lol Baltimore

[ChumpDumper]

Nice contribution to the thread. What are thoughts on the situation?

I think I haven't seen the evidence. Do you guys have a link to it?

[TheSanityAnnex]

I think I haven't seen the evidence. Do you guys have a link to it?

Of course. Shaun King has already fully investigated and released the info on the daily kos.

[ChumpDumper]

Of course. Shaun King has already fully investigated and released the info on the daily kos.

Nice contribution to the thread.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Nice contribution to the thread.

I assume you'll just fart around here and question others opinions without giving your own until the evidence is presented?

[ChumpDumper]

I assume you'll just fart around here and question others opinions without giving your own until the evidence is presented?

It was a serious question tbh. I only heard a little news today.

[cd021]

Apparently the cops didn't even have cause to arrest Grey. There is evidence that he received the injuries while in the van and his head injury matches a bolt on the van wall. Also he wasn't strapped down, so it appears that he was given a "rough ride" which cause his spine to sever.

[unleashbaynes]

good to see someone at least trying to hold ty cops accountable

[Infinite_limit]

Apparently the cops didn't even have cause to arrest Grey. There is evidence that he received the injuries while in the van and his head injury matches a bolt on the van wall. Also he wasn't strapped down, so it appears that he was given a "rough ride" which cause his spine to sever.

He was loitering around a heavy drug stop. And he had 13 felonies (mostly drugs).

I'd say the Cops definitely did their job.

[ChumpDumper]

He was loitering around a heavy drug stop. And he had 13 felonies (mostly drugs).

I'd say the Cops definitely did their job.

lol

[cd021]

He was loitering around a heavy drug stop. And he had 13 felonies (mostly drugs).

I'd say the Cops definitely did their job.

Thats not probable cause. The prosecutor said that they had no [legal] reason to arrest him in the first place.

[Winehole23]

He was loitering around a heavy drug stop. And he had 13 felonies (mostly drugs).

I'd say the Cops definitely did their job.

loitering and a rap sheet isn't probable cause for an arrest, still less for a rough ride. nice try.

[Winehole23]

The Baltimore prosecutor who brought charges against six cops in the death of Freddie Gray has close ties to the family’s lawyer — who contributed $4,000 to her campaign and served on her transition team.

Veteran attorney Billy Murphy, who is representing Gray’s family, has been a mentor to 35-year-old State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby, prompting critics to say the deck was stacked against the cops.

http://nypost.com/2015/05/01/baltimo...police-family/

lawyers know other lawyers. that's good spin.

[spursncowboys]

lawyers know other lawyers. that's good spin.

No spin for that logic
I think these cops did something criminal
But still think the ag should recuse herself because that is definitely a conflict of interest.

[Trill Clinton]

lol

[boutons_deux]

Thats not probable cause. The prosecutor said that they had no [legal] reason to arrest him in the first place.

carrying a knife, even a switchblade, there is also legal. running from cops isn't a crime, but it insults their bullying, racist egos, so they make the runner pay dearly.

[boutons_deux]

Baltimore police officer Caesar Goodson Jr., 45, allegedly murdered Freddie Gray.

Allen Bullock, 18, smashed a Baltimore police car's windows and windshield with a traffic cone.

Yet the police officer reportedly ended up with a much lower bail than Bullock — a difference that Baltimore protesters say is another sign of a criminal justice system that's skewed in favor of police officers.

Bullock turned himself in after the April 25 Baltimore riots, and, according to the Guardian, his bail was set at $500,000 — a sum his family says they can't afford. His family now says they regret convincing him to turn himself in.

RelatedFreddie Gray shouldn't have been arrested, and he shouldn't have died

Goodson was arrested on Friday after Baltimore's state attorney announced five criminal charges against him: second-degree depraved-heart murder, involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, manslaughter by vehicle (gross negligence), manslaughter by vehicle (criminal negligence), and misconduct in office. His bail was set at $350,000, ?according to the Baltimore Sun's Justin Fenton.

http://www.vox.com/2015/5/2/8534943/...l-freddie-gray

[MultiTroll]

Can't wait to hear the police defense liarwyers account.

An attorney for the union, the Baltimore Fraternal Order of Police, said the officers did nothing wrong.
"No officer injured Mr. Gray, caused harm to Mr. Gray, and they are truly saddened by his death," Michael Davey told reporters.

[ChumpDumper]

No spin for that logic
I think these cops did something criminal
But still think the ag should recuse herself because that is definitely a conflict of interest.

Do you really think she is going to personally represent the state in the courtroom trials?

I don't.

[CosmicCowboy]

I doubt the murder charges make it past a grand jury. This appears to be political grandstanding. The "three black women will get justice for Freddie" comment was appalling.

[ChumpDumper]

I doubt the murder charges make it past a grand jury.

Do you have a link to the evidence?

[CosmicCowboy]

Do you have a link to the evidence?

No I don't, Chump, but the murder charge was on the driver. Have fun trying to prove he drove recklessly with the intent to injure the passenger if all of the other officers and the other prisoner say he didn't.

I'm not saying they are innocent. Failing to get him immediate medical help when it was obvious he asked for it and needed it is criminal and civil negligence at a minimum.

[ChumpDumper]

No I don't, Chump, but the murder charge was on the driver. Have fun trying to prove he drove recklessly with the intent to injure the passenger if all of the other officers and the other prisoner say he didn't.

From what I've heard, I'm not sure intent is necessary here.

[CosmicCowboy]

Well, follow that logic to it's conclusion. Is the sober driver of a car guilty of murder if a passenger dies in a car accident?

[ChumpDumper]

I am also unsure a "rough ride" is being cited in the charges.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, follow that logic to it's conclusion. Is the sober driver of a car guilty of murder if a passenger dies in a car accident?

Depends on what type of murder we're talking about here.

Along with involuntary manslaughter, Officer Goodson, 45, was charged with “second-degree depraved heart murder,” which means indifference to human life.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/02/us...tors.html?_r=0

With that, it might not even matter how Gray got injured. Could be as simple as not giving a once they knew he was injured.