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    He's usually seen as a legend from what I've seen, not sure how he's underrated.

    He was ahead of his time, though, and a blueprint for the modern SF

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    I'd say Babe Ruth rates up there given what he was able to do in his era.
    Little Cal

    What we forget about Ruth is he won 94 games as a pitcher.

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    Okay fine, Ruth was better than Jordan. Greatest all-around player in all of sports.

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    Isn't Pippen considered one of the best 50 players of all time according to the NBA? I dont think hes underrated

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    Babe Ruth the fatass that hit 55 mphs fastballs out of the ballpark. So impressive

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    Isn't Pippen considered one of the best 50 players of all time according to the NBA? I dont think hes underrated
    He gets talked about as an insult nowadays, a synonym for "sidekick," as if DK wasn't 182-228 career, 108-138 with the Bulls, and 2-9 in the postseason without MVPippen.

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    He gets talked about as an insult nowadays, a synonym for "sidekick," as if DK wasn't 182-228 career, 108-138 with the Bulls, and 2-9 in the postseason without MVPippen.
    It's like I always say about MJ, his greatest accomplishment was making everyone think that Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc, Kerr, Paxson, etc were just decent role players

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    Babe Ruth the fatass that hit 55 mphs fastballs out of the ballpark. So impressive
    He also did it when the baseball was more like a softball.

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    Better question would be,,,is Phil Jackson underrated? Seems everyone thinks he only wins with super stars but he guided that Bull team with Pippen as the main guy deep into the playoffs when Jordan was "retired".

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    Yeah, well superstar laden teams aren't easy to manage. Lots of egos to try and meld and get to work together. Granted Pippen was clearly beta to Dad Killer's alpha. An argument can be made for Shaq being Kobe's superior but they were more or less equal, so credit to Colonel Sanders for getting those two to work together for 2, I mean, 3 straight time reaching the podium and being declared champions in the NBA's record book.

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    Phil Jackson took that Bulls team deep into the Eastern playoffs with Pippen and Kukoc as his one two punch,,,dude is the best coach of all time. And everytime he leaves,,,the team wins ,,,,he comes back,,,they win les. And dude owned Pop,,,any of my fellow Spurs fans try and tell you different,,,its just bitterness and envy,,,,Jackson would never bench Duncan up 5 with 30 seconds to go with a le on the line in a game 6 on the road,,,

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    Phil Jackson took that Bulls team deep into the Eastern playoffs with Pippen and Kukoc as his one two punch,,,dude is the best coach of all time. And everytime he leaves,,,the team wins ,,,,he comes back,,,they win les. And dude owned Pop,,,any of my fellow Spurs fans try and tell you different,,,its just bitterness and envy,,,,Jackson would never bench Duncan up 5 with 30 seconds to go with a le on the line in a game 6 on the road,,,
    Truth nukes

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    Pippen would be pretty average in todays game. A long athletic small forward who cant shoot.

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    He gets talked about as an insult nowadays, a synonym for "sidekick," as if DK wasn't 182-228 career, 108-138 with the Bulls, and 2-9 in the postseason without MVPippen.
    MVPippen my ass

    Jordan Win Shares (Regular Season with Pippen)

    YEAR WIN SHARES WS PER 48
    87-88 21.2 .308
    88-89 19.8 .292
    89-90 19.0 .285
    90-91 20.3 .321
    91-92 17.7 .274
    92-93 17.2 .270
    94-95 2.3 .167
    95-96 20.4 .317
    96-97 18.3 .283
    97-98 15.8 .238

















    VS Pippen Win Shares with Jordan (RS)


    YEAR WIN SHARES WS PER 48
    87-88 2.3 .066
    88-89 4.0 .080
    89-90 5.7 .087
    90-91 11.2 .179
    91-92 12.7 .192
    92-93 8.6 .132
    94-95 11.8 .188
    95-96 12.3 .209
    96-97 13.1 .203
    97-98 6.6 .193

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    MVPippen my ass

    Jordan Win Shares (Regular Season with Pippen)

    YEAR WIN SHARES WS PER 48
    87-88 21.2 .308
    88-89 19.8 .292
    89-90 19.0 .285
    90-91 20.3 .321
    91-92 17.7 .274
    92-93 17.2 .270
    94-95 2.3 .167
    95-96 20.4 .317
    96-97 18.3 .283
    97-98 15.8 .238

















    VS Pippen Win Shares with Jordan (RS)


    YEAR WIN SHARES WS PER 48
    87-88 2.3 .066
    88-89 4.0 .080
    89-90 5.7 .087
    90-91 11.2 .179
    91-92 12.7 .192
    92-93 8.6 .132
    94-95 11.8 .188
    95-96 12.3 .209
    96-97 13.1 .203
    97-98 6.6 .193
    Excellent post

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    Pippen was phenomenal. the best wing defender I've ever seen and one of the great offensive forwards. He was extremely athletic even without eastern bloc training methods, and pass, shoot, run, jump and finish ridiculously well.

    Problem is that he really isn't the type of player who can lead the team to a le in the 90s. He defers too much and can be shut down with team defense focused on him.

    He would be great in today's game though, like a less bulky lebron or a healthy Paul George on steroids mixed with Kawhi's defense.

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    Pippen was phenomenal. the best wing defender I've ever seen and one of the great offensive forwards. He was extremely athletic even without eastern bloc training methods, and pass, shoot, run, jump and finish ridiculously well.

    Problem is that he really isn't the type of player who can lead the team to a le in the 90s. He defers too much and can be shut down with team defense focused on him.

    He would be great in today's game though, like a less bulky lebron or a healthy Paul George on steroids mixed with Kawhi's defense.

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    Pippen was phenomenal. the best wing defender I've ever seen and one of the great offensive forwards. He was extremely athletic even without eastern bloc training methods, and pass, shoot, run, jump and finish ridiculously well.

    Problem is that he really isn't the type of player who can lead the team to a le in the 90s. He defers too much and can be shut down with team defense focused on him.

    He would be great in today's game though, like a less bulky lebron or a healthy Paul George on steroids mixed with Kawhi's defense.
    I say again, his legacy to me is 2000 Western Conference Finals Game 7, the fourth quarter most specifically.

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    I say again, his legacy to me is 2000 Western Conference Finals Game 7, the fourth quarter most specifically.
    I agree but I felt it was not just game 7 and that the Blazers screwed around throughout that series. They could have won both games at home and gone up 3-1 but instead went down 3-1. I attribute the Blazers messing around in that series to Pippen's poor leadership skills.

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    I agree but I felt it was not just game 7 and that the Blazers screwed around throughout that series. They could have won both games at home and gone up 3-1 but instead went down 3-1. I attribute the Blazers messing around in that series to Pippen's poor leadership skills.
    ...& to Kobe's strong sacroiliac. Carrying Daddy away from his own funeral pyre wasn't no picnic.

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    ...& to Kobe's strong sacroiliac. Carrying Daddy away from his own funeral pyre wasn't no picnic.
    Nah. Kobe missed 6 FTs in that game (6-12 from the line). He was shaky and nervous.

    The Blazers pretty much fell on their own sword un-abetted.

    But if we should anoint a Laker hero in that game, it's Brian Shaw. Carried both Kobe and Daddy away from the pyre.

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    Nah. Kobe missed 6 FTs in that game (6-12 from the line). He was shaky and nervous.

    The Blazers pretty much fell on their own sword un-abetted.

    But if we should anoint a Laker hero in that game, it's Brian Shaw. Carried both Kobe and Daddy away from the pyre.
    No, it was Kobe who with jacks & timbers started back down...then carried Daddy to the surface again and made the next NBA le probable, and the 4 after that possible.

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    No, it was Kobe who with jacks & timbers started back down...then carried Daddy to the surface again and made the next NBA le probable, and the 4 after that possible.
    He missed 6 FTs.

    Shaw and even Horry drug you out of the fire there.

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