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I'll be searching for some info to help me get a read on the over/under. I can't take the Pats while rooting for the Seahawks, did that with Ohio St/Oregon and it sucked.
So far I haven't lost an O/U play, something new to me this season.
Top 10 white receivers in my opinion (post 1960)
1.Lance Alworth
2.Ray Berry
3.Steve Largent
4.Fred Biletnikoff
5.Don Maynard
6.Wes Welker
7.Charley Hennigan
8.Tommy McDonald
9.Dwight Clark
10.Jordy Nelson
I'll be searching for some info to help me get a read on the over/under. I can't take the Pats while rooting for the Seahawks, did that with Ohio St/Oregon and it sucked.
So far I haven't lost an O/U play, something new to me this season.
I gotta come clean. Lost on the -7.5 on Seattle. Did a no no and doubled up on a bet I didn't like much and took New England -7.5. Worked out but not a very good strategy. If I end up betting on SB, gotta go with the Pats.
XLVIII 2014 East Rutherford, NJ Seattle vs. Denver Denver -2.5 (47.5) Seattle 43 Denver 8 Underdog-Over XLVII 2013 New Orleans, LA San Francisco vs. Baltimore San Francisco -4.5 (48) Baltimore 34 San Francisco 31 Underdog-Over XLVI 2012 Indianapolis, IN N.Y. Giants vs. New England New England -2.5 (53) N.Y. Giants 21 New England 17 Underdog-Under XLV 2011 Arlington, TX Green Bay vs. Pittsburgh Green Bay -3 (45) Green Bay 31 Pittsburgh 25 Favorite-Over XLIV 2010 Miami, FL New Orleans vs. Indianapolis Indianapolis -5 (57) New Orleans 31 Indianapolis 17 Underdog-Under XLIII 2009 Tampa, FL Pittsburgh vs. Arizona Pittsburgh -7 (46) Pittsburgh 27 Arizona 23 Underdog-Over XLII 2008 Glendale, AZ N.Y. Giants vs. New England New England -12 (55) N.Y. Giants 17 New England 14 Underdog-Under XLI 2007 Miami, FL Indianapolis vs. Chicago Indianapolis -7 (47) Indianapolis 29 Chicago 17 Favorite-Under XL 2006 Detroit, MI Pittsburgh vs. Seattle Pittsburgh -4 (47) Pittsburgh 21 Seattle 10 Favorite-Under XXIX 2005 Jacksonville, FL New England vs. Philadelphia New England -7 (46.5) New England 24 Philadelphia 21 Underdog-Under XXXVIII 2004 Houston, TX New England vs. Carolina New England -7 (37.5) New England 32 Carolina 29 Underdog-Over XXXVII 2003 San Diego, CA Tampa Bay vs. Oakland Oakland -4 (44) Tampa Bay 48 Oakland 21 Underdog-Over XXXVI 2002 New Orleans, LA New England vs. St. Louis St. Louis -14 (53) New England 20 St. Louis 17 Underdog-Under XXXV 2001 Tampa, FL Baltimore vs. N.Y. Giants Baltimore -3 (33) Baltimore 34 N.Y. Giants 7 Favorite-Over XXXIV 2000 Atlanta, GA St. Louis vs. Tennessee St. Louis -7 (45) St. Louis 23 Tennessee 16 Push-Under XXXIII 1999 Miami, FL Denver vs. Atlanta Denver -7.5 (52.5) Denver 34 Atlanta 19 Favorite-Over XXXII 1998 San Diego, CA Denver vs. Green Bay Green Bay -11 (49) Denver 31 Green Bay 24 Underdog-Over XXXI 1997 New Orleans, LA Green Bay vs. New England Green Bay -14 (49) Green Bay 35 New England 21 Push-Over XXX 1996 Tempe, AZ Dallas vs. Pittsburgh Dallas -13.5 (51) Dallas 27 Pittsburgh 17 Underdog-Under XXIX 1995 Miami, FL San Francisco vs. San Diego San Francisco -18.5 San Francisco 49 San Diego 26 Favorite-Over
I saw a backdoor cover for GB at 7.5. Would have played the game at 7. I was pretty confident about NE, I should have played more.
Belichick/Brady in a big game, just to potent a duo to go against from an ATS perspective.
Thanks, but...
I'm still trying to figure out just what's important with o/u plays, yep...a rookie. I did uncover a few strong trends like...11-1 under on the road (my other plays). So I 'm thinking ...home/road...is a biggie here. Obviously both being road teams.
I do wonder if playing in Arizona every season gives Seattle any kind of advantage.
I think I'll take that 2000 tax free $$$$$ and buy a big screen Samsung HD TV for the bedroom. Life is good, hahaha!!!!! And still have $$$$$ left to play on the SB
The Seahawks need a speedy back who can catch the ball. Something they've never had.
Sherman Smith
Curt Warner
Chris Warren
Shawn Alexander
Marshawn Lynch
...nay!
congrats on being in the 0% income tax bracketI think I'll take that 2000 tax free $$$$$ and buy a big screen Samsung HD TV for the bedroom. Life is good, hahaha!!!!! And still have $$$$$ left to play on the SB
Do you simply work at never getting it?
So ya take a bunch of numbers, then work out what those numbers mean to something in the future. Then you sit there and watch it all unfold just like those numbers said it would, that's pretty cool and profitable. The thing is you need know those numbers.
what? I didn't say you didn't win your $2000. You said, "tax free" so I assume you aren't in an income earning bracket. Which makes sense with your age.
But if you're saying you don't pay taxes on your gambling earnings when you pay income taxes, then you're an income cheat. So...when you about the Muslims, you should next apologize to the soldiers who got their legs blown off because the military had to cut back that day due to Avante being selfish.
Dude, stick to...I ed yo mama....once you try to go beyond that it just doesn't work...ok?
So who can tell me....
You've all heard of Jim Brown, he was a fullback, so who was his running back most of his career? And....who was his back up at fullback?
translation...I don't really have a good response but also can't let ctoa have the last word. yes, I am old gay pantywearing troll that Google's all day. and I will have the last word
The sad thing about you is how you really can't figure out when you are dealing with a long time fan of football/track/music. Dumb kids like you need Google.
Dude, talk to me about Mel Anthony and "Squirmin' " Sherman Lewis, Google???....hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ernie Green or Bobby Mitc maybe...
Bobby Mitc ws a Big10 sprint/hurdles champ while at Illinois. A great running back, who ended up as a HOF receiver with the Redskins. So tell me (Google) why the Browns traded him?
Ernie Green was the answer, he was a so so talent.
This is what guys like me can do, while you run off to Google.
No one cares!!!!!
lol at thinking anyone here will learn anything from you.
Just troll on down to the local retirement home, trot out some of those "so you know who" lines to the ladies and get you some of that 80 year old pussy that hangs down to the floor. You can thank me later.
As you follow me from forum to forum, hahaha!!!!!!!!! Little man, are you really as ed up as you act?
Go bug the kids here, ok?
your question said "most of his career"...when in reality, you meant to say...
"I'm thinking of a running back who played with Jim Brown. There are several. None played with Brown for "most" of his career. But I'm thinking of one specficlly because I'd like to tell you some more useless info that comes to mind. Who is this running back?"
If you'd have asked it like that, I could have said, "I don't know". and then, you could have gloated that a normal person couldn't read your ing mind.
but that's not how you did it
sure...don't know much about Mel Anthony but Lewis...from Michigan State....
yep...he knew about Michigan State long before Michigan State knew about him. But it didn't take Sherman Lewis long to be noticed. After all, how many 154-pound halfbacks spend half their time in opponents' end zones?
"I wanted to go to a big school to see if I could make it," the Louisville, Ky., native said Friday. "I grew up listening to University of Kentucky football. But blacks couldn't play in the SEC. I had to go somewhere West or North."
Or East - as in just East of Lansing.
"When we watched games on TV in the '50s, we were always looking for black athletes," Lewis said. "Minnesota had a lot. Iowa was loaded. And Michigan State had a history. It had 'em and played 'em. I remembered that from watching the Rose Bowl."
When "Squirmin' Sherman" got to campus, he couldn't believe the size of the Spartans. And he was talking about the freshman backs, not the senior linemen.
"I thought about what the coaches had told me - that I'd be better off at a smaller school - and wondered if they were right," Lewis said. "Ollie Dunlap and Earl Lattimore were huge. And Dewey Lincoln, the next-smallest guy, was about 5-foot-11, 185. I had to find a way to convince them."
yep...Duffy Daugherty and his staff held No. 20 out of full-speed contact drills in close quarters the first week of practice. Finally, Lewis asked to be treated like everybody else. And defenders couldn't crush what they couldn't catch.
The biggest problem he faced was discrimination - and not in the football program, where Daugherty's color-blind reputation was well-deserved.
"It's hard to pinpoint discrimination sometimes," Lewis said. "It can be subtle. But the town of East Lansing was still very segregated. It was hard to find a place to live there. And mixing wasn't condoned. The football program was definitely more progressive than the town was."
His senior year was a highlight reel. In a key win over the Northwestern Wildcats of Ara Parseghian, Lewis scored on a 29-yard reception and an 87-yard run, and then sealed the victory with an 84-yard punt return.
Lewis was third in the Heisman Trophy voting in 1963. No Michigan State player has ever finished higher.
"They made the right choice," Lewis said. "The guy who won it, Roger Staubach, had a fantastic year for Navy. He had a great game in their win at Michigan. And maybe if we'd beaten Illinois in that last game, I'd have had a chance."
That Big Ten le showdown was postponed five days to Thanksgiving afternoon after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
"Nobody wanted to play that day," Lewis said. "They cancelled the game after our pregame meal. Illinois went home. And we went inside and had a knockdown, drag-out practice, one of our best. But when we did play, we were down to our third-string quarterback. And we kept turning it over (in a 13-0 Illini win)."
Lewis was drafted by three teams - Cleveland in the NFL, the New York Jets in the AFL and Toronto in the CFL. He chose to go to Canada so he could play offense, then joined the Jets in 1966 for a year and a half before injuring his knee.
"I knew I wanted to coach," Lewis said. "The people I always looked up to were coaches. They were always the most respected people in the school or the neighborhood. And I knew what it took - being a teacher and being yourself. You can't try to be Rockne or Lombardi."
Lewis sent resumes to nearly 20 universities with no success. Finally, his high school created a job for him. And one year later, Daugherty gave him a shot when Don Coleman left the MSU staff.
As an assistant with the Spartans from 1969-82, Lewis hoped to take over one day. That dream continued through an NFL coaching career from 1983-2004.
"When Darryl Rogers left in 1980, I was the only assistant who stayed," Lewis said. "I thought I had a real good shot at it. But they hired Muddy Waters, and I worked for him. Then, when George Perles came in, he wanted to bring his own coordinator, and I caught on with San Francisco. I tried to come back when George left. But everything happens for a reason, I guess."
Lewis spent nine seasons as the 49ers' wide receivers and running backs coach and earned three Super Bowl rings. He moved to Green Bay as Mike Holmgren's offensive coordinator in 1992 and won another le in eight years with Brett Favre. He also coordinated the offense for Minnesota in 2000-01 and with Detroit from 2002-04.
"It's hard to say how close I came to getting a head coaching job," Lewis said. "I had a second interview with Dallas when Chan Gailey got it. And I thought I interviewed well with Chicago, Arizona and Atlanta. The job I always wanted was Michigan State."
yep....His contributions made it easier for other black coaches in the NFL. And Super Bowl coaches Tony Dungy of Indianapolis and Lovie Smith of Chicago made sure to salute Lewis contributions.
"I was very proud in the two weeks leading up to the game," Lewis said. "They're two classy guys. And it mattered to all of us. It was kind of like when Joe Louis won the heavyweight championship of the world."
Lewis' world is different these days. After leaving the Lions, he spent a year as an analyst on Michigan State radio broadcasts. But at age 64, he said he loves retirement and the chance to do things he has never done - wherever and whenever he wants.
yep... if the San Diego Chargers called, he'd be there tomorrow. And if the Spartans ever needed him, he'd be there today.
or were you thinking of a different Sherman Lewis?
The point I was trying to make is who do you know that saw that Anthony/Lewis duo play? How about Jim "Cannonball" Butler? Rufus "The Roadrunner" Ferguson? "Choo Choo" Winters? I.M HIPP????????
Little man, I don't need Google...ok?
So tell me what track event did Lewis excell in at the Big10 level?
Do you really think Google tells you who was white/black? You'd have to have seen Don Perkins play to know he was.....what?
this is like me asking you after you're dead..."hey...who was the 2017 starting running back at Alabama?"
I'm sorry, all I hear is, I'm sorry NFO I still can't answer that track trivia question.
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