of the FIFA took it over from France Football
Nah, it's because of the Blatter accident i believe.
Nah, this "incident" came great for him to use as a excuse. There were already talks about Cristiano not going to the event even before the Blatter thing and look how he didn't went to the "European player of the year" award. His ego can't take all this losing.
Yeah, giving it to the guy that broke the all-time scoring record on a calendar year was a joke.
Exactly, before the Golden ball was given only by the vote of journalists. If that would have still been the case in 2010 Sneijder would have won, when they added the vote of the players and coaches not only Sneijder didn't win but he didn't even finish in the top 3.
This is like the MVP argument in the NBA. In my personal opinion the indivdual performance should matter more than team accomplishments, it is after all an individual award.
I personnally don't care if it's the most talented player of a winning team award if it is consistent vs. individual. That's how journalists used to vote and in 50 years of history I don't see a lot of scandalous choice: Rossi, Platini, Belanov, baggio etc... I particulary loved M. Sammer vote (this kind of vote won't happen again unfortunately). 2006 was awesome in that regard: Cannavaro and Bufon.
Now we gonna have only number 9, number 10... defenders, mid fielder can go suck a
tbh muller was bayen best player te last 2 years.
Zlatan's gonna grab det Ballon d'Orsome fans are still pushing for Zlatan:
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