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  1. #126
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    much like the putative extirpation of sexism in video games: mostly rumored.
    The demand for censorship and the ensuing censorship are both problems for me. You've only focused on the results, and use that to excuse multicultural fascism. So per for the par.

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    what censorship? you've totally begged the question.

    there's is no First amendment issue. who got deprived?

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    companies consensually responded to public pressure.

    that may be craven. that may be contemptible. but that isn't censorship.

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    what censorship? you've totally begged the question.

    there's is no First amendment issue. who got deprived?
    The issue here absolutely concerns censorship.There are many brands of censorship beyond the government variety. The criticism of how woman are portrayed in games is made so that the content changes to be more inclusive to women gamers. That's another way of silencing one type of content and subs uting in another. When the critique aims at removing "offensive" content and putting in a sanitized subs ute, that's censorship.

    More to the point, the underlying issue is ridiculous. Games are made for entertainment but they are also a form of expression. If a bunch of Christians got upset at Trent Reznor because the music of Nine Inch Nails is hostile towards Christianity, we'd be quick to brush them off. The issue here is the same -- feminists aren't en led to have a positive depiction of women advanced in games. If they don't like the content, they should create their own ty games. But the idea that developers should change how woman are portrayed to accommodate a feminist view is ridiculous.

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    companies consensually responded to public pressure.

    that may be craven. that may be contemptible. but that isn't censorship.
    Disagree. But if you want to quibble over the semantics of the word "censorship" go right on ahead.

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    your birthright to consume violent, sexist video games, if anything, has been only incidentally impinged.

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    your birthright to consume violent, sexist video games, if anything, has been only incidentally impinged.
    And your proclivity for neo-liberal, multicultural fascism has been fully indulged. What's your point?

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    your whining, grates.

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    the loser mentality seems to be strongly inculcated here. gamers think they already lost.

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    Developers self edit all the time after judging the potential reaction from the market.

    Now they know pretty explicitly how part of that market feels.

    What's the problem again?

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    And your proclivity for neo-liberal, multicultural fascism has been fully indulged. What's your point?
    there you go again with the vapid pejoratives. it isn't fascism when companies bow to perceived social proprieties.

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    (I suppose you have your own, idiosyncratic definition for fascism, too ...)

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    there you go again with the vapid pejoratives. it isn't fascism when companies bow to perceived social proprieties.
    if women are 48% of the gaming market, and they about misogyny in games, then cutting the game misogyny is business sense, not fascism, not censoring, just $$$, the ONLY American value.

    will the 48% boycott the misogynist games?

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    when a woman es and gets her way, it's censorship and fascism, but when I do, it's free expression.

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    when a woman es and gets her way, it's censorship and fascism, but when I do, it's free expression.
    Sure it is. Your gloss =|= the reality of the situation.

    there you go again with the vapid pejoratives. it isn't fascism when companies bow to perceived social proprieties.
    Lol social proprities. If silencing speech that you don't like because you find it offensive isn't fascism, I don't know what is. You don't want to engage this point though -- you seem much more content to play games with words.

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    If there really is such a great amount of women gamers who find such content offensive, why are they buying the games? Why don't they boycott and let the companies adjust on their own? Why does it have to extend to removing that content out of the market place?

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    among all the threats to free expression and liberty, you emphasize the threat that game developers will spare the misogynistic violence in future games.

    surely you can get it elsewhere, if you care so much. what injury has been suffered here?

    who has been deprived of rights, and what rights have they been deprived of?

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    be as specific as your can. so far you're all hot air.

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    among all the threats to free expression and liberty, you emphasize the threat that game developers will spare the misogynistic violence in future games.
    It's a topical issue. Where did I ever say that the first amendment implications are great?

    surely you can get it elsewhere, if you care so much. what injury has been suffered here?
    Surely I can get what where?

    who has been deprived of rights, and what rights have they been deprived of?
    I never put this in terms of rights; that's your gloss, not mine. You'll have to rephrase this question.

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    be as specific as your can. so far you're all hot air.
    crofl

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    lol @ the so-called demise of your putatively heteronormative subculture.

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    Parting shots!

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    lol @ taking up cudgels against vile, feminist oppressors over your hurt feelings about corporate sensitivity to customers.

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    Why are you so ass hurt about this? Resorting to lame, ironic jabs was never your style.

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    hurt? far from it.

    you continue to amuse.

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