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    Hollinger's power ranking projects the following final standings:



    1 game behind OKC is probably well within the margin of error for Hollinger's model, so it's definitely do-able.

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    Clippers better odds to win it all than OKC and Indiana?

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    I'd take those standings in a heartbeat tbh. Spurs wouldn't have a rough matchup until the WCF at the earliest.

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    Those stats are comletely meaningless until they prove they can beat an elite team. I don't mean Portland without LA or the Clips without CP3.

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    Clippers better odds to win it all than OKC and Indiana?
    Lollinger

    For better or worse his rankings aren't all that useless. IIRC something like 90% of NBA champions have been top 3 in his power rankings in the last 15 years. The only exception? The 2011 Mavs who were ranked 6th on his power rankings going into the post season.

    Spurs have finished top 3 since 2010 and were top 3 during our championship years (it's something like rank 3 in 07, rank 2 in 05, and I forget '03 and I don't know if hollinger had rankings in '99). This year we're currently 5th or 6th.

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    Those stats are comletely meaningless until they prove they can beat an elite team. I don't mean Portland without LA or the Clips without CP3.
    What about the last LAC game?

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    Lollinger

    For better or worse his rankings aren't all that useless. IIRC something like 90% of NBA champions have been top 3 in his power rankings in the last 15 years. The only exception? The 2011 Mavs who were ranked 6th on his power rankings going into the post season.

    Spurs have finished top 3 since 2010 and were top 3 during our championship years (it's something like rank 3 in 07, rank 2 in 05, and I forget '03 and I don't know if hollinger had rankings in '99). This year we're currently 5th or 6th.
    We were leading for a good chunk of time this season. The problem is that the ranking doesn't adjust for injuries or flat out resting/coasting. Last season we were also sitting pretty at the top until Pop decided to start coasting at the end. Still managed to be in game 7 of the Finals.

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    What about the last LAC game?
    Depends.... 1 game out 14 or 15 sounds more like an anomaly to me. Coming into the season, nobody considered them a contender anyways. Many still don't. I'll wait until after they curbstomp Miami before I start throwing around accolades.

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    Depends.... 1 game out 14 or 15 sounds more like an anomaly to me. Coming into the season, nobody considered them a contender anyways. Many still don't. I'll wait until after they curbstomp Miami before I start throwing around accolades.
    They weren't considered contenders the last two seasons either. I don't think winning or losing any regular-season games should change anyone's opinions. The Heat swept the Spurs last RS, but that didn't stop the Spurs from winning three games in the Finals. Memphis split the RS series with the Spurs last year as did the Clippers the year before, but that didn't stop the Spurs from sweeping both in the respective post-seasons.

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    They weren't considered contenders the last two seasons either. I don't think winning or losing any regular-season games should change anyone's opinions. The Heat swept the Spurs last RS, but that didn't stop the Spurs from winning three games in the Finals. Memphis split the RS series with the Spurs last year as did the Clippers the year before, but that didn't stop the Spurs from sweeping both in the respective post-seasons.
    In both head to head meetings vs Miami, neither team played complete. Spurs benched their starters in Game 1 and Miami did the same in game 2, sans Bosh. I think the Spurs reaching the finals had a lot to do with matchups and let's not forget the huge assist from Beverely. Regardless of what the stats might suggest, the Spurs are nowhere near the defensive presence they were last year. This isn't to say the Spurs can't dial it up a notch but they won't beat elite teams if they can't stop perimeter shots. Athletic teams like Houston and OKC can pretty much run circles around this defense. , they're winning games but nearly everyone is a full out struggle... sloppy offense, lazy defensive rotations, etc. Time is running out and the Spurs remainig schedule is brutal compared to the Clips and Rockets. If they're not careful, they could easily slip down to the fifth seed by season's end.

    And Chinook, while you can take RS games with a grain of salt, last year, the Spurs still had signature wins amidst the losses. 23 games left this year and the Spurs are still looking for their first.

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    Clippers better odds to win it all than OKC and Indiana?
    They expecting Granger and Davis to have that much impact?

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    Those stats are comletely meaningless until they prove they can beat an elite team. I don't mean Portland without LA or the Clips without CP3.
    In that Portland game we were missing Duncan, Parker, & Leonard. Its not like we beat them when we were at full strength and they were beat up. We were missing more key players than they were.

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    Nash and Kobe unlikely to return this season

    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...rn-This-Season

    The Lakers are likely to go into "Philadelphia super-tank mode".

    Spurs play them on March 14th, 19th and April 16th (The final night of the regular season)

    2 in San Antonio and 1 in L.A

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    Lol to the Clippers having that great of odds to win it all, Chris Paul will melt down and disappear again.

    I don't think the Spurs really care about #1 seed, this year they've played better on the road than they have at home.

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    Lol to the Clippers having that great of odds to win it all, Chris Paul will melt down and disappear again.

    I don't think the Spurs really care about #1 seed, this year they've played better on the road than they have at home.
    Agree to a point. I don't think it makes a difference where the Spurs play outside of a few arenas against top teams. There are places - namely OKC and Portland - that I wouldn't want to be going four out of seven games.

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    Lol to the Clippers having that great of odds to win it all, Chris Paul will melt down and disappear again.

    I don't think the Spurs really care about #1 seed, this year they've played better on the road than they have at home.
    That only makes them need home court all the more. You can almost guarantee a home loss in a series from the Spurs. It would be extremely difficult to go into OKC needing two victories.

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    That only makes them need home court all the more. You can almost guarantee a home loss in a series from the Spurs. It would be extremely difficult to go into OKC needing two victories.
    All the more reason why they're not beating the Thunder in a series. A reasonable as two back (counting the season series loss) in the loss column sounds, the reality is they were always going to need a lead coming down the stretch to have a chance at the one seed given how differently the two teams navigate the regular season.

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    They expecting Granger and Davis to have that much impact?
    Lollinger emphasizes point differential and strength of schedule.

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    Lebron with 61 tonight. Miami 8 straight and 9-1 in last 10. Heres hoping Miami doesn't get red hot again. Around the same time, last season, Miami reeled off 27 straight games.

    Next 10 Games:

    @ Rockets
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    Spurs 43-16/ Miami-43-14 (Spurs 1 game back)

    If the Spurs get that far (back to the Finals) home court is essential

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    Spurs 43-16/ Miami-43-14 (Spurs 1 game back)

    If the Spurs get that far (back to the Finals) home court is essential
    How are the Spurs 1 game back when Miami have two less losses.

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    How are the Spurs 1 game back when Miami have two less losses.
    That's how GB are calculated. Each win counts as half a game, and each loss as minus a half game. So the Heat have 14.5 games (translates 29 games over .500) while the Spurs have 13.5 (27 games over .500). Therefore, the Spurs are one game back.

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    The losses tend to matter more than the wins for good teams; you can always add wins but you can't subtract losses.

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    with Portland still playing tonight

    WESTERN W L PCT GB HOME ROAD DIV CONF PF PA DIFF STRK L10
    1 Oklahoma City 46 15 .754 - 26-6 20-9 9-5 27-9 105.4 98.5 +6.9 Won 3 6-4
    2 San Antonio 44 16 .733 1 ½ 21-8 23-8 9-3 25-10 104.3 98.0 +6.2 Won 4 8-2
    3 Houston 42 19 .689 4 24-7 18-12 9-4 23-16 106.3 101.7 +4.7 Won 3 8-2
    4 LA Clippers 42 20 .677 4 ½ 25-5 17-15 6-4 25-11 107.2 100.7 +6.5 Won 5 8-2
    5 Portland 41 19 .683 4 ½ 23-8 18-11 12-3 23-15 107.8 103.0 +4.8 Lost 1 6-4
    6 Golden State 38 24 .613 8 ½ 18-10 20-14 8-4 21-16 103.3 98.6 +4.7 Won 2 7-3
    7 Phoenix 35 25 .583 10 ½ 21-12 14-13 7-4 22-17 105.2 102.4 +2.8 Lost 1 5-5
    8 Dallas 36 26 .581 10 ½ 19-10 17-16 9-5 18-17 104.5 102.4 +2.1 Lost 3 5-5

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    Spurs 1 1/2 back of best record in NBA.


    Still 2 1/2 ahead of Houston, for the 2nd seed in the West.

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    WESTERN W L PCT GB HOME ROAD DIV CONF PF PA DIFF STRK L10
    1 Oklahoma City 46 16 .742 - 26-6 20-10 9-5 27-10 105.7 99.0 +6.7 Lost 1 6-4
    2 San Antonio 45 16 .738 ½ 22-8 23-8 9-3 25-10 104.4 97.9 +6.5 Won 5 8-2
    3 Houston 42 19 .689 3 ½ 24-7 18-12 9-4 23-16 106.3 101.7 +4.7 Won 3 8-2
    4 LA Clippers 42 20 .677 4 25-5 17-15 6-4 25-11 107.2 100.7 +6.5 Won 5 8-2
    5 Portland 42 19 .689 3 ½ 24-8 18-11 12-3 23-15 107.7 102.6 +5.2 Won 1 6-4
    6 Golden State 38 24 .613 8 18-10 20-14 8-4 21-16 103.3 98.6 +4.7 Won 2 7-3
    7 Phoenix 36 25 .590 9 ½ 22-12 14-13 7-4 23-17 105.5 102.7 +2.8 Won 1 6-4
    8 Dallas 36 26 .581 10 19-10 17-16 9-5 18-17 104.5 102.4 +2.1 Lost 3 5-5
    Memphis 34 26 .567 11 18-14 16-12 2-11 19-19 95.7 95.2 +0.5 Lost 1 7-3

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