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Still believe Spurs will waive Ayres and re-sign Baynes.
Would f#ck the girl in the black and green skirt and Predator hair tbh.
Still believe Spurs will waive Ayres and re-sign Baynes.
You think the Spurs are trying to trade him first? Don't know how you'd go about calling other GMs about it though, especially after Summer League, as I'm sure most of the GMs would have seen him play.
Marion would up the spurs spacing. Pass
I'm sure they are, but it's pretty inevitable Spurs would have to give up an asset(s) in order to get a team to take on Ayres -- kind of like how they had to include Scola's rights to get rid of Jackie Butler.
Not very wise to give away assets to get rid of Ayres, when they can just waive him without any severe/significant repercussions (they're well under luxury tax, with the MLE available to use even after they re-sign Baynes).
i wouldn't give the full MLE for marion...
Marion still has it. He shut down Parker for like the first 3 games or so. Mavs should try to keep him for less. But he would be a great backup for Leonard.
We need to get Marion. Dude is still an elite defender and he can play small ball PF or SF. Like some guys said, he can defend Lebron or durant when Kawhi is in foul trouble.
He shoots like chit. but he's only going to be taken open shots anyways. Like I have said earlier, we went 8-8 when Kawhi was hurt, but not only because Kawhi is a very great player,
but that we didn't have an actual backup SF and it exposed us. That was our only problem last season. 8 mil for 2 years I would do. This guy is still a starter at 30mpg. He would beast at 20mpg.
And he is a vet so you know he won't shrink in the playoffs.
I would take Blatche for the MLE in a heartbeat....
...if he were happy with ~24 minutes a night.
Marion's stats were decent last year but his PER and WS/48 both dropped heavily, and he'll be what, 36 going into next season?
...and Manu is STILL the backup SF. I don't understand where people think Marion's minutes would come from unless you've given up on Beli and want him to sit on the bench for $ next year.
TP/(Patty)/Cojo
Green/Beli/Manu/(Patty)
Leonard/Manu/Green
Duncan/Diaw/Bonner
Splitter/Baynes/Ayres
If Patty were healthy and Bonner/Ayres weren't stealing money, the hole in that rotation is very obviously at backup 5.
Marion is the primary defender for his teams. Of course his per and ws/48 would be low. And for the last time, Manu is not a backup SF.
Read.
I didn't say they were low, I said they dropped. As in, he had career lows in PER and WS/48 last year.
Read.
And Manu and Marco were our backup SG/SF last year. IDGAF what you want to call either of them.
I call them bandaids. Not a long term solution.
But 36 year old Shawn Marion is a solution?
lolwut
For a season or 2 yeah. He did play great in the playoffs.
Did you not miss that or something?
He shot 22% from three and the Mavericks were were better with him off the court. And that's with Vince Carter and Jae Crowder replacing him.
You grab a specific statline and pat yourself on the back.
He shot 22% from three and the Mavericks were were better with him off the court. And that's with Vince Carter and Jae Crowder replacing him.
Fact is he played great and we went to 7 vs the Mavs and you can't deny that.
Before anyone starts bringing up ws/48 and per, Boris Diaw had an actual negative ws/48 in the regular season and playoffs before he joined the spurs.
Shawn Marion can also be that type of player that can benefit by playing with the Spurs. Experience is key here.
I don't mind the move but , I really don't care too much about the possibility.
On a one year deal, this fossilized relic would make sense I suppose. But otherwise, meh.
You do realize that WS/48 is ACTUALLY based on wins, right? If you have a negative WS/48 on a team like Charlotte, that's not necessarily bad, but on a WC playoff team like Dallas? Not so good.
Advanced stats say other wise.You grab a specific statline and pat yourself on the back.
Fact is he played great and we went to 7 vs the Mavs and you can't deny that.
P.E.R-12.5
Win Shares Per 48 Minutes-.52 (.100 is league average)
Net Rtg- -6
its worse than his regular season numbers.
WS are wins produced by the team. WS/48 is per 48 and not all players can play 48(ex. manu)
You do know Marion is primarily a defender right? He makes Bruce Bowen look like trash if you compare their adv. numbers like PER and WS/48.
You do know winshares is not a catch-all-productivity-stat to a team right?
All I'm saying is if you come at me with stats and no context, you're not doing it right then.
Why did we pick up boris? Dam those stats without context.
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