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Pay ing attention, Insanity
the Repugs failed all imm reform from 2001 to 2006, while in full control of govt
the Repugs have BLOCKED all imm reform since Jan 2009
Obama is to blame for Repugs blocking imm reform? GFY
Does this guy ever take responsibility for anything? All he's done is blame blame blame. And surprise surprise....he'll side step congress again. His term could not end soon enough.
Pay ing attention, Insanity
the Repugs failed all imm reform from 2001 to 2006, while in full control of govt
the Repugs have BLOCKED all imm reform since Jan 2009
Obama is to blame for Repugs blocking imm reform? GFY
You're just like your dear leader blame blame blame.
Any immigration policy is pointless if you don't have a secure border and don't enforce the policy.
Agree or disagree?
Step 1: secure the border
Step 2 Start a work visa program (not a citizenship program) for South American countries you have to go to your home country's US embassy to get
Correct.
The only reform necessary is to kick all the illegals OUT, no questions asked, end of story....
Why didn't you and Repugs WHINE and PISS about closing the border, why didn't y'all ACTUALLY DO IT, from 2001 to 2008?
How many $10Bs are you willing to spend to close the border that meets your requirements?
and how many $100Bs are you ready to spend it maintain such closure indefinitely?
The Repugs KNOW the border can't be sealed perfectly, so by delaying all imm reform until the unachievable is achieved, they're ING LYING
Boutons, why the surge of illegals now? What is your plan? Try to not play the blame game with this next response, try to be different than your dear leader for once.
Notice how Boutons couldn't even respond to this truthbomb, tbh....
you're just ASKING to be slapped. You man enough for it?
still waiting....
I think it is just the opposite. Get a sensible immigration policy that allows the migrant workers we need to come over legally first. Otherwise we'll spend lot's of resources trying to stop people who should be allowed to come over.
Didn't Obama have a Democratic Congress in 2009?
one of the things i noticed when i went to kickapoo casin were all the border patrol. i noticed all the trucks on the border were all f350. all of them. i understand u need those types of vehicles for heavy duty towing but damn. thats a 50-60K vehicle when a f140 4x4 would do just as fine.
Some of them Mexicans are pretty damn heavy.
No, you also need to put people in jail for hiring them too.
Obama is always going to blame because he's never been a leader before his current gig and he's got a lot of daddy issues. Plus politicians in general hate accountability.
both parties have been terrible with immigration. I despised Bush's handling of it but Obama is even worse. This mass arrival of illegals seems planned and manipulated by the higher ups though. definitely something rotten in Denver.
I don't trust either party, especially with this issue. It will be interesting what uncons utional Obama will pull, because I'm sensing serious frustration from the legit citizens. Cantor getting his pushed in is proof of this.
Wacky conspiracy theories are always right....fact remains, Obama has repatriated more illegals than any President, Republican or Democrat, before him...if Government really wanted to get serious about immigration reform it would get tough on employers who hire the illegals and make sure there are enough visas to cover the agricultural seasonal workers....GOP likes the way things are now....it's CEO's get the fruit of cheap labor and they can manipulate their loyal FAUX News crowd into believing that this is an Obama/Democrat conspiracy theory...both parties have been terrible with immigration. I despised Bush's handling of it but Obama is even worse. This mass arrival of illegals seems planned and manipulated by the higher ups though. definitely something rotten in Denver.
Gheen: Immigrants 'May Smile At You As They Hand You Your Cheeseburger' But They Really Want 'You And Your Whole Family To Die'
Submitted by Miranda Blue on Monday, 6/30/2014 4:47 pm
- See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten....PVFEPd6M.dpufIn an interview with the Tea Party News Network on Saturday, William Gheen of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC) claimed that Mexican American immigrants “may smile at you as they serve you your cheeseburger or peruse across your law with a weed eater” but in reality they want “for you and your whole family to die.” Gheen claimed that Mexican schools teach students to hate America, so those who immigrate to the U.S. show “no type of mercy” to “anyone out there that’s not a flaming socialist, communist or liberal” and will vote Democratic, based on “racial iden y” and “what they consider to be reparations.”
you right-wingers are reliably, amazingly stupid
daddy issues? psychobabble!
Misassigning Blame for Immigration Crisis
What has been markedly different about the current surge is that it is coming from three Central American countries, not Mexico, and it largely involves unaccompanied children, not adult men looking for jobs.
At first, the administration blamed “rising levels of violence in Central America,” as it did in aJune 9 press release announcing that Fort Sill will be the third military base to house unaccompanied children who crossed the border illegally. There is evidence that supports that claim, based on interviews the New York Times did with those who illegally crossed the border. But the Times’ article showed the surge has been fueled by rumors about “permits.”
New York Times, June 16: While most men are held and processed quickly for deportation, border authorities struggling to manage the influx have been releasing pregnant women and parents with young children, allowing them to join family members living here and issuing them a deportation hearing notice. Migrants have sent word back home they received a “permit” to remain at least temporarily in the United States, feeding rumors along migrant routes and spurring others to embark on the long journey.
During the June 20 conference call with reporters, administration officials acknowledged that false rumors of “permits” were fueling the crisis, and they vowed to take action to counter the misinformation. The Times wrote:
New York Times, June 20: Until now, White House officials have insisted that extreme poverty and an epidemic of gang violence in those Central American countries were the main causes of the unanticipated e in illegal migration.
But many migrants also told Border Patrol agents they decided to set out for the United States after hearing that it was offering some kind of entry permit. Many other migrants who asked for asylum after being apprehended have been allowed to stay temporarily, further fueling hopes that Central American women and children were receiving special treatment.
On a conference call with reporters, Cecilia Muñoz, director of the White House Domestic Policy Council, said the administration was moving to “push back” on “misinformation that is being deliberately planted by criminal organizations, by smuggling networks, about what people can expect if they come to the United States.”
The DACA policy was an executive action taken without congressional approval. It was implemented by the Department of Homeland Security on June 15, 2012 — about one yearbefore the Senate vote on amnesty. In a precursor to the DACA, the director of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement a year earlier — on June 17, 2011 — issued a memothat said immigration agents should use “prosecutorial discretion” when deciding whom to detain and deport. That policy — again taken without congressional approval — urged the deportation of those with criminal records before students, military veterans and others deemed to be low risk.
We don’t know how the rumors got started and whether the president’s actions or inactions are to blame.
But, even if you accept the Republican premise, it still does not follow that the president “created this crisis only after Lamar Alexander voted for amnesty.” There is no evidence of a causal relationship between a Senate immigration bill that never became law and a current surge of Central Americans crossing the Southwest border.
Correction, June 30: The original article misstated who would have been eligible to apply for provisional legal status and, ultimately, citizenship under the Border Security, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Modernization Act. The act would apply only to those who were living illegally in the U.S. before 2012.
http://www.factcheck.org/2014/06/mis...ration-crisis/
iow, if ANYTHING (bad) HAPPENS, Repugs' automatic tactic is to BLAME OBAMA, in parallel with OBSTRUCTING EVERYTHING THE DEMS PROPOSE.
This means that even if Obama/Dems do screw up (CC, etc can provide specifics!
What’s the Reality?
In fact, desperate Central American parents are exploiting separate legal loopholes in American border security passed before Obama took office.
Unaccompanied minors fall under the bipartisan law, William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, which passed the House and Senate unanimously and was signed into law by President George W. Bush.
That law says the children cannot be sent back. They must instead be held humanely by the Department of Health and Human Services until the courts release them to a “suitable family member” in this country.
The child “shall be promptly placed in the least restrictive setting that is in the best interest of the child,” the law stipulates. “Placement of child trafficking victims may include placement in an Unaccompanied Refugee Minor program … if a suitable family member is not available to provide care.”
Department of Homeland Security (DHS) sources say more than 80 percent of these children will find permanent homes in the U.S., with either family or foster homes and not be sent back to Central America.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-wave-u-s-law/
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