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    Picking at our position is has come down to that player willing to want to play in Europe. At our pick it is highly unlikely that your going to have a player that everyone is going to say "That's NBA starter material". Just guessing that the Spurs will sign Tony, Diaw, and Mills this summer so if that happens then you take the best SG/SF/PF/C.. As these draft will be replacing Manu, and Timmy, Bonner, Nando, CoJo, etc.
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    The draft class has so many possibilities. It really could depend on who stays in school. Players that would normally go 10-15 could be available in the 20's. The athletism is off the charts this season. I really love the odds of at least adding a really nice complimentary piece.
    Or, they could pull out of the draft to try to go higher in 2015.
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    Or, they could pull out of the draft to try to go higher in 2015.
    Completely true.
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    I think anyone who pulled out this year, like Smart or Cauley is unlikely to do so again, but anyone who is a Freshman who's stock is dropping would be likely to kick the can down the road for a year.
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    Joining the bandwagon on the description (I saw on twitter) of Kyle Anderson out of UCLA being similar to Boris Diaw. Seems to have good passing/handles for his size.

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    I was going to ask about him as well. Seems to great Diaw insurance. The team will have room for another big or two next year. The Spurs' pipeline ia full of combo-forwards, however. I would still prefer that the team draft a center or point guard.
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    I think draftexpress is crazy to have him at 55. I think he'll go well above that. He may not make it in the NBA, but his skills are well worth the gamble.
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    Use the first on this kid if he's there tbh...
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    There are players who look really good when playing in their depth, like Nando, and likely this kid, but they are totally overwhelmed by the speed and power of the NBA. Unless he has some sort of break out, he likely IS a late second rounder.
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    There are players who look really good when playing in their depth, like Nando, and likely this kid, but they are totally overwhelmed by the speed and power of the NBA. Unless he has some sort of break out, he likely IS a late second rounder.
    True. There's also a reason most point guards are short. The taller you are, the harder it is to handle the ball. This kid has good enough handles for college, but it's going to be harder in the pros. Also his gross lack of athleticism is worrisome. I think he'll be a mid-second-rounder.
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    Does anyone wonder if Danny Green might be worth a mid 1st to somebody? His value is still high after his showing in the 2012 playoffs, not just his Finals shooting but his defence on Curry was excellent. The Spurs need to decide if they are going to pay him in 2015, if not it should be a case of sell high while we can.

    The Bobcats for example are looking to build a defensive philosophy and could have 3 picks in the 2014 draft. If the Pistons pick they own is in the 16-20 range, might they be willing to trade? Danny Green for Detroits 1st? They have a lot of rookie contracts on their books already, a player with a good at ude and playoff experience might appeal to them.

    Probably reaching a bit for a fairly limited player like Danny.
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    Green will only be traded if the Duncan retires in the off-season or as part of a package for an upgrade (of which there aren't many out there). He's too important to the team to move for assets if they're still trying to compete. Also, it's not like he's in line for a max deal in 2015 or something like that. He's an MLE player if he returns to form.
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    Green will only be traded if the Duncan retires in the off-season or as part of a package for an upgrade (of which there aren't many out there). He's too important to the team to move for assets if they're still trying to compete. Also, it's not like he's in line for a max deal in 2015 or something like that. He's an MLE player if he returns to form.
    I agree he's too important to move just for a pick, I was thinking if the FO saw a Kawhi-for-Hill like deal on draft day I'm wondering if there are any teams who might be willing to give up a pick for him. I've heard a lot of people say there could be some good players taken in the mid-to-late 1st this year, a young team like the 'cats might want a proven quan y over yet another rookie.
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    I don't think it's analogous to the Hill situation. George ended up getting 10 times his old salary under his new contract. The Spurs weren't going anywhere near that money to keep him. Green may make a million more per year on his next deal. And that's only if he recovers his shot and has another good playoffs. The team will only lose him for nothing if they let him go. Also, Danny is a starter and projects to remain one for years while Hill was a backup who wanted starter's money. He looks like a great fit between Parker and Leonard, and I think the Spurs will want him to stay there in 2015, provided he's still playing well.

    But it would take a really special player to increase the Spurs le chances as a rookie more than Green does. Even a star like Paul George wasn't as good as a rookie as Green is now. It was one thing for Kawhi to be an improvement over Hill. Starter at a weak position versus backup at a strong position. You're not going to find a prime Wilson Chandler or prime Aaron Afflalo in the middle of the first.

    I see Beli as the only possible draft-day trade piece. Marco may well be able to garner a top-20 pick from the right team. Certain teams would probably give up a top-five pick for Leonard, but he's not on the block.
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    Skeptical that a one year rental of Beli would get us a top 20 pick...

    On the other hand if they want to trade Splitter waiting may be advantageous thanks to the decreasing yearly salaries... Kinda like trading Asik and Lin became harder with the poison pills...

    Everyone seems to forget about the Gortat rumors at the beginning of the season, imo Splitter better have the PO run of his life for him to still be on the team in september... And that if he makes it past the trade deadline...
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    Btw Kyle Anderson is up to #35 on DX, by the time of the draft he might be out of reach... They have Zach LaVine at 29, where we pick, and I gotta say I like what I see, a high risk high reward SG for Ginob's last year would be nice...

    I'd trade Splitter for whoever (maybe an expiring) + picks...

    Draft Anderson and LaVine, sign Vesely.

    TD Vesely
    Diaw Livio
    Kawhi Anderson
    Green Ginob LaVine
    TP LaVine Cojo

    Perfect mix of defensive monkeyballing and offensive finesse. The post D would be quite bad at center but whatever...

    Of course everyone who is any good is gonna rise and we'll be left with scrubs...
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    Does anyone have thoughts on Clint Capela?(Euro posters especially). Good defensive bigs are always valuable, and he apparently blew up with 21p, 9reb, 7as, 6blocks in a french league game recently.

    (http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...t-Capela-4385/)

    While the french league isn't the best, that is a ridiculous line.

    Also, agent is Bouna Ndiaye, who has had players linked to the Spurs in the past.
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    I don't think he should come out this season. Tons of talent, but so many question marks that it's really tough to.project his NBA production. He's too small to play the five, but he can't shoot and so he can't play the four. He has good mobility for defending the PnR. Which of those skills he can refine will determine which position he can play in the NBA. I guess not too different from LJC in that regard. Like LJC, he'd be an intriguing draft-and-stash if he stays in. Withdrawing is a risk if he gets a promise. He could rise significantly like Noguiera did, or he could fall like Jaiteh seems to be doing.
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    Some general thoughts as to our draft needs for next year (yeah, I know, there's time for this AFTER the playoffs... I'm just bored):

    PG: Depends on what we do with Mills. If we re-sign him, we have Parker, Mills and CoJo - we are set. (And remember that Manu plays point too) If we do not re-sign Mills, we need to draft a PG. We need to let DeColo walk.

    SG: Manu, Green and Beli. I expect Manu to be out for stretches with injuries, but that'll be patched by committee.

    SF: Kawhi, Bertans and LJC. I think Bertans and LJC come over and suddenly we are set at SF.

    PF/C: TD, Splitter, Baynes, Ayers (ugh), Diaw: We will be in big need of a stretch 4 to replace Bonner. You don't just draft one and play a stretch 4, they take time to develop. I see the team looking at a vet for that role. Expect limited playing time for TD, so stocking up on the best C would be a great idea. I expect a draft and stash on a C or possibly a PF.

    So there we have it. I suspect our biggest needs are C / PF and a stretch 4. Stretch 4 being the biggest need. If we can't find a replacement Stretch 4, then say o to another year of Bon-Bon.

    Our projected Roster:
    PG: Parker, Mills, Cojo
    SG: Manu, Green, Beli
    SF: Kawhi, Bertans, LJC
    PF: Diaw, Ayers, Draft Pick or Vet for Stretch 4 (it would be nice if we could trade away Ayers, but that is a different conversation)
    C: TD, Splitter, Draft Pick

    The final run for the big 3...
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    I was thinking the Spurs would play Jean-Charles at the 4. Either way, I agree with drafting a big making the most sense if they don't trade the pick. Never too early to speculate about the draft imo
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    Kyle Anderson now up to #28 on DX and that's with every one above him staying in the draft which won't happen... Was good to dream for a while...
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    I was thinking the Spurs would play Jean-Charles at the 4. Either way, I agree with drafting a big making the most sense if they don't trade the pick. Never too early to speculate about the draft imo
    I think he probably will play some 4 with the amount of small ball we do. It would just be nice to have a great array of bigs to play smash mouth ball, old school style.
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    Any thoughts on the Marcus Smart controversy? Shoving a fan and whatnot. He's been projected at various highs and lows, most thinking definitely top ten, but surely he's going to tumble some spots from this. Red flags can drop prospects all the time.
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    I don't think it affects his draft position at all. The fan was a jerk by the accounts that I have read, using racial slurs.

    NBA fans would be escorted out of the building and their season passes cancelled if they tried that crap. Smart will be a top 6 pick in my opinion.
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    Kyle Anderson now up to #28 on DX and that's with every one above him staying in the draft which won't happen... Was good to dream for a while...
    Not sure how much he will rise in the end. I suspect he's not going to have awesome athletic testing results, and his skills aren't "flashy" in a one man workout. Invariably, some athletic wonder-kids will rise, and GMs will fall in love with them... If he doesn't have a strong combine, he will not rise very far in the end...
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