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didn't kawhi top this list last season?.mm ..it is early..he will climb ip
Tim Duncan is just eternal..It is incredible what he is doing at his age..
Correction: Kawhi finished 5th RPM; 6TH DRPM last season..
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM
Duncan has the highest Defensive RPM on the entire list.
Other placements for Spurs:
Patty Mills #47 (+1.92)
Manu Ginobili #73 (+1.19)
LaMarcus Aldridge #119 (+0.39)
Boris Diaw #120 (+0.36)
Tony Parker #123 (+0.32)
David West #128 (+0.28)
Danny Green #325 (-2.30)
Thoughts? I really didn't think Danny would be that low.
didn't kawhi top this list last season?.mm ..it is early..he will climb ip
Tim Duncan is just eternal..It is incredible what he is doing at his age..
Correction: Kawhi finished 5th RPM; 6TH DRPM last season..
We'll see how Green goes from here. His average so far hasn't been good enough.
And #1 in DRPM in front of 2nd place DJ by almost an entire point
Kyle Anderson ranked 24th among SF and 178th overall. (-.33)
What is Real Plus - Minus
Pounding the s Michael Ehler attempts to explain:
http://www.poundingtherock.com/2014/...eal-plus-minus
along with Kyle Wagner from deadspin:
http://regressing.deadspin.com/just-...a-s-1560361469
Props to Zaza for maintaining impressive numbers with a different team.
Tony Parker 2014-15 ORPM: 0.18 DPRM: -3.33 RPM:-3.15
Tony Parker 2015-16 ORPM: 2.18 DRPM: -1.86 RPM: 0.32
Most improved Spur
Danny Green 2014-15: ORPM: 3.25 DRPM: 2.16 RPM: 5.41
Danny Green 2015-16:ORPM: -2.64 DRPM: 0.34 RPM: -2.30
Spurs can't win a 'ship with Green putting up numbers like this. You'd expect those kind of numbers from a role player coming off the bench, not from supposedly one of, if not, the best all around shooting guard in the league. I'll refrain from posting Butler's numbers in comparison to Green's because "he's fool's gold and a playoff proven choker."
Why the is Draymond in the sf category?
Confused about Manu's rating...team has performed infinitely better with him on the court vs. off
The DRPM needs working on, for some reason it's not as accurate as the ORPM, at least it doesn't seem so. Leonard's obviously been the best defender on this roster by far, but not only is he way behind TD, he's 60th in the NBA overall.
I'd hate to criticize Manu on anything, but since you asked, he's not been good in transition D. His defense is not what it used to be, and he's been caught ball-watching and out of position at times too. He is still very capable of fantastic defensive plays though, which is why these things don't stand out as much, but his consistency is not there at this point.
We can't expect more form him though. The man is 38 and he already expends an incredible amount of energy with his style of play and has been instrumental bringing the team back from deficits early in the season.
DRPM is flawed & shouldn't be used for comparing players on different teams. Mediocre defenders can be hidden on elite defensive teams (usually PFs that play along side defensive centers) & their rating won't suffer unless their backup is a defensive stud while players that play w/ ty defenders will have inflated DRPMs (usually shot blockers).
Cancerneli isn't on the roster & Butler/Kyle have been pretty good defensively so there isn't as much drop off as last season when Kawhi is off the floor. Ron Artest is ranked higher than Kawhi b/c he backups Kobe/Randle.
Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 11-25-2015 at 02:19 AM.
The team has been coughing up leads in the 4th quarter w/ the bench unit by getting pounded on the offensive boards/committing turnovers. The team has performed infinitely better on OFFENSE w/ him on the floor b/c Danny has been atrocious to start the season.
Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 11-24-2015 at 04:37 PM.
Sample size makes the numbers largely meaningless, tbh..end of December should see more accuracy..
RAPM is better than RPM, tbh, anyways..
Manu ranks 4th in the NBA in NPI-RAPM and PI-RAPM, and Kawhi ranks 5th in the NBA in PI-RAPM..
danny will be fine. Advanced metrics are meaningful only after a bigger sample.
Meh. Say it's Kawhi if you want, but in these first dozen or so games at least, you can't say it's him by far. Even in the changing NBA elite defensive bigs provide more value than wings.
lol Ty Lawson
Ty Lawson -3.91 -1.68 -5.59
You would think Timmy is too slow to be an elite defender anymore, and he does look too slow on some possessions, but I guess slow Timmy is still a better defender than 95% of the NBA.
Kobe Bryant is #381 out of 409 players.
Whattaya bet Bryant makes the All Star team and Leonard doesn't?
Then Bryant complains about his numerical ranking by ESPN (again).
Then he hires a film crew to follow him around at All Star Weekend . . .
(You probably think I'm kidding about the last one. But I'm not.)
I actually don't think Kawhi is as dominant defensively this year either. As good as he is on offense, I think I'd like to see us get more Aldridge involved and have Kawhi more engaged on defense again.
Having Aldridge as go-to guy is fine, with Kawhi as second option. Come playoff time we're going to need Alrdidge to perform offensively and Kawhi to lock people down. I'd prefer to see Aldridge up at 20+ppg with a higher usage rate and Kawhi somewhere around 15-18 on efficient shooting. With how good he's become you can always go to him whenever you need - I think the real problem is getting Aldridge's confidence and stroke to elite level again.
Tim blowing out second place DRPM
2015-16 Real Plus-Minus
RK NAME TEAM GP MPG ORPM DRPM RPM WAR 1 Tim Duncan, C SA 14 27.6 0.11 4.83 4.94 1.81 2 DeAndre Jordan, C LAC 13 33.0 0.09 3.90 3.99 1.77 3 Andre Drummond, C DET 14 35.8 -0.14 3.89 3.75 2.12
Bad year for North Carolina basketball
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