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I don't think they do either which is why I think we haven't heard anything on any charges. They are probably trying real hard right now to get him on something just to satisfy the outragers.
Honestly, I'm not sure authorities have a strong case, but public outcry being what it is, I think they'll find something to get him on.
I don't think they do either which is why I think we haven't heard anything on any charges. They are probably trying real hard right now to get him on something just to satisfy the outragers.
The real question is were the guides real guides? Were they employed by the park?
For real.
Man who studied Cecil the lion for 9 years talks impact
JOHANNESBURG (AP) — When Cecil the lion's carcass was finally found after he was lured out of a Zimbabwe wildlife reserve to be killed by an American hunter, it was a headless, skinless skeleton the vultures had been picking at for about a week.
Conservationists decided the most natural thing was to leave the bones where they were for hyenas to finish off, said Brent Stapelkamp, a lion researcher and part of a team that had tracked and studied Cecil for nine years.
Stapelkamp darted Cecil and put his last GPS collar on in October. He was probably the last person to get up close before Minnesota dentist Walter Palmer used a bow and a gun to kill the now-famous lion with the bushy black mane, its head and skin eventually cut off as trophies. Stapelkamp had first alerted authorities that something might be wrong after Cecil's GPS collar stopped sending a signal.
The killing of the big cat in early July has unleashed global outrage, sending Palmer into hiding back home in suburban Minneapolis, leading to the arrest of the local hunter he employed, and prompting Zimbabwe's environment minister to say the southern African country would seek Palmer's extradition to face charges.
Stapelkamp shares the anger, not just because of the demise of Cecil. Also because, he said, it's not the first time a lion has been killed illegally around Hwange National Park in northwestern Zimbabwe, a reserve known for its rich wildlife. About a dozen lions in the region were killed illegally in recent years, Stapelkamp said, and no one was caught.
"I think this was just the final straw," Stapelkamp told The Associated Press in a phone interview from the Hwange reserve. "Everyone locally just thought, no ways, we're not letting anyone get away with this anymore."
Cecil had an intriguing story, making him a celebrity in Hwange. He arrived as a kind of lion refugee, alone and wandering after being displaced from another territory. Cecil befriended another male lion, Jericho, and together they grew and watched over two prides, one with three lionesses and seven cubs and another with three lionesses.
The satellite collar on Jericho has been sending normal signals, indicating the lion is alive and moving around, Stapelkamp said.
But Cecil's killing will have an impact on the area, explained Stapelkamp, a field researcher for an Oxford University study on lions.
Jericho may not be able to hold their territory alone and could be chased away by rival lions. Unprotected, the lionesses and cubs would then be under threat and also move away or be killed. Safari operators who invested millions of dollars in the area would lose one of their biggest attractions for tourists.
"They're burning fire breaks. They're grading roads. They're pumping water," Stapelkamp said. "They're spending a lot of money in the management of lions and then someone just draws it across the railway lines having not paid a penny in its management and shoots it and runs away with its skin. It's unacceptable."
Zimbabwe's National Parks and Wildlife Authority said Saturday it has suspended the hunting of lions, leopards and elephants outside of Hwange National Park, and that bow and arrow hunts have also been suspended unless they are approved by the authority's director.
The authority also said it is investigating the killing of another lion in April that may have been illegal.
Stapelkamp, unsure of the details of Cecil's killing, described the usual tactics of hunters to draw an animal onto private land and out of the park where it is protected. The two areas are separated by a railway line. Hunters shoot a zebra or giraffe and hang it on a tree; the main bait. They then drag the intestines of that animal, "something that really smells," Stapelkamp said, up and down the park boundary behind a vehicle. Sometimes they'll even play the sounds of a dying buffalo over a loudspeaker to attract a lion.
The lion "comes across that scent trail and it leads him straight to this bait," Stapelkamp said. "It rushes in for a free meal and they're waiting ... and they kill him like that."
Even on private land, this hunt was still illegal, Stapelkamp said, because no hunting quotas for lions were issued in the region this year. Legal hunts do happen, he said, but only after authorities consult with ecologists and decide that it won't adversely affect the area.
This didn't happen with Cecil, Stapelkamp said, and he doesn't believe Palmer's story that he trusted his professional guide to ensure a legal hunt.
"He's a well-educated man, he's got a lot of resources," Stapelkamp said. "You could do your homework. Due diligence. You would know that you're hunting in a controversial area. You've got a GPS you could have in your pocket and you have a look at the map, and you say, 'listen, friend, I think we're in the wrong area.' There's no excuse."
Palmer came "with the intention of getting the biggest lion that he could and getting out. And he got caught," Stapelkamp said.
http://m.sfgate.com/news/world/artic...ks-6419166.php
Your brain apparently can't process much better than that of an early teenager. I don't know why anyone, myself included, tries to reason or debate you. You're a ing moron who ignores facts and just makes up.
Here, let me ing help you, idiot:
http://www.zimparks.org/index.php/mc...heo-bronkhorst
Mr Honest Trymore Ndlovu owner of Antoinette farm was issued with a hunting quota for 2015 which excluded lions. Antoinette Farm is located in Gwayi River Conservancy in the Hwange Rural District and is adjacent to Hwange National Park. The professional hunter is alleged to have connived with the Antoinette land owner to kill the lion. The incident came to the attention of the Authority on the 7th of July 2015 through an informer. This was followed by an investigation which clearly demonstrated that the illegal killing was deliberate. Firstly the land owner was not allocated a lion on his hunting quota for 2015. Secondly, the use of a bow and an arrow was meant to conceal the illegal hunt by using a means that would not alert the rangers on patrol.
Execution of the illegal hunt violated a number of provisions of the Parks and Wildlife Act.
- The professional hunter violated Section 66 of the Act which regulates the manner in which trophy hunts are conducted.
- Both the client, Dr Palmer and the professional hunter violated Section 123 of the Act which controls the use of bow and arrow for hunting.
- The client also violated the Act through financing an illegal hunt.
- The land owner violated Section 59 of the Act which controls hunting on private land in that he allowed a hunt to be conduct without quota and necessary permit.
From investigations carried out so far it shows that the whole poaching event was properly orchestrated and well financed to make sure that it succeeds. The professional hunter, client and land owner were therefore all engaged in poaching of the lion.
Ignores facts and makes up describes your debate tactics concerning trophy hunting and conservation. Unless you are just really stupid and didn't realize all of the data you were arguing for was from 2004. Which one was it?
It's a ing lion. Who cares?
A ton of people, hence the public outcry.
That ton of people needs something better to do
What the do you care? Ignore it.
The he reality is you just wanted to come in here and look hard because you don't give a about lions.
Real tough.
The reality is I said people shouldn't care. Your attempt to flip it back on me fails, pussy.
People need better things to focus on than a lin
What the do you care what people focus on?The reality is I said people shouldn't care. Your attempt to flip it back on me fails, pussy.
People need better things to focus on than a li
I read someplace that the guide and farmer were arrested. The guide faces as much as 15 years. As a licensed guide, it was his responsibility for the baiting part and knowledge that Cecil was from a protected area. The farmer was let go and not charged.
There's only 20-32k left in the world; 600-1000 are killed each year for one reason or another.
I can see why people care. It'll make watching Lion King with kids awkward if they're extinct.
This is an established business in Zimbabwe. This might be a normal price due to supply and demand, and what the guide pays for licensing. Unless you compile the costs, you shouldn't jump to such conclusions.
Ignorance of the law may or may not be in play here. Palmer may have asked the guide about using a crossbow. Maybe the guide only said something like it will cost you more. The guide is responsible for insuring its a legal hunt, regardless of his clients knowledge of the law. This is why he guide is facing a possible 15 year jail sentence. The proper legal minimum size ammunition was not used, and that is Palmers only crime. It caused for the chase to go on for 40 hours after he shot Cecil with the bolt. We don't know yet if Palmer knew the crossbow was legal or not.
Imagine, running and hiding with a crossbow bolt in your body, for 40 hrs. This was inhumane.
"if he genuinely didn't know"
poor wealthy dentist blowing $55K to kill protected lion, and he just got duped, didn't do his homework, couldn't afford a GPS.
"the Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force says that Cecil the Lion was lured out of the protected game reserve area by Palmer’s hunting party:
On or about the 6th July 2015, Walter James Palmer was taken to Hwange National Park by professional hunter Theo Bronkhorst. They went hunting at night with a spotlight and they spotted Cecil.
They tied a dead animal to their vehicle to lure Cecil out of the park and they scented an area about half a kilometre from the park.
Mr Palmer shot Cecil with a bow and arrow, but this shot didn’t kill him. They tracked him down and found him 40 hours later, when they shot him with a gun.
They found that he was fitted with a GPS collar because he was being studied by the Hwange Lion Research, funded by Oxford University, so they tried to destroy the collar but failed because it was found."
Read more at http://m.snopes.com/2015/07/29/cecil...aCl8Rij9HYp.99
So Mr Wealthy Dentist knew he had killed a protected lion and tried to cover up his crime, instead of reporting it to the authorities as an "accident".
So would that be like a traffic ticket here?
What do the various states do to people if they have a deer permit, but take an elk instead?
His life is already damaged or ruined by media exposure. Isn't that enough?
They have a strong case. Palmer used illegal ammunition for the hunt. How serious of a crime this is over here needs to be answered.
Making a case to show any other wrongdoings would be hard under US law, but this isn't US law over there.
They have to search for a law the USA has that matches his crime there. I don't see what that will be. But that is a requirement of our treaty with them.
Any ideas?
Maybe they are scouring our books to see if an state has minimum ammunition size to hunt game here.
Dentist is probably worth several $Ms, he can hire top lawyers to delay extraction, or any punishment, for years. He can also pay PR firms to spread favorable propaganda and whitewashing.
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