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    2014-2015 Salaries:

    Guaranteed:
    Tony Parker: $12,500,000
    Tim Duncan: $10,000,000
    Tiago Splitter: $9,250,000
    Boris Diaw: $7,500,000
    Manu Ginobili: $7,000,000
    Danny Green: $4,025,000
    Patty Mills: $3,842,105
    Marco Belinelli: $2,873,750
    Jeff Ayres: $1,828,750
    Kawhi Leonard: $2,894,059
    Aron Baynes: $2,077,000
    Cory Joseph: $2,023,261
    Kyle Anderson: $1,093,680
    Austin Daye: $1,063,684
    Matt Bonner: $915,283 (actual salary of $1,448,490, but the league pays the difference)

    Partially guaranteed (since waived):
    JaMychal Green: $507,336 ($60,000 guaranteed)
    Bryce Cotton: $507,336 ($50,000 guaranteed)
    John Holland: $507,336 ($20,000 guaranteed)
    Josh Davis: $507,336 ($20,000 guaranteed)


    Total guaranteed salary: $69,036,572
    2014-2015 salary cap: $63,065,000 ($5,971,572 over the cap)
    2014-2015 luxury tax threshold: $76,829,000 ($7,792,428 below the tax)

    I’ll just pay homage to Bruno by quoting his explanation of the tax:

    The Luxury Tax:

    What is the luxury tax?
    The luxury tax is a mechanism whose first goal is to reduce the differences between the richest and the poorest franchises by penalizing teams that overspend the others teams. Penalties have considerably raise with the new CBA to make it very expensive for teams to go way over the luxury tax threshold.
    For more details, check Larry Coon's CBA FAQ .

    The triple penalty system:
    A team above the tax is three time penalized. First, they had to pay the luxury tax. Second, they don't get a share of the luxury tax money given by the NBA to teams. Third, it makes it more likely to have to pay the repeater tax in the future.
    The last two effects push teams that are just above the tax threshold to go under it.
    Remaining financial flexibility for 2014-2015:

    From a financial standpoint, the Spurs have plenty of flexibility here to make more moves. They retain most of their mid-level exception (MLE), still having $3,228,000 left to spend. They also retain the full use of their bi-annual exception (BAE or LLE, the latter term being the one I’ll use any time I talk about it). In addition to those, the Spurs also have a traded player exception (TPE or TE) of $1,563,000 from the De Colo trade last year. Also, the Spurs can trade for or sign most players on minimum salaries without using any of these exceptions.


    2015 free agency:

    Here’s where the Spurs stand financially going into next summer:

    Guaranteed Salaries:
    Tony Parker: $13,437,500
    Tiago Splitter: $8,500,000
    Boris Diaw: $7,000,000
    Patty Mills: $3,578,947
    Kyle Anderson: $1,142,879

    Total guaranteed: $33,659,326

    Qualifying offers:
    Aron Baynes: $2,596,250

    Relevant cap holds:
    Tim Duncan: $15,542,169
    Manu Ginobili: $10,500,000
    Danny Green: $7,647,500
    Kawhi Leonard: $7,235,148
    Cory Joseph: $5,058,153
    Marco Belinelli: $3,735,875
    Jeff Ayres: $2,377,375
    Matt Bonner: $947,276
    Austin Daye: $947,276
    Livio Jean-Charles: $957,200
    2015 draft pick: ???

    Projected 2015-2016 salary cap: $66.5 Million
    Projected 2015-2016 luxury tax threshold: $80.1 Million

    To determine the Spurs' functional cap space, I'll just take the guaranteed salary and add to it Green and Leonard's holds along with the holds for LJC and the first-rounder (which I'm assuming will be the 25th pick and have a hold of $1,025,700). This gives a total of $50,524,874 committed to nine players. That means one needs to add in three roster charges (cap space can't be used until there is a total of 12 salaries or holds against the team's salary). of $525,093 each. That gives the Spurs a total of $52,100,153 against the cap for the purpose of free agency. There are ways around the roster charges, but we can talk about that later.

    With that in mind, the Spurs will have $14,399,847 in cap room under this scenario. That's really not enough to do a whole lot with. Lucky for them, the 2015 cap may be significantly higher than the current projections -- up over $70 Million. That would give them enough space to offer a near-max salary, but there aren't many scenarios where the team will be able to eek out max space without letting go of someone they would probably want to keep, especially since the team is likely to want to bring back another player or two like Baynes or Beli. Someone will have to take less, or else the idea of getting a premiere free agent seems like a pipe dream.
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    Closing down Bruno's old salary thread. Feel free to post competing theories here. But I stand by my claim that signing Mills killed 2015 free agency for the Spurs, and that way before Danny started playing his way into eight-figure-contract territory. It may be wise for the team to trade for a big like O'Quinn whom they can re-sign with Bird rights while also leaving a lot of cap space to bring in a legit bench guard.

    As always if anything is missing from this thread, let me know.

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    I'm expecting Bertans to head over next summer too
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    I'm expecting Bertans to head over next summer too
    Me too, but he should be able to fit into one of those roster charges. I think he'll get a long-term deal starting at the min. Him coming over is a big reason why I'm not really worried about the Spurs' bench if they go hard at a big-name free agent.
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    Name 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19
    Tony Parker $12,500,000 $13,437,500 $14,445,313 $15,453,126
    Tim Duncan $10,361,446
    Tiago Splitter $9,250,000 $8,500,000 $8,250,000
    Boris Diaw $8,000,000 $7,500,000 $7,000,000 $7,500,000
    Manu Ginobili $7,000,000
    Danny Green $4,025,000
    Patty Mills $3,842,105 $3,578,947 $3,578,948
    Kawhi Leonard $2,894,059 $4,045,894
    Marco Belinelli $2,873,750
    Aron Baynes $2,077,000 $2,596,250
    Cory Joseph $2,023,261 $3,034,892
    Jeff Ayres $1,828,750
    Kyle Anderson $1,093,680 $1,142,879 $1,192,080 $2,151,704 $3,227,556
    Austin Daye (waived) $1,063,384
    Matt Bonner $915,243
    JaMychal Green (waived) $60,000
    Bryce Cotton (waived) $50,000
    JaMychal Green $29,843
    John Holland (waived) $20,000
    Josh Davis (waived) $20,000
    Guaranteed Total: $69,927,521 $34,159,326 $29,274,261 $15,453,126
    Inclusive Total: $69,927,521 $43,836,362 $34,466,341 $25,104,830 $3,227,556
    Player Option / Team Option / Qualifying Offer / Non-Guaranteed / Early Termination / Not With Team

    http://www.basketballinsiders.com/sa...s-team-salary/
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    Name 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19
    Tony Parker $12,500,000 $13,437,500 $14,445,313 $15,453,126
    Tim Duncan $10,361,446
    Tiago Splitter $9,250,000 $8,500,000 $8,250,000
    Boris Diaw $8,000,000 $7,500,000 $7,000,000 $7,500,000
    Manu Ginobili $7,000,000
    Danny Green $4,025,000
    Patty Mills $3,842,105 $3,578,947 $3,578,948
    Kawhi Leonard $2,894,059 $4,045,894
    Marco Belinelli $2,873,750
    Aron Baynes $2,077,000 $2,596,250
    Cory Joseph $2,023,261 $3,034,892
    Jeff Ayres $1,828,750
    Kyle Anderson $1,093,680 $1,142,879 $1,192,080 $2,151,704 $3,227,556
    Austin Daye (waived) $1,063,384
    Matt Bonner $915,243
    JaMychal Green (waived) $60,000
    Bryce Cotton (waived) $50,000
    JaMychal Green $29,843
    John Holland (waived) $20,000
    Josh Davis (waived) $20,000
    Guaranteed Total: $69,927,521 $34,159,326 $29,274,261 $15,453,126
    Inclusive Total: $69,927,521 $43,836,362 $34,466,341 $25,104,830 $3,227,556
    Player Option / Team Option / Qualifying Offer / Non-Guaranteed / Early Termination / Not With Team

    http://www.basketballinsiders.com/sa...s-team-salary/
    It seems like they're using the contract that was reported in ally. Sham has Diaw making less in the first two years. Took me a while to figure out what happened there.
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    Thanks for the info.
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    But I stand by my claim that signing Mills killed 2015 free agency for the Spurs
    Mills salary is not even 1/3 of Parker's and one year less. It is Parker's salary that killed our free agency specially if Parker would be playing bad lazy basketball
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    It seems like they're using the contract that was reported in ally. Sham has Diaw making less in the first two years. Took me a while to figure out what happened there.
    What has happened to the Sham web site? It seems like they haven't updated the Spurs numbers since last summer.
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    What has happened to the Sham web site? It seems like they haven't updated the Spurs numbers since last summer.
    Deeks work or at least worked for the B-Ball Breakdown Web site. He hasn't posted there in a while, though.
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    Deeks work or at least worked for the B-Ball Breakdown Web site. He hasn't posted there in a while, though.
    He has another website he does now (in addition to Sham), and also still seems to tie in closely to BBB. I'm sure he will update things soon on Sham.
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    Can you work an inverse stock option under the CBA?

    What is an inverse stock option? If a franchise had a "Face of the Franchise" player, and they wanted to reward him at the end of this career, could you put an inverse stock option in his contract: a clause that would allow him the option to buy a fraction of the team for a fixed price upon retirement? I know an active player is not allowed to have an ownership position, so you can't do regular stock options, but the clause would read something like this:

    Upon retirement from the NBA, Player X has the option to purchase n% of Franchise Y from Owner Z for the fixed price of $XXX

    Clearly, this is not an active ownership position, but rather the opportunity to take one up after retiring from playing.

    To put a concrete example in play, could the Spurs write into Tim Duncan's next contract:

    Upon retirement from the NBA, Tim Duncan has the option to purchase 5% of the San Antonio Spurs Franchise from owner Peter Holt for the price of $35,000,000.

    How would such a clause fit into the salary cap? (note that in the example I have included, TD may be getting a pretty nice deal - the value of the Spurs is estimated at $1,000,0000,000, so 5% would be $50,000,000 )
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    Can you work an inverse stock option under the CBA?

    What is an inverse stock option? If a franchise had a "Face of the Franchise" player, and they wanted to reward him at the end of this career, could you put an inverse stock option in his contract: a clause that would allow him the option to buy a fraction of the team for a fixed price upon retirement? I know an active player is not allowed to have an ownership position, so you can't do regular stock options, but the clause would read something like this:

    Upon retirement from the NBA, Player X has the option to purchase n% of Franchise Y from Owner Z for the fixed price of $XXX

    Clearly, this is not an active ownership position, but rather the opportunity to take one up after retiring from playing.

    To put a concrete example in play, could the Spurs write into Tim Duncan's next contract:

    Upon retirement from the NBA, Tim Duncan has the option to purchase 5% of the San Antonio Spurs Franchise from owner Peter Holt for the price of $35,000,000.

    How would such a clause fit into the salary cap? (note that in the example I have included, TD may be getting a pretty nice deal - the value of the Spurs is estimated at $1,000,0000,000, so 5% would be $50,000,000 )
    This isn't an inverse stock option, it's a standard call option. This can be valued by Black-Scholes or some other method, and I am quite certain that the present value of the option would be included as salary in the contract.

    Using your example, the Spurs would be offering an option currently valued at $15M ($50M - $35M) discounted back to the present; call it $12M just for the sake of argument. Duncan can just get that on a normal contract, and the option would count the same as normal salary. That or it would be completely disallowed. You certainly aren't the first person to think of ways to cir vent the CBA, and the NBA understandably has been quite harsh on those who have tried such things in the past.
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