Tracy Jordan? Aka Tracy Morgan's character on 30 Rock? Or, are you referring to someone else?
She's mad at life for not being born with a , imho.
Tracy Jordan? Aka Tracy Morgan's character on 30 Rock? Or, are you referring to someone else?
...lol. Tracy Morgan. that dude.
Well, is out of the hospital, so maybe we can pitch the idea to him. Months of rehab and recovery might put him the Aunt Jemima weight range naturally.
Superman is about to have a black boss...what does this girl want?
Blacks have to have equal representation to whites in these movies to show equality so it doesn't matter that 75% of the population is white. I think the black population in america is only 10-12 percent but I have to say that they have to be equal in numbers in whites in Hollywood to show progress. Some of you guys say what about asians,hispanics,indians having equal representation and I have to say those races don't mean anything nobody gives a about them but people do care about black people in entertainment.
all trolling aside, its a backwards method of thinking. race inherently means nothing outside of physical appearance. culture, upbringing, ethnicity/nationality, religion, socioeconomics are much more significant than race. i tend to go on about it mostly to counter your shtick/agenda, but anybody actually giving priority to race is stuck living in the 17 and 1800s
Exactly what I said above. Blacks play the leadership role. Post Obama America
you have got to be trolling
"In this regard it is interesting to note that limb proportions of Predynastic Naqada people in Upper Egypt are reported to be "Super-Negroid," meaning that the distal segments are
elongated in the fashion of tropical Africans.....skin color intensification and distal limb elongation are apparent wherever people have been long-term residents of the tropics." (-- C.L. Brace, 1993. Clines and clusters..")
"Analysis of crania is the traditional approach to assessing ancient population origins, relationships, and diversity. In studies based on anatomical traits and measurements of crania, similarities have been found between Nile Valley crania from 30,000, 20,000 and 12,000 years ago and various African remains from more recent times (see Thoma 1984; Brauer and Rimbach 1990; Angel and Kelley 1986; Keita 1993). Studies of crania from southern predynastic Egypt, from the formative period (4000-3100 B.C.), show them usually to be more similar to the crania of ancient Nubians, Kushytes, Saharans, or modern groups from the Horn of Africa than to those of dynastic northern Egyptians or ancient or modern southern Europeans." (S. O. Y and A.J. Boyce, "The Geographical Origins and Population Relationships of Early Ancient Egyptians", in Egypt in Africa, Theodore Celenko (ed), Indiana University Press, 1996, pp. 20-33)
"The raw values in Table 6 suggest that Egyptians
had the "super-Negroid" body plan described by
Robins (1983).. This pattern is supported by Figure 7
(a plot of population mean femoral and tibial lengths;
data from Ruff, 1994), which indicates that the
Egyptians generally have tropical body plans. Of the
Egyptian samples, only the Badarian and Early
Dynastic period populations have shorter tibiae than
predicted from femoral length. Despite these
differences, all samples lie relatively clustered
together as compared to the other populations."
(Zakrzewski, S.R.(2003). "Variation in ancient
Egyptian stature and body proportions". American
Journal of Physical Anthropology 121 (3): 219-229
"Intralimb (crural and brachial) indices are
significantly higher in ancient Egyptians than in
American Whites (except crural index among
females), i.e., Egyptians have relatively longer distal
segments (Table 4). Intralimb indices are not
significantly different between Egyptians and
American Blacks... Many of those who have studied
ancient Egyptians have commented on their
characteristically ''tropical'' or ''African'' body plan
(Warren, 1897; Masali, 1972; Robins, 1983; Robins
and Shute, 1983, 1984, 1986; Zakrzewski, 2003).
Egyptians also fall within the range of modern
African populations (Ruff and Walker, 1993), but
close to the upper limit of modern Europeans as well,
at least for the crural index (brachial indices are
definitely more ''African'').. In terms of femoral and
tibial length to total skeletal height proportions, we
found that ancient Egyptians are significantly
different from US Blacks, although still closer to
Blacks than to Whites.
Comparisons of linear body proportions of Old
Kingdom and non-Old Kingdom period individuals,
and workers and high officials in our sample found
no statistically significant differences among them.
Zakrzewski (2003) also found little evidence for
differences in linear body proportions of Egyptians
over a wider temporal range. In general, recent
studies of skeletal variation among ancient Egyptians
support scenarios of biological continuity through
time. Irish (2006) analyzed quan ative and
qualitative dental traits of 996 Egyptians from
Neolithic through Roman periods, reporting the
presence of a few outliers but concluding that the
dental samples appear to be largely geneous
and that the affinities observed indicate overall
biological uniformity and continuity from Predynastic
through Dynastic and Postdynastic periods.
Zakrzewski (2007) provided a comprehensive
summary of previous Egyptian craniometric studies
and examined Egyptian crania from six time periods.
She found that the earlier samples were relatively
more geneous in comparison to the later
groups. However, overall results indicated genetic
continuity over the Egyptian Predynastic and Early
Dynastic periods, albeit with a high level of genetic
diversity within the population, suggesting an
indigenous process of state formation. She also
concluded that while the biological patterning of the
Egyptian population varied across time, no consistent
temporal or spatial trends are apparent. Thus, the
stature estimation formulae developed here may be
broadly applicable to all ancient Egyptian
populations.."
("Stature estimation in ancient Egyptians: A new
technique based on anatomical reconstruction of
stature." Mic e H. Raxter, Christopher B. Ruff,
Ayman Azab, Moushira Erfan, Muhammad Soliman,
Aly El-Sawaf,(Am J Phys Anthropol. 2008,
Jun;136(2):147-55
Conclusion
To sum up, Nubia is Egypt’s African ancestor. What linked Ancient Egypt to the rest of the North African cultures is this strong tie with the Nubian pastoral nomadic lifestyle, the same pastoral background commonly shared by most of the ancient Saharan and modern sub-Saharan societies. Thus, not only did Nubia have a prominent role in the origin of Ancient Egypt, it was also a key area for the origin of the entire African pastoral tradition.
http://www.academia.edu/545582/The_..._Africa_A_View_from_the_Archaeological_Reco rd
Ancient Egypt and Ancient Egyptians were an indigenous product of Africa, and Nubia was the African ancestor of that civilization (not Berbers, not Arabs, most certainly not Europeans but the Nubians to the south). The National Geographic also dedicated a page to Egypt's origins on their webpage which was written by S.O.Y. Keita a couple of years earlier which correlates with Gatto:
The Neolithic cultures in northern Egypt show evidence over time of varying contacts, with Saharan influences the most dominant. In the case of food procurement, ancestral Egyptians living on Lake Fayum added to their tradition of foraging by raising Near Eastern domesticated plants (wheat and barley) and animals (sheep and goats). Domesticated cattle came from the Sahara but may also have come from the Near East. Considering that wheat and barley agriculture was practiced in Asia (the Near East) 2,000 years before it was in Egypt, it is important to note that the early Egyptian way of life did not change abruptly at this time (around 5000 B.C.), which is what one would expect if Egypt had simply been peopled by farmers migrating from the Near East. These early Egyptians incorporated the new food stuffs and techniques—and likely some people—into their culture and society on their own terms.The major features of cultural and political development that led to dynastic Egypt originated in southern Egypt during what is called the predynastic period. Some evidence suggests that predynastic Egyptian and early Nubian cultures had ties to the early Saharan cultures and shared a Saharo-Nilotic heritage. Perhaps the earliest predynastic culture, the Badarian-Tasian* (4400 B.C. or earlier, to 4000 B.C.), had the clearest ties to Saharan cultures in the desert west of Nubia.
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ge.../Ancient_Egypt
This is interesting because since the interest in Nile Valley civilizations and particularly Egypt, for false racial reasons Nubia was seen as the less accomplished "black" neighboring civilization to the south and as such was shunned for centuries by Western historians. In reality both civilizations were of the same Saharan-Nilotic African origins, which would logically mean that both were black. A recent NYtimes article makes mention of these racist inaccuracies:
More recently, our own Western prejudices — namely the idea that geographic Egypt was not a part of “black” Africa — have contributed to the dearth of knowledge about Nubia. The early-20th-century archaeologist George Reisner, for instance, identified large burial mounds at the site of Kerma as the remains of high Egyptian officials instead of those of Nubian kings. (Several of Reisner’s finds are in the show, reattributed to the Nubians.
In one of his catalog essays the archaeologist Geoff Emberling, who conceived the show along with Jennifer Chi of the ins ute, examines some of these historical errors.
“We now recognize that populations of Nubia and Egypt form a continuum rather than clearly distinct groups,” Mr. Emberling writes, “and that it is impossible to draw a line between Egypt and Nubia that would indicate where ‘black’ begins.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/a...ms-of-africa-review.html?_r=3&pagewanted=all&
So with all of the above being pointed out, I would like to ask the following questions:
1) Shouldn't Nubia's detrimental role in the development of World civilization become more recognized by the media (Nat Geo, Discovery ect)?
2) If Egypt and Nubia were clearly of the same biological and cultural origins then why do some people assert that one was "definitely" black and the other was some unknown very dark skinned "Caucasoid" race? Logically wouldn't both biologically indistinguishable neighboring tropical African populations both be black?
3) How much mainstream contemporary evidence does a theory have to have before it is no longer considered "fringe" (or in this case "Afrocentric") and accepted and presented to masses (via the media) as mainstream?
NUCLEAR DNA
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Nubians cluster closest to Egyptians than Arab cluster to Egyptians. So Nubians are more related to Egyptians than Arabs are:
http://www.investigativegenetics.com...e/F6?highres=y
Ancient Egyptians & Nubians were the closest related peoples to each other. Nile valley civilizations, a river that flows northwards.
Today modern North Sudanese are closest related to Egyptians which is said to correlate with historic close relations between the two who share the longest border.
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Quote:
''Individuals from northern Sudan clustered together with those from Egypt, and individuals from southern Sudan clustered with those from the Karamoja population (Uganda). The similarity of the Nubian and Egyptian populations suggest that migration, potentially bidirectional, occurred along the Nile river Valley, which is consistent with the historical evidence for long-term interactions between Egypt and Nubia.''
Source (Result; 5th sentence):
http://www.investigativegenetics.com/content/2/1/12#abs
Quote:
''The patterns of population structure we found in northeast Africa, in particular the similarity of Nubian (a northern Sudanese group that speak Nilo-Saharan languages) and the Egyptian population. Is consistent with the historical evidence for long-term interactions between Egypt and Nubia, probably resulting in genetic flow between the two regions.''
Stronger evidence points to the relation between Ancient Egypt & Nubia to of occurred before the establishment of those civilizations in the ''late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene'' periods.As opposed to Egyptians & Nubian civilizations conquering each other later.
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Quote:
''However, a synthesis of evidence from archaeology, historical linguistics, texts, distribution of haplotypes outside Egypt, and some demographic considerations lends greater support to the establishment, before the Middle Kingdom, of the observed distributions of the most prevalent haplotypes V, XI, and IV. It is suggested that the pattern of diversity for these variants in the Egyptian NILE VALLEY was largely the product of population events that occurred in the late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene through the First Dynasty, and was sustained by continuous smaller-scale bidirectional migrations/interactions. The higher frequency of V in Ethiopia than in Nubia or upper (southern) Egypt has to be taken into account in any discussion of variation in the NILE VALLEY.''
Source:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16136533
Cradle of medicine was in Ancient Egypt and Nubia...
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Quote:
''The Cradle of the history of medicine in the Old World is to be found in Ancient Egypt and Nubia.''
Source:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...034196/?page=1
First written clinical records came from Ancient Egypt & Nubia
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Quote:
''The earliest written clinical record was produced in Ancient Egypt and Nubia as two medical do ents or papyri which were discovered in 1862''
Source (2nd paragraph):
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...034196/?page=3
Quote:
''Egypt and Nubia have low and similar amounts of divergence for both mtDNA types, which is consistent with historical evidence for long-term interactions between Egypt and Nubia.''
Source:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10090902
DNA TESTS CONDUCTED ON KING TUT PROVES HE WAS BLACK
taking pride in somebody that shares your skin tone is no more absurd than taking pride in somebody that has the same shape of nose, or some other arbitrary trait
i don't know why you would want to counter me pointing out blantant and hidden racism whenever i point it out. if it doesn't apply, let it fly.
anyways, this country is inherently racist fam. it is what it is.
^^^
skimmed through it
because i'm having fun on an internet forum. and please dont give me crocodile tears you are one of the strongest race-baiters on spurstalk.
as for the country being inherently racist, i dont care. i dont change the way i think because thats how the country is, and neither should you. then again you place priority on race in most conversation topics so your thought process is precisely what i think is ridiculous
its irrelevant. all this to prove the skin tone of people that lived 2000 years ago. who gives a damn
This usually applies in multicultural areas but even there people gravitate towards people that look like them. Maybe in the future when for example Rap is no longer dominated by Blacks then we can move past race. But in the mean time races still gravitate towards stereotypes.
i agree with this to a degree. even in LA which is considered to be a liberal area you still see vast majority of couples/families being racially genous, so the culture/ethnicity often times is exclusive or prominent in racial groups. but regardless, race itself is inherently meaningless. you can take a black infant and have it raised by a white family in a "white" environment and the kid will grow up and will be just like all the white kids. and vice versa
i just find it funny that people in the 21st century still take pride over their skin tone
for instance there's this black dude on campus who used to always play madden or 2k and i'd always offer to give him a match. was a good dude, funny guy. he adds me on facebook and i get a look of the he posts/reposts and its just ridiculous like this
people that make everything about race are just sad/petty. its truly a backwards and outdated method of thinking
omg, what is wrong with what he is saying???
nothing outdated when your race has been enslaved and discriminated against since the moment we came off them boats. just be glad you don't have to deal with it fam.
whats that brothas instagram??? i'm gonna add him and chop up some game with him.
making everything about black, white, and race in general is what got black people enslaved in the first place
i dno i dont do instragram. but read the comment in the picture by "Ephraim the navigator"... you ok with what he's saying?
i have no problem with what he's saying. marilyn was a HOE and all he's trying to reach out to the lost sistas who don't know their history. the type to follow blonde thot instead of someone like dorothy dandridge.
african americans get the white washed version of history, so a lot of my brothas and sistas look to people who don't look like them as the epitome of who they should be, false. i come from a bloodline of african kings so i carry myself as such.
you have no problems with a guy saying he got sick to his stomach because a girl used to be with a white guy? JUST because he was white? so much so that he "couldn't continue to see her" as if she was contaminated by whiteness. do you not see how this sort of mentality is outdated and backwards?
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