Raymond Green is overrated AF

[spurraider21]

Comparing antiquated 3 point shooters with Curry, Durant, and Klay.

allen is the goat shooter outside of curry (most 3pm ever, including clutch shots)... and pierce is #4 all time in 3 pointers made

and green was leading GSW to playoff wins last year even when curry was out (and obviously, durant wasn't on the team). you act like he shrivels up and sucks when the other guys miss games. sure, he benefits from their presence (who wouldn't?) but he's still a very good player when they're out. that's not even in question unless you just make up off the top of your head because it sounds nice for your argument

green wouldn't be a good #1 offensive option, but i dont think that's required to be an all-star, especially when you're an elite defender

[spurraider21]

posters are letting personal feelings impact their judgment. green is a mouth-breathing, unlikeable, dirty pos, but he's a very good player

[james evans]

In the future, I'd like to see the officials call Green for a foul when he blocks dunks. He likes to use his forearm to get leverage on his jump and bring the dunker down for a block. He did it twice today and probably countless other times.

[daslicer]

posters are letting personal feelings impact their judgment. green is a mouth-breathing, unlikeable, dirty pos, but he's a very good player

Disagreement has nothing to do with feelings influencing judgment. Sounds like you are letting your ego get the better of you.

[spurraider21]

Disagreement has nothing to do with feelings influencing judgment. Sounds like you are letting your ego get the better of you.

when the counterpoints are fabricated or irrational (as in claiming ray allen and paul pierce aren't all-time shooters)... it's not objective at that point, and it's known that dabom has personal disdain towards draymond because he's sensitive to any player that gets kawhi comparisons in any way

[dabom]

Dude is still fluffing raymond?

[rasuo214]

Well even if that was the case he was still considered an undisputed all-star this year, why? The hype machine.

And I think last year was more out of the norm for him than this year. Career year last year but has seemingly come back down to earth. 42% this year, 44% two years ago, 43.5% for his career. That's Tony Allen-esque.

Tony Allen is an awful 3pt shooter but he still has a 47.5 FG%.

Draymond's percentages are on par with the likely MVP (Westbrook). Maybe Draymond needs to find a team that will let him chuck up 20+ shots a night.

[spurraider21]

arguing tony allen is a better offensive player than green... seriously?

[TheGreatYacht]

Should be 3x DPOY by now tbh

[dabom]

Kawhi literally could defend better with a cardboard cut out instead of his starting pg.

[rasuo214]

arguing tony allen is a better offensive player than green... seriously?

If you're responding to me try re-reading.

[Fireball]

i hate raymond more than anything else (well, not as much as dabom) ... but people here playing down his superior defensive impact are only watching Kawhi with pink goggles

[RD2191]

System player, a product of Curry... He's basically 1st season DeJuan Blair with ACLs...

Has his coach, teammates and himself hyping and begging to get personal accolades, disgusting

He's a fat, undersized Leon Powe, tbh, in the right place at the right time

OP dropping truth nukes per day usual.

[140]

I'd still take "antiquated" Ray Allen over known playoff chokers like Stephanie, Durbeta and Klaynus, tbh.

Today's NBA

[spursistan]

Raymond doesn't give a about bullying the beta in front of everyone ..Holy look at KD submissiveness ..

[NameLess Scrub]

Raymond can get away anytime, there was another play during the first half that got away with murder, it was a block on Krabbe I think, slaps elbows, wrists and nobody says a thing.

He then proceeds to gloat like he's a GOAT shot blocker

[NameLess Scrub]

To add to that, he also gets away with blatant screaming in officials face after every damn call against him. It one thing to argue calls. It another to point in their faces and scream right at them, and have them actually walk far away just to avoid given him the T's.

It's WWE level enabling.

And people were complaining that the refs decided the Finals by suspending him

DeJuan Blair cost the Mavs a series too, tbh... 'impactful' is relative... just sayin'...

A punch in the nuts is pretty impactful.

In the future, I'd like to see the officials call Green for a foul when he blocks dunks. He likes to use his forearm to get leverage on his jump and bring the dunker down for a block. He did it twice today and probably countless other times.

+1

[SpursFan86]

Draymond is an annoying piece of , but there's no denying that he's a top 3 defensive player in the league and is still a net positive on offense. He's a top 15-20 player in the league. Would you want him as the 1st option on your team? Of course not...that doesn't mean he doesn't have a huge impact on games and isn't an all-star caliber player.

That being said, I think it's a shame that he's going to get DPOY over Gobert. Gobert definitely deserves it IMO.

[dabom]

Draymond is an annoying piece of , but there's no denying that he's a top 3 defensive player in the league and is still a net positive on offense. He's a top 15-20 player in the league. Would you want him as the 1st option on your team? Of course not...that doesn't mean he doesn't have a huge impact on games and isn't an all-star caliber player.

That being said, I think it's a shame that he's going to get DPOY over Gobert. Gobert definitely deserves it IMO.

I always see you snobbing other team players.

[RD2191]

this overrated piece of . Probably one of the most overrated defenders of all time. Spurs need to go hard at this punk .

[ElNono]

bump, tbh... dude is all hype... bailed out by Curry again, should've fouled out 3 times in this game, tbh

[FkLA]

Amazing role player.

Unquestionable all-star and Top 15 player is a bit much though.

[RodNIc91]

Like Dabom said, supposedly guarding 1-5

can't guard Kawhi. Period.

[dabom]

Besides one game. I have yet to see the Warriors stop Kawhi. EVER.

Isn't raymond supposed to defend the 1-5? Why isn't he ever on Kawhi?

Like Dabom said, supposedly guarding 1-5

can't guard Kawhi. Period.

[Splits]

Never forget, ST. This got started the game thread with Kawhi's "healed ankle" in the le.

got.