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    A PG doesn't make crippling decisions down the stretch. CP3 officially removed himself from consideration with that boneheaded three attempt in the backcourt and being anywhere near Russ' elbow. Then he doesn't even get a shot off.

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    Should've just held on to the damn ball. That was their game to win. I feel like this series is over. Okc here we come

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    Should've just held on to the damn ball. That was their game to win. I feel like this series is over. Okc here we come
    More like SA here OKC comes and the Refs! Since the series starts in SA they will come to the Spurs HC and bring some refs with them.

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    Chris Paul is the best PG in the league by a pretty wide margin. Last year you could make the case Parker was right there with him, but this year not even close.

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    Chris Paul is the best PG in the league by a pretty wide margin. Last year you could make the case Parker was right there with him, but this year not even close.
    what the did he do to prove that? throw a bunch of meaningless alley oops in regular season?

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    Chris Paul is the best PG in the league by a pretty wide margin. Last year you could make the case Parker was right there with him, but this year not even close.
    It's not the first time he lost his cool at the end of the 4th to lose a game (remember the Gary Neal steal as CP3 was trying to avoid a backcourt violation). He is undisciplined, and his high assist rate comes mostly from handing the ball over to someone who's immediately going to chuck a contested shot (and pray it goes in).

    The league has access to advanced metrics now, such as % of contested shots. I wonder how many of CP3 assists come from contested shots (meaning there's no real assist, it might as well be an ISO play).

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    Chris Paul is the best PG in the league by a pretty wide margin. Last year you could make the case Parker was right there with him, but this year not even close.
    Jalen Rose had a stat on Parker a couple of games ago that reported that he was one of 5 guards in the history of the NBA who 1) Had at least 3 rings, 2)had a Finals MVP, 3) shot around 50% for his career, and there was a 4th but I don't remember it right now. I think it was averaging 5 assists or something.

    Two of other four to accomplish that were : Magic Johnson and Dwayne Wade. He named the others but I don't remember the names right now.

    Parker is consistently under-rated on this board.

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    Playmaking wise yes, he's better than everyone else. But scoring wise guys like Parker, Westbrook, Curry are superior. I still think he's the best PG in the NBA.

    Oh and Parker is also not really known as the best closer.

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    Oh and Parker is also not really known as the best closer.
    That's a reputation. CP3 has the reputation of being clutch and that means nothing when the game is actually on the line. That's the whole point of saying that CP3 is overrated and Parker is underrated: reputations.

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    parker in the last two years clearly, nobody stood out this season, so by default cp3 has that post, in the playoffs so far has to go to Russell, the guy is a beast. If I'm starting a franchise, I'm going with rondo

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    I may be wrong, but it seems to me that Parker has outplayed CP3 several times when the teams play. Doesn't mean that CP3 is a bad pg, or that he isn't more valuable to his own team, but they each play within very different systems, imo.

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    Chris Paul is the best PG in the league by a pretty wide margin. Last year you could make the case Parker was right there with him, but this year not even close.
    Your grey is showing.

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    Got to hand it to CP3 for totally placing blame on himself, not refs. He said he made the worst decisions of his career in last minute of that game. He accepted the blame, 100%.

    I respect that.


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    TP's been the best point guard in the game for the last 4 years. Only the global media and a few disgruntled Parker haters on Spurstalk don't know that.

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    TP's been the best point guard in the game for the last 4 years. Only the global media and a few disgruntled Parker haters on Spurstalk don't know that.
    what the have you been watching. He has an argument for maybe the last 2 years.

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    CP3 Stats for this year- 19 pts, 10.7 assists

    TP- 16.7 pts 5.7 assists

    Got to say, the stats point to Paul being better PG.

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    CP3 Stats for this year- 19 pts, 10.7 assists

    TP- 16.7 pts 5.7 assists

    Got to say, the stats point to Paul being better PG.
    Stats don't tell the whole story. Pop has had TP play less minutes to keep him fresh for the playoffs and to help him recover from playing basketball all summer. See if Paul played more or less minutes than TP. Also, who took more shots, and what was the shooting percentage? That said, Paul is a great point guard, but I'd rather have TP in a big game.

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    Nobody can watch all games, so stats is what most people use as measure of who is best at something.

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    CP3 Stats for this year- 19 pts, 10.7 assists

    TP- 16.7 pts 5.7 assists

    Got to say, the stats point to Paul being better PG.
    ... per 48 minutes?

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    ... per 48 minutes?
    That per 48 min stat is bullcrap. Baynes is better than Griffin according to that stat.

    If Your PG can not play most of the game, then who cares if he is better than anyone. It's what you do for the whole game that really matters, right?

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    If Your PG can not play most of the game, then who cares if he is better than anyone. It's what you do for the whole game that really matters, right?
    Keep grasping at straws.

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    Keep grasping at straws.

    You don't think 10.7 is better than 5.7 assists?

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    CP3 plays 35 mins per game (0.3 assists per min)

    TP plays 29 mins ( 0.19 assists per min)

    You lose the per 48 min arguement anyway

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    CP3 plays 35 mins per game (0.3 assists per min)

    TP plays 29 mins ( 0.19 assists per min)

    You lose the per 48 min arguement anyway
    Stats are so overblown. If you want to look purely at averages, Greivis Vazquez was the best PG in the league in 2012-13 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/...3_leaders.html). Paul is clearly one of the top few in the league but his assist numbers are in part a product of playing in a ball dominant role whereas TP plays in a motion offense with a lot of passing / hockey assists.

    These stats are also what make people anoint Harden as the best SG in the league even though he's the basketball equivalent of a DH in baseball.

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    You don't think 10.7 is better than 5.7 assists?
    This completely depends on the system. Watch the games and check how discombobulated the Clippers offense is, and how little CP3 actually sets his teammates up. Stagnant offense + pass by CP3 for an instantly jacked up shot by recipient is a great way to rack up assists, and yet have an offense that still mostly sucks.

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