Choosing a team site by Google searches?
Man.
I can keep track of that one easier.
Didn't stop you from offering a bet about Davis Webb 2-3 years down the line. Real convenient how you only wanna do a sig bet now.
If you take it as a sign that I'm wavering on my belief that SA will next to never get an NFL franchise, I don't really care. My ego is fine.
LA is just not much of a pro football town. That will not stop them from
getting the next team that moves. The NFL wants a team in LA for the TV -media
market. This is the biggest TV market in the USA with no team? I just cannot imagine
why it's taking so long to put a team in a market that will be a cash cow for the league.
I agree with you, Los Angeles will be next according to the NFL and within one or two years.
They want one badly in London too, but that is fraught with lots of logistical nightmares at this point, but they are thinking of making it a requirement that every team play at least one regular season game there once they figure out how to get past the contractual legalities involved.
Many are saying that expansion is the way to do this.
NFL booms in London, but possible team move still hazy
Gary Mihoces, USA TODAY Sports 1:16 p.m. EST November 11, 2014
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...nchise/1883601
Playing a new high of three games in London this season, the NFL did bloody well.
Novelty appeal in soccer land? Or do the positive signs say London is not only ready for some football – but its own franchise?
"I don't think they make it a done deal. … I do think we've made a lot of progress on several fronts,'' says Mark Waller, an Englishman who is NFL executive vice president for international.
In Sunday's 2014 London finale, the Dallas Cowboys beat the Jacksonville Jaguars at Wembley Stadium before a paid sellout crowd of 83,603 (average ticket $122 U.S. dollars). Nine of 11 London games since 2007 have sold more than 83,000 tickets, including the past six.
An October game, the "Wake up to Wembley" matchup between the Detroit Lions and Atlanta Falcons, had a start time of 9:30 a.m. ET in the USA, yet turned in solid ratings in a time slot that could expand the NFL schedule on Sundays.
Three more NFL games are set for London in 2015.
"We've sold a quarter of a million tickets for those three games (this year)," says Waller. " … If you kind of took that and translated it into U.S. domestic terms, that's probably half a season (of home attendance) for most clubs.''
A third of customers bought the three-game package.
"You've got a core there of attendees that you could sort of almost qualify as season ticket holders," says Waller. " … I think we've seen progress on that sort of fan-demand side, which is a huge part of being able to make the next phase of the commitment.''
Learning curve
On Sunday at Wembley, Mic e Williams, formerly of Destiny's Child, sang the The Star-Spangled Banner, inspired by the U.S. defense of Fort McHenry from bombardment – by the British – in the War of 1812. The United Kingdom's God Save the Queen also was sung.
The NFL says 88 percent of London attendees are from the UK, and they're learning the game.
The website of NFL UK has basics such as, "One 11-man team has possession of the football. It is called the offense,'' and, "Probably the most important part of the field is the end zone."
Oakland Raiders offensive tackle Menelik Watson, a native of England, says he seen "steadily" mounting interest.
"People in England are still kind of raw to the rules and regulations," Watson said. "Once they get that down, it's going to really, really take off."
Cowboys defensive end Jack Crawford, also from England: "When I learned the rules of American football, it became the most entertaining sport to watch. … If you don't know the rules, then it's just stop, stop, stop. And it's boring.''
Could London sustain a home team?
"They don't have an answer to that yet," says Marc Ganis, president of Chicago-based Sportscorp, a consultant to many NFL teams on franchise moves and stadium issues. "But that's one of the primarily goals of increasing the number of games. They want to see if there's a fan base for it, if it would work logistically, if it can be a bridge to broader broadcasting deals throughout Europe.''
The NFL has said it wants a team in Los Angeles. But Commissioner Roger Goodell also has said there could be a London team in five to 10 years.
Ganis doesn't see a London team landing an NFL team via expansion, and he said the drawbacks go beyond owners not wanting to divide profits further. "There are a number of owners that have told me that on a compe ive balance basis, 32 teams is perfect,'' says Ganis.
That leaves relocation. Sunday, Jacksonville played the second of four London games it has scheduled annually through 2016. Team owner Shahid Khan also owns an English soccer club. On Sky Sports, more or less the English version of ESPN, Khan said last week it is "way too early" to say London will get a team.
"The most important thing is, is there really a fan base to support a team?" said Khan. "For us, we've been very clear we are the Jacksonville Jaguars."
More games coming
Next season will include more firsts: The Miami Dolphins vs. New York Jets on Oct. 4 is the first division game (AFC East) scheduled for London.
The NFL also will offer London fans their first games on back-to-back weekends: Jacksonville plays the Buffalo Bills on Oct. 25 and the Kansas City Chiefs play Detroit a week later.
Consecutive Sundays will provide another test, and possibly additional issues.
Wembley Stadium is regularly used as the England national soccer team's home venue for international matches such as qualifying games for the World Cup and European Championships. England head coach Roy Hodgson last week voiced his displeasure at the impact staging NFL games had on the surface, which is a composite of natural grass and artificial fibers.
"If I am asked if it is a good thing or not, I would have to say not," Hodgson told the UK media, when asked about the Cowboys' victory over the Jaguars being scheduled so close to an England game. England plays Slovenia at Wembley on Saturday.
Wembley Stadium is the only realistic venue for a London-based NFL team, and is owned by The Football Association, English soccer's governing body, through a subsidiary.
However, Wembley's managing director Roger Maslin said Monday that that NFL games were not to blame for the field's current uneven and inconsistent surface, instead blaming flaws in last summer's renovation.
A permanent London team likely would play two or three consecutive games at home, then two or three in the USA. "It wouldn't work if you were flying backwards and forwards week in and week out," Waller said.
The NFL again could experimentwith the earlier start.
The NFL was encouraged by the Oct. 26 Lions-Falcons game that started at 9:30 a.m. ET, as it drew roughly 8.5 million viewers in a time typically allocated to pre-game shows.
"I think that early window for the last game was probably a really good turning point,'' Waller said.
A report commissioned by the NFL and a London marketing agency said a London team could generate an annual economic impact locally of about $255 million. In the report, Sajid Javid, Parliament member/secretary of state for culture, media and sport, said, "London and the UK will welcome it with open arms."
The NFL wants more evidence.
"This is not a 51-49 kind of call," Ganis said. "The results of the efforts this year and in the ensuing few years will have to demonstrate very clearly to ownership that putting a team in London has significant long term benefits.''
He says the NFL needs to know it can handle the "serious contortions" needed for a London team.
Before their trip to London last Sunday after a game in Cincinnati, the Jaguars signed linebacker Khairi Fortt.
"We weren't sure he had a passport. We weren't sure he had a birth certificate," said Jaguars General Manager Dave Caldwell.
Fortt had both. "The NFL hasn't mandated that all players have a passport, and if we're going to continue to play games over here we feel like they should," Caldwellsaid.
After losing at New England Sept. 21, the Raiders flew seven hours, from Providence, R.I., to London – eight hours difference from Oakland.
"For me, being a European, I've done a lot of traveling, a lot of back and forth," Watson said, "so the time difference doesn't affect me. … I'm sure once guys are used to that schedule, it will be something they become accustomed to."
For more of the logistics, follow this link below:
London's logistical issues remain in NFL's way
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...lems/18836465/
London calling, and San Antonio is on hold
By Buck Harvey Updated: November 9, 2014 1:11pm
http://www.expressnews.com/sports/co...ld-5881004.php
Henry Cisneros believes, if no one else does. And when he says the possibility of the Oakland Raiders moving to San Antonio is a “very clear 50-50 proposition,” he bases that on many factors.
Among them is the passion that South Texas has for football.
But passion doesn’t have much to do with this, ...
And London looks in, again, from the outside.
Cisneros and San Antonio officials traveled ...
That was nice of Cisneros, because the Raiders have had severe indigestion. They are the NFL’s only winless team.
The Cowboys will ...
Given that the Jacksonville owner, Shahid Khan, also owns an English soccer club, the Jaguars are candidates to move full-time to London. While that is ...
Still, no one is sure of the logistics should an NFL team permanently reside in London. Traveling trans-Atlantic for one game, followed by a bye as the Cowboys have, is far different than putting London in the NFC East.
The three games against New York, Washington and Philadelphia would be long but tolerable. The annual home-and-away with Dallas would add a few more hours.
But the rotating schedule that would eventually align London with, say, the NFC West, would be a challenge for everyone. The London franchise would likely have to stay in the states for three-game stretches, and teams such as Seattle and San Francisco would face season-changing jet lag.
As for other issues: Would the team be based in London year round while the talent still lives in the United States, and would players want to sign to play there?
It’s a reason John Madden, in an interview last week with USA Today, said, “I don’t think that London thing can ever work.”
Jerry Jones, ...
Jones took the opposite stance last summer when told of the Raiders’ interest in San Antonio. He initially said he wasn’t sure if it was a joke.
“It would be difficult for (the Raiders) to make headway,” he said. “I’ll make sure of that.”
But London? “It has cachet,” Jones said, and a Dallas Morning News columnist had fun with that.
“Cachet,” he wrote. “For all Jerry knows, it’s French for cash. Because that’s what an NFL team here represents.”
A marriage between the NFL and an international financial center of about eight million people would be a royal one. Imagine the e in ratings on the telly.
That’s why the NFL wants this to work and would risk its product with overseas travel. The league can’t expand its brand in cities such as San Antonio anymore; there’s windfall growth in untapped markets.
And if London sports fans are just mildly interested? The NFL is willing to overlook that as it is with Los Angeles. L.A., a more likely landing spot for the Raiders, has seen NFL teams leave in the past without much regret.
“I never had any doubt that people here,” Cisneros said a few years ago about San Antonio, “would respond to the opportunity to see professional football, the NFL.”
As if that’s the issue.
Globart posting the entire article again from saen.
Those guys have threatened to sue before. Why is this difficult for you to grasp this concept?
Why are you clearly violating forum rule, Glen?
Glen literally so stupid he forgot the forum rules again.
Wow, great way to stick to the topic, guys!
Far be it from either of you two to ever derail a thread.
You both need to go back to playing your video games, and leave the message board discussions to us mature civil adults!
Regarding a team in London, I think the way they do it now is fine. Send a couple of teams over there for a few games and that's it. I don't see how an actual team being in London can work, no matter how hard the NFL tries or how badly they want it.
You've been told several times that SAEN has threatened to sue ST for putting an article up in its entirety already. For some reason you haven't grasped that concept. It's not that difficult. Take an important paragraph, quote it, then post the link to the rest of the article.Wow, great way to stick to the topic, guys!
Far be it from either of you two to ever derail a thread.
You both need to go back to playing your video games, and leave the message board discussions to us mature civil adults!
I agree, and as I was discussing with chump, the logistics are too difficult to overcome.
Glen still literally too stupid to remember a rule he's been reminded of ad nauseam.
Old man with selective forum rules memory.
Yeah, I think this season every team that has played in London followed that game with a bye week (iirc). How would a London team do it for 8 games out of the year?
Go back to your video games, you are a failure here tbqh.Glen still literally too stupid to remember a rule he's been reminded of ad nauseam.
Old man with selective forum rules memory.
And quit derailing the thread, no one wants to read your BS, sorry to be so frank about it, but that is the truth.
Glen.
You need to edit the ing post.
We're derailing because we don't want Spurstalk to get sued because that would probably mean the end of Spurstalk.
re ed hypocritical piece of .
No one is derailing the thread Mr. Follow The Rules. Would you like me to link you the thread where timvp posted a letter that was sent to him from SAEN's legal team? Stop being stupid and edit your post, flake.
Glen - still too dumb to follow the rules, except when he can use them to .
Could SA be temporary home for Raiders?
Team would relocate during construction of new stadium
Posted November 10, 2014, 6:30 PM Updated November 10, 2014, 6:30 PM
http://www.ksat.com/content/pns/ksat...-raiders-.html
SAN ANTONIO - After meeting with a delegation of San Antonio business leaders last week, Oakland Raiders owner Mark Davis reiterated his desire to keep the team in Oakland.
But for fans yearning for a pro football team in San Antonio, all hope may not be lost. If the Raiders stay, and get the football-only stadium they desire, they’ll need a temporary place to play during construction. That has local sports fans asking: Why not San Antonio?
“If the Raiders moved here, everybody would be a Raiders fan,” said Shawn Maldonado.
“I don’t think (a temporary relocation) is worth it,” said Deshawn Wilburn. “We want to lay a foundation here, and we can't do that off of temporary.”
Supporters of a limited relocation said the Raiders’ time in San Antonio could be a sort of pilot program, giving the city a chance to show the NFL that it is ready for its own franchise.
“Show them that the fans will come out and support in numbers, and with their wallets,” said University of the Incarnate Word sports marketing professor Randall Griffiths.
San Antonio hosted the New Orleans Saints for several games after Hurricane Katrina. Griffiths said even though the league may know what San Antonio has to offer, playing host to a marquee franchise may be enough to get the city its own team.
“It shows a commitment by the city leadership and the fan base to come out and exercise with their feet and their wallets,” Griffiths said.
Every Express-News article is being edited and some just the link to them are posted, and most of the other articles are edited too.
If you don't like this thread, or how it is posted, then you don't have to read it, you are free to skip it, and I assure you, you won't be missed.
Don't like the idea of the Raiders temp moving to SA. Not worth while. Happened already with the Saints. What else does the city need to do to prove itself worthy?
What the are you talking about? The whole article is still there.
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