Evolution...?

[RD2191]

A Christian is one who has come to realize that he or she had been under that death penalty and in need of a Savior. A Christian understands that Jesus Christ paid that penalty by dying on the cross when He was completely innocent of any sin (II Cor. 5:21; I John 2:2; 4:10; Rev. 1:5; 5:9).

Jesus didn't die on the cross, therefore making your statement irrelevant.

[ChumpDumper]

In my eyes it is a very big commitment and basically becoming a new person. I curse, watch porn, have sex with women, and of course call people like you idiots/make fun of them etc etc. I obviously can't do those things if I am going to represent God/call myself a Christian. I still have a lot of things to work on and fix about myself. I can't just say hey I'm a Christian and keep on sinning. Of course I will sin after I get baptized but hopefully it will be much less than it is now. Hopefully I will be able to keep my promise to God and be able to serve him in the proper way.

So you'll get around to becoming a Christian when you feel you can comfortably give up things you know to be wrong but enjoy greatly.

I don't even know what to say to that.

[RD2191]

how does the bible define a christian, then? cite the passage you are referring to

Don't need to. You can find it if you want to. Use Google.

If you believe in science that makes you a scientist?

[SnakeBoy]

Not true at all. Not even close. And not according to the Bible. That may be your definition of christian but to the Bible it is not.

The bible can be interpreted in many ways. Since Catholics believe that people of different faiths and even atheists can go to heaven are you saying that catholics are not Christian or that Catholics don't believe in the bible.

And what is it that you think the bible is?

[spurraider21]

Jesus didn't die on the cross, therefore making your statement irrelevant.

actually, i'm pretty sure he did

[spurraider21]

Don't need to. You can find it if you want to. Use Google.

If you believe in science that makes you a scientist?

i used google and i posted some of the first definitions i found, you rejected them. if you claim those definitions are inaccurate, i'd like to see where you get yours from (unless its one you just made up, which is cool).

"scientist" isn't a religion, and science isn't a belief system

[RD2191]

The bible can be interpreted in many ways. Since Catholics believe that people of different faiths and even atheists can go to heaven are you saying that catholics are not Christian or that Catholics don't believe in the bible.

And what is it that you think the bible is?

I do not consider someone who believes in the Bible a christian. I consider someone who is baptized and follows Gods laws/principles a Christian. If someone wants to claim that they're Christian just because they believe in the Bible then that is their choice.

What exactly do you mean?

[RD2191]

actually, i'm pretty sure he did

No he didn't.

[Shastafarian]

actually, i'm pretty sure he did

Even good christians believe he did

[spurraider21]

No he didn't.

i guess you're right. you aren't a christian if you dont believe the story of jesus dying on the cross

[RD2191]

i used google and i posted some of the first definitions i found, you rejected them. if you claim those definitions are inaccurate, i'd like to see where you get yours from (unless its one you just made up, which is cool).

"scientist" isn't a religion, and science isn't a belief system

I get mine from the Bible. If you want to use a definition from somewhere else then go right ahead.

Doesn't matter. Does believing in science make you a scientist?

[RD2191]

i guess you're right. you aren't a christian if you dont believe the story of jesus dying on the cross

Jesus died but not on a cross.

[spurraider21]

I get mine from the Bible. If you want to use a definition from somewhere else then go right ahead.

Doesn't matter. Does believing in science make you a scientist?

i gave a definition that was from the bible, with the verses cited, and you still rejected it. can you cite where you get your definition from?

[ChumpDumper]

Jesus died but not on a cross.

How he die?

[SnakeBoy]

In my eyes it is a very big commitment and basically becoming a new person. I curse, watch porn, have sex with women, and of course call people like you idiots/make fun of them etc etc. I obviously can't do those things if I am going to represent God/call myself a Christian. I still have a lot of things to work on and fix about myself. I can't just say hey I'm a Christian and keep on sinning. Of course I will sin after I get baptized but hopefully it will be much less than it is now. Hopefully I will be able to keep my promise to God and be able to serve him in the proper way.

Uh that is what Christianity is all about. Under Christianity we all inherent original sin. In other words we are all born sinners and no matter how hard we try we will continue to sin yet we will be forgiven. Quite different from Islam which believes there was no original sin (Adam was innocent, Eve just ed him over) and we are born innocent and must remain that way and be punished if we do sin.

[RD2191]

THE cross is loved and respected by millions of people.The Encyclopædia Britannica calls the cross “the principal symbol of the Christian religion.” Nevertheless, true Christians do not use the cross in worship. Why not?
An important reason is that Jesus Christ did not die on a cross. The Greek word generally translated “cross” isstau·ros′. It basically means “an upright pale or stake.” The Companion Bible points out: “[Stau·ros′] never means twopieces of timber placed across one another at any angle . . . There is nothing in the Greek of the [New Testament] even to imply two pieces of timber.”
In several texts, Bible writers use another word for the instrument of Jesus’ death. It is the Greek word xy′lon.(Acts 5:30; 10:39; 13:29; Galatians 3:13; 1 Peter 2:24) This word simply means “timber” or “a stick, club, or tree.”
Explaining why a simple stake was often used for executions, the book Das Kreuz und die Kreuzigung (The Cross and the Crucifixion), by Hermann Fulda, states: “Trees were not everywhere available at the places chosen for public execution. So a simple beam was sunk into the ground. On this the outlaws, with hands raised upward and often also with their feet, were bound or nailed.”
The most convincing proof of all, however, comes from God’s Word. The apostle Paul says: “Christ by purchase released us from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written: ‘Accursed is every man hanged upon a stake [“a tree,” King James Version].’” (Galatians 3:13) Here Paul quotes Deuteronomy 21:22, 23, which clearly refers to a stake, not a cross. Since such a means of execution made the person “a curse,” it would not be proper for Christians to decorate their homes with images of Christ impaled.
There is no evidence that for the first 300 years after Christ’s death, those claiming to be Christians used the cross in worship. In the fourth century, however, pagan Emperor Constantine became a convert to apostate Christianity and promoted the cross as its symbol. Whatever Constantine’s motives, the cross had nothing to do with Jesus Christ. The cross is, in fact, pagan in origin. The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits: “The cross is found in both pre-Christian and non-Christian cultures.” Various other authorities have linked the cross with nature worship and pagan sex rites.
Why, then, was this pagan symbol promoted? Apparently, to make it easier for pagans to accept “Christianity.” Nevertheless, devotion to any pagan symbol is clearly condemned by the Bible. (2 Corinthians 6:14-18) The Scriptures also forbid all forms of idolatry. (Exodus 20:4, 5;1 Corinthians 10:14) With very good reason, therefore, true Christians do not use the cross in worship. *

[RD2191]

i gave a definition that was from the bible, with the verses cited, and you still rejected it. can you cite where you get your definition from?

The Bible. Did you look up the scriptures you quoted and study them for yourself?

[SnakeBoy]

What exactly do you mean?

I mean what do you think the Bible is exactly? (a rulebook or something) *HINT There is another name for the Bible

[spurraider21]

The Bible. Did you look up the scriptures you quoted and study them for yourself?

i haven't read out of a bible for a long time. where in the bible are you getting your definition from. if you can't cite it, i'm certain you are just making up a definition

[RD2191]

I mean what do you think the Bible is exactly? (a rulebook or something) *HINT There is another name for the Bible

A collection of books used to guide people in their every day lives. The story of creation/God. Laws given to us that we need to follow.

[Shastafarian]

Laws given to us that we need to follow.

So why don't you follow them?

[spurraider21]

THE cross is loved and respected by millions of people.The Encyclopædia Britannica calls the cross “the principal symbol of the Christian religion.” Nevertheless, true Christians do not use the cross in worship. Why not?
An important reason is that Jesus Christ did not die on a cross. The Greek word generally translated “cross” isstau·ros′. It basically means “an upright pale or stake.” The Companion Bible points out: “[Stau·ros′] never means twopieces of timber placed across one another at any angle . . . There is nothing in the Greek of the [New Testament] even to imply two pieces of timber.”
In several texts, Bible writers use another word for the instrument of Jesus’ death. It is the Greek word xy′lon.(Acts 5:30; 10:39; 13:29; Galatians 3:13; 1 Peter 2:24) This word simply means “timber” or “a stick, club, or tree.”
Explaining why a simple stake was often used for executions, the book Das Kreuz und die Kreuzigung (The Cross and the Crucifixion), by Hermann Fulda, states: “Trees were not everywhere available at the places chosen for public execution. So a simple beam was sunk into the ground. On this the outlaws, with hands raised upward and often also with their feet, were bound or nailed.”
The most convincing proof of all, however, comes from God’s Word. The apostle Paul says: “Christ by purchase released us from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written: ‘Accursed is every man hanged upon a stake [“a tree,” King James Version].’” (Galatians 3:13) Here Paul quotes Deuteronomy 21:22, 23, which clearly refers to a stake, not a cross. Since such a means of execution made the person “a curse,” it would not be proper for Christians to decorate their homes with images of Christ impaled.
There is no evidence that for the first 300 years after Christ’s death, those claiming to be Christians used the cross in worship. In the fourth century, however, pagan Emperor Constantine became a convert to apostate Christianity and promoted the cross as its symbol. Whatever Constantine’s motives, the cross had nothing to do with Jesus Christ. The cross is, in fact, pagan in origin. The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits: “The cross is found in both pre-Christian and non-Christian cultures.” Various other authorities have linked the cross with nature worship and pagan sex rites.
Why, then, was this pagan symbol promoted? Apparently, to make it easier for pagans to accept “Christianity.” Nevertheless, devotion to any pagan symbol is clearly condemned by the Bible. (2 Corinthians 6:14-18) The Scriptures also forbid all forms of idolatry. (Exodus 20:4, 5;1 Corinthians 10:14) With very good reason, therefore, true Christians do not use the cross in worship. *

this is very much so a minority view.

my grandfather (from my dad's side) was an armenian orthodox priest, i was raised with this , having read the english king james version and the armenian version of the bible, both of which cite crucifixion

[ChumpDumper]

THE cross is loved and respected by millions of people.The Encyclopædia Britannica calls the cross “the principal symbol of the Christian religion.” Nevertheless, true Christians do not use the cross in worship. Why not?
An important reason is that Jesus Christ did not die on a cross. The Greek word generally translated “cross” isstau·ros′. It basically means “an upright pale or stake.” The Companion Bible points out: “[Stau·ros′] never means twopieces of timber placed across one another at any angle . . . There is nothing in the Greek of the [New Testament] even to imply two pieces of timber.”
In several texts, Bible writers use another word for the instrument of Jesus’ death. It is the Greek word xy′lon.(Acts 5:30; 10:39; 13:29; Galatians 3:13; 1 Peter 2:24) This word simply means “timber” or “a stick, club, or tree.”
Explaining why a simple stake was often used for executions, the book Das Kreuz und die Kreuzigung (The Cross and the Crucifixion), by Hermann Fulda, states: “Trees were not everywhere available at the places chosen for public execution. So a simple beam was sunk into the ground. On this the outlaws, with hands raised upward and often also with their feet, were bound or nailed.”
The most convincing proof of all, however, comes from God’s Word. The apostle Paul says: “Christ by purchase released us from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written: ‘Accursed is every man hanged upon a stake [“a tree,” King James Version].’” (Galatians 3:13) Here Paul quotes Deuteronomy 21:22, 23, which clearly refers to a stake, not a cross. Since such a means of execution made the person “a curse,” it would not be proper for Christians to decorate their homes with images of Christ impaled.
There is no evidence that for the first 300 years after Christ’s death, those claiming to be Christians used the cross in worship. In the fourth century, however, pagan Emperor Constantine became a convert to apostate Christianity and promoted the cross as its symbol. Whatever Constantine’s motives, the cross had nothing to do with Jesus Christ. The cross is, in fact, pagan in origin. The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits: “The cross is found in both pre-Christian and non-Christian cultures.” Various other authorities have linked the cross with nature worship and pagan sex rites.
Why, then, was this pagan symbol promoted? Apparently, to make it easier for pagans to accept “Christianity.” Nevertheless, devotion to any pagan symbol is clearly condemned by the Bible. (2 Corinthians 6:14-18) The Scriptures also forbid all forms of idolatry. (Exodus 20:4, 5;1 Corinthians 10:14) With very good reason, therefore, true Christians do not use the cross in worship. *

So who introduced you to this line of religious thought?

[RD2191]

i haven't read out of a bible for a long time. where in the bible are you getting your definition from. if you can't cite it, i'm certain you are just making up a definition

So if you haven't read from it where are you getting your definition from? If you read the Bible and actually studied it you would know what qualifies/who is qualified to call themselves a Christian.

[spurraider21]

So if you haven't read from it where are you getting your definition from? If you read the Bible and actually studied it you would know what qualifies/who is qualified to call themselves a Christian.

i have read 2 versions of the bible, just not for a while. with that being said, i know what makes somebody a christian. you haven't even given me your definition of a christian and still haven't been able to cite where you got it from