Tony Gwynn Dies of Cancer

[Dick Jones]

so many people asshurt that i tell the truth about this overrated cancer-ridden dead singles slapper.

[IrisHockey]

Mono's right imo, Gwynn is overrated once you look past the elementary stats and dig into advanced metrics..

[IrisHockey]

I don't know how you win multiple GG's with a career negative dWAR ..

[ducks]

Mono's right imo, Gwynn is overrated once you look past the elementary stats and dig into advanced metrics..

BULL

[Infinite_limit]

Mono's right imo, Gwynn is overrated once you look past the elementary stats and dig into advanced metrics..

If you put together a batting order of 9 Tony's, it would be unstoppable.

[Clipper Nation]

Gwynn was awesome, but the fact that he's in the Hall of Fame and Tim Raines isn't is a joke....

[DMC]

Chewing tobacco is a of a drug

So is black semen just ask your ex wife.

[Infinite_limit]

Gwynn was awesome, but the fact that he's in the Hall of Fame and Tim Raines isn't is a joke....

They are on different levels. Comparing Garrett Anderson to Manny Ramirez

[Clipper Nation]

They are on different levels. Comparing Garrett Anderson to Manny Ramirez

During his time with the Expos, Raines was routinely among the best (or even the best) in the NL at drawing walks, getting steals, OBP, runs scored, getting doubles and triples... from 1981-1990, he led the National League in WAR.... he scored more runs and got on base more often in his career than Gwynn....

The only thing keeping Raines out is the old-fashioned (and dumb) idea that hitting a bunch of singles is somehow better than drawing walks....

Granted, as an Expos fan, I'm biased, but your analogy is poor....

[Infinite_limit]

During his time with the Expos, Raines was routinely among the best (or even the best) in the NL at drawing walks, getting steals, OBP, runs scored, getting doubles and triples... from 1981-1990, he led the National League in WAR.... he scored more runs and got on base more often in his career than Gwynn....

The only thing keeping Raines out is the old-fashioned (and dumb) idea that hitting a bunch of singles is somehow better than drawing walks....

Granted, as an Expos fan, I'm biased, but your analogy is poor....

I agree but he played 23 seasons and you only referenced 9 of them. As a quick comparison Tim made 7 All Star teams, none after 1987. Tony made the All Star game 15 outta 20 seasons.

Baseball-Reference compares him to Kenny Loften

AVG 162 game season
Raines: .294 BA, .810 OPS, 52 SBs, 169 H's, 63 RBI's, 102 R's
Loften: .299 BA, .794 OPS, 48 SBs, 187 H's, 60 RBI's, 118 R's

Kenny also has 4 Gold Gloves

[Aztecfan03]

During his time with the Expos, Raines was routinely among the best (or even the best) in the NL at drawing walks, getting steals, OBP, runs scored, getting doubles and triples... from 1981-1990, he led the National League in WAR.... he scored more runs and got on base more often in his career than Gwynn....

The only thing keeping Raines out is the old-fashioned (and dumb) idea that hitting a bunch of singles is somehow better than drawing walks....

Granted, as an Expos fan, I'm biased, but your analogy is poor....

Gwynn had better batting average, on-base percentage, and slugging percentage.

Gwynn had more singles and less walks. (Also had half the strikeouts)

If Raines not being in is a joke, it has nothing to do with Gwynn.