NBA: Current top ten?

[djohn2oo8]

It's early, but Harden's drop off is notable so far

He just dropped back to back 40 point games.

[apalisoc_9]

Quick question, why give Davis the benefit ofnthe doubt but not Griffin?

[TD 21]

Can't really rely on this season, exclusively, since it has only been 2 weeks..a lot of negative/positive regression will occur soon..

If we're combining past + present IMO:

1. Lebron
2. Curry
3. Davis(benefit of the doubt)
4. Harden(benefit of the doubt)
5. Westbrook
6. Griffin
7. Durant
8. Paul
9. Leonard
10. Cousins

I thought post prime Sabonis/prime Divac was the best center in the league?


1. James
2. Durant
3. Davis
4. Curry
5. Harden
6. Paul
7. Griffin
8. Westbrook
9. Leonard
10. Cousins

[DAF86]

Can't really rely on this season, exclusively, since it has only been 2 weeks..a lot of negative/positive regression will occur soon..

If we're combining past + present IMO:

1. Lebron
2. Curry
3. Davis(benefit of the doubt)
4. Harden(benefit of the doubt)
5. Westbrook
6. Griffin
7. Durant
8. Paul
9. Leonard
10. Cousins

Why the benefit of the doubt for Harden and Davis but not Durant?

[DAF86]

Smh

What's the problem son?

[Kawhitstorm]

I dont know that seems a bit tough to say ...he is amazing at his ability to disrupt sets dig on bigs and disrupt passing lanes but I dont think I would choose him first if I needed to "lockdown" a PG ...but there arent many good defensive PG's so you may be right. I think Russell has the best defensive tools but he doesnt put it together or has the natural instincts CP3 does ...

Westbrook as a "lockdown" defender

-Marcus Smart & Elfrid Payton are the best defensive point guards.

-John Wall has surpassed Cp3 as the best 2 way point guards; Kyle Lowry is top 3

-Avery Bradley is the best defender amongst combo guards

-Patrick Beverley & Cory Josephs are the best defensive backup point guards

[sook]

It's early, but Harden's drop off is notable so far

Player of the week.

http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/jame...ce-player-week

Harden (6-5, 220) helped the Rockets to a 4-0 mark last week, including wins vs. Oklahoma City on Monday, Nov. 2 and at the L.A. Clippers on Saturday, Nov. 7. For the week, he averaged 38.5 points, 5.5 rebounds, 5.5 assists and 1.50 steals in 41.0 minutes per game while shooting 46.4% from the floor, 34.9% from 3-point range and 84.5% from the line.

I think the poor play first 3 games had to a with a lot of the the drama surrounding that fat Kartrashian . Since then, he's been playing like last season.

[Killakobe81]

Westbrook as a "lockdown" defender

-Marcus Smart & Elfrid Payton are the best defensive point guards.

-John Wall has surpassed Cp3 as the best 2 way point guards; Kyle Lowry is top 3

-Avery Bradley is the best defender amongst combo guards

-Patrick Beverley & Cory Josephs are the best defensive backup point guards

Never said he was lockdown. i only said he has the tools. I agree Marcus Smart is amazing I actually think he may be better than Payton. I also agree that Wall may have surpassed CP3 ...
Not sure what you are laughing at ...

[RsxPiimp]

Prime Harden putting up Achilles Kobe efficiency


37 %FG
24% 3FG
5 TO/Game
42% of his points coming from charity stripe

[RsxPiimp]

Never said he was lockdown. i only said he has the tools. I agree Marcus Smart is amazing I actually think he may be better than Payton. I also agree that Wall may have surpassed CP3 ...
Not sure what you are laughing at ...

Wall is horrible offensively tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

Prime Harden putting up Achilles Kobe efficiency


37 %FG
24% 3FG
5 TO/Game
42% of his points coming from charity stripe

Achilles Kobe is actually lower.

[RsxPiimp]

Achilles Kobe is actually lower.

... that's actually a pretty low expectation you have for your franchise player

[djohn2oo8]

... that's actually a pretty low expectation you have for your franchise player

No, low expectations would be making the lottery for the fourth straight year with your franchise player.

[Killakobe81]

No, low expectations would be making the lottery for the fourth straight year with your franchise player.

Lakers only in 2 lotteries so far ... but I think 3 straight are on tap ...

[DMC]

Lakers only in 2 lotteries so far ... but I think 3 straight are on tap ...

Yeah there was that SWEEP prior to the tank convoy.

[LkrFan]

1) Kang
2) Curry
3) Durant
4) Griffin
5) Harden
6) Davis
7) Westbrook
8) Paul
9) Lillard
10) George

[Kawhitstorm]

Never said he was lockdown. i only said he has the tools. I agree Marcus Smart is amazing I actually think he may be better than Payton. I also agree that Wall may have surpassed CP3 ...
Not sure what you are laughing at ...

Westbrook was DPOY in the Pac-10 so he has always had the tool, it's just that he is committed to playing lockdown defense & prefers to be a ball-hawk ala Iverson. His athleticism & size enables him to get by along w/ getting opposing point guards in foul trouble & making them expend a lot of energy. Otherwise, he has all the tools to be as good as prime Wade on defense but at the moment their defense hinges on Ibaka erasing their mistakes.

[Kawhitstorm]

Wall is horrible offensively tbh.

Could you please elaborate?. He can't carry the offense & play lockdown defense when Beal is out but otherwise he is a very good on ball /help defender & doesn't gamble. He completely shut down All-Star Lowry in this past postseason.

[RsxPiimp]

Could you please elaborate?. He can't carry the offense & play lockdown defense when Beal is out but otherwise he is a very good on ball /help defender & doesn't gamble. He completely shut down All-Star Lowry in this past postseason.

Love his defense like you said. I'm a DC native so I honestly watch/saw several Wizards games, his offense is just atrocious unlike many of his elite contemporaries (Irving, CP3 for example) his lack of a jumper and generally poor scoring skills is what's holding him from belonging to Tier 1 status. The rest of his game is solid though.

[Kawhitstorm]

Love his defense like you said. I'm a DC native so I honestly watch/saw several Wizards games, his offense is just atrocious unlike many of his elite contemporaries (Irving, CP3 for example) his lack of a jumper and generally poor scoring skills is what's holding him from belonging to Tier 1 status. The rest of his game is solid though.

He's a Rondo clone; he isn't going to be an elite scorer or a go to guy at the end of games. He might be a better fit w/ KD though since he's a willing passer.

[RsxPiimp]

He's a Rondo clone; he isn't going to be an elite scorer or a go to guy at the end of games. He might be a better fit w/ KD though since he's a willing passer.

+1. He's elite in playmaking considering the quality of players he's been with...

[The Third Man]

... that's actually a pretty low expectation you have for your franchise player

Focus on the death of Kobe, your brain dead coach, losing your lottery pick and Fredo Buss driving the family ride into the ing Marianas Trench. Harden's ing aces compared to your clogged toilet of a franchise.

[DAF86]

Updated for next season.

1-Lebron
2-Curry
3-Durant
4-Leonard
5-Davis
6-Paul
7-Westbrook
8-George
9-Harden
10-Aldridge/Draymond/Griffin

[djohn2oo8]

Updated for next season.

1-Lebron
2-Curry
3-Durant
4-Leonard
5-Davis
6-Paul
7-Westbrook
8-George
9-Harden
10-Aldridge

Wait, Leonard better than Davis, Paul, Westbrook, George, Harden, and Aldridge?

[HarlemHeat37]

1. Lebron
2. Dominos
3. Curry
4. Leonard
5. Westbrook
6. Paul
7. Davis
8. Harden
9. George
10. Draymond