Is Argentina the equivalent of a cute regular season team in the nba?

[turkish spurs fan]

Were you talking of the present? Then why is Italy "good"? They haven't made it out of the group stage in the last 2 WCs.

2006 champion. 2012 euro runner up. world cups are more enternatining but everybody know that european championships are more difficult. also i didn't say perfect, i said good. if you really think argentina did well with their full of stars, you are underestimating the quality of your team.

argentina basketball > argentina football

turkey is always a surprise. u can not guess. entertaining but no continuity . maybe equal to phoenix suns.

[lefty]

[DAF86]

2006 champion. 2012 euro runner up. world cups are more enternatining but everybody know that european championships are more difficult. also i didn't say perfect, i said good. if you really think argentina did well with their full of stars, you are underestimating the quality of your team.

argentina basketball > argentina football

turkey is always a surprise. u can not guess. entertaining but no continuity . maybe equal to phoenix suns.

That's just some re ed self-centered Euros repeat without any kind of argument to back it up. Reminds me of English folks hyping up the Premier League.

If the Euros are harder how can it be that Italy made the final in the Euros but couldn't even get out of the group stage in the WC?

You talk about Italy being good because of a WC won on penalties a decade ago and a continental final. On that time Argentina has 2 continental finals, and a WC final. Only difference being Italy won its penalty shootout.

And no, Argie basketball isn't > than Argie football. Argentina in football is a top 2, top 3 team in the World right now. In basketball they are just a bunch of washed up dudes, tbh.

[turkish spurs fan]

one simple argument (like you say italy) doesn't prove anything. european championships "weak" teams are stronger then WC's. coPa america is just muppet show if compare european CH.

in basketball, argentina did great things with great warriors. argie football have talents but loser tbh

That's just some re ed self-centered Euros repeat without any kind of argument to back it up. Reminds me of English folks hyping up the Premier League.

If the Euros are harder how can it be that Italy made the final in the Euros but couldn't even get out of the group stage in the WC?

You talk about Italy being good because of a WC won on penalties a decade ago and a continental final. On that time Argentina has 2 continental finals, and a WC final. Only difference being Italy won its penalty shootout.

And no, Argie basketball isn't > than Argie football. Argentina in football is a top 2, top 3 team in the World right now. In basketball they are just a bunch of washed up dudes, tbh.

[DAF86]

one simple argument (like you say italy) doesn't prove anything. european championships "weak" teams are stronger then WC's. coPa america is just muppet show if compare european CH.

in basketball, argentina did great things with great warriors. argie football have talents but loser tbh

Portugal, semifinalist in the last 2 euros eliminated in the group stage.
Spain, champion of the last 2 euros, eliminated in the group stage.

The only place where Australia (or some other low tier team of the WC) is less than ing Slovenia (or whatever other generic ty team that makes the Euros, like Turkey for example, tbh ) is in the mind of re ed self-centered Europeans. Just there, nowhere else.

[lefty]

Messi's Argentina = 90s Jazz tbh


Messilone

[turkish spurs fan]

Portugal, semifinalist in the last 2 euros eliminated in the group stage.
Spain, champion of the last 2 euros, eliminated in the group stage.

The only place where Australia (or some other low tier team of the WC) is less than ing Slovenia (or whatever other generic ty team that makes the Euros, like Turkey for example, tbh ) is in the mind of re ed self-centered Europeans. Just there, nowhere else.

argentina have the same number of semifinals with turkey in last 6 WCs just the 6 of 24 semifinalists are from south america. 17 of them are europeans. : )

[DAF86]

argentina have the same number of semifinals with turkey in last 6 WCs just the 6 of 24 semifinalists are from south america. 17 of them are europeans. : )

Yeah well. We are just 10 countries. You are like a hundred countries all jammed up in a territory the size of Brazil.

[ElNono]

argentina have the same number of semifinals with turkey in last 6 WCs just the 6 of 24 semifinalists are from south america. 17 of them are europeans. : )

that's because europe sends over 2x the amount of teams, tbh... in light of that, it's actually embarrassing that the all time Finals appearances rank looks like this:

Germany (8)
Brazil (7)
Italy (6)
Argentina (5)

That said, even if teams like Switzerland or Bosnia are terrible, it's even worse that Africa and Asia send 9 teams combined... Ivory Coast, Iran, Japan, etc have no business in a World Cup, tbh...

[apalisoc_9]

Europe is still the best Continent but Europeans are delusional if they think they Euros are more difficult. One, you have South America..

And two International teams are much more compe ive nowadys. Continental powehouses like the USA-Mexico-Japan-Australia-Korea-an african team have repeadtly caused problems for European 2nd tier teams in the last 4 world cups.

That opinion would hold true in 1994 or something but even then you had really good teams like Belguim (very good that year) getting their pushed by the likes of Saudi Arabia

[apalisoc_9]

that's because europe sends over 2x the amount of teams, tbh... in light of that, it's actually embarrassing that the all time Finals appearances rank looks like this:

Germany (8)
Brazil (7)
Italy (6)
Argentina (5)

That said, even if teams like Switzerland or Bosnia are terrible, it's even worse that Africa and Asia send 9 teams combined... Ivory Coast, Iran, Japan, etc have no business in a World Cup, tbh...

Those are decent teams. Have people not caught up to the fact that Even Iran was better than ing Bosnia in the last world cup.

[turkish spurs fan]

Yeah well. We are just 10 countries. You are like a hundred countries all jammed up in a territory the size of Brazil.

so euros have more top level teams, european championships are more difficult then your continental cup.

do u remember the last min freekick of messi in WC 2014. maradona > messi

[apalisoc_9]

Again, this isnt 94..

[DAF86]

so euros have more top level teams, european championships are more difficult then your continental cup.

do u remember the last min freekick of messi in WC 2014. maradona > messi

Actually, South America has the top level team. Brazil is the daddy of all (except Argentina, tbh ). The tiest teams in Europe are also like a million times tier than the tiest teams in South America. So not only South America has the highest peak, we also have the highest floor. But like we aren't self-centered bags we don't go around saying our compe ions are harder than the WC.

[ElNono]

Those are decent teams. Have people not caught up to the fact that Even Iran was better than ing Bosnia in the last world cup.

Come on son... they're all terrible, filler teams. The only reason we see Bosnia or Switzerland in the World Cup is because UEFA sends 13 teams, which is something that should really change. If the champ or host isn't from South America, we get the same amount of spots as Africa, which is not even half of what Europe gets. It's ridiculous.

There's obviously business reasons to expand the amount of teams and make it diverse, we all understand that, but it ends up making a ty product, tbh... you watch some of these underdog teams, and all you're wondering is if they can park two more buses to hold on to the 0-0...

[turkish spurs fan]

Actually, South America has the top level team. Brazil is the daddy of all (except Argentina, tbh ). The tiest teams in Europe are also like a million times tier than the tiest teams in South America. So not only South America has the highest peak, we also have the highest floor. But like we aren't self-centered bags we don't go around saying our compe ions are harder than the WC.

i respect brazil very much. i respect argentina too but you should accept that arg are loser after maradona.

WCs are more open to make surprise. european championships have higher level of competiveness. it is the first time in 2016, 24 teams will play instead of 16. it may can down the quality.

[ElNono]

Going back to the OP, I'm not defending Argentina for this, tbh. We've just been running against daddy Germany since 1986 and haven't been able to overcome them...

IIRC, we've lost and been eliminated by them at least 4 times since then... ('90 Final, '06, '10 and '14 Final)...

[DAF86]

Come on son... they're all terrible, filler teams. The only reason we see Bosnia or Switzerland in the World Cup is because UEFA sends 13 teams, which is something that should really change. If the champ or host isn't from South America, we get the same amount of spots as Africa, which is not even half of what Europe gets. It's ridiculous.

There's obviously business reasons to expand the amount of teams and make it diverse, we all understand that, but it ends up making a ty product, tbh... you watch some of these underdog teams, and all you're wondering is if they can park two more buses to hold on to the 0-0...

There's no difference whatsoever between teams like Ivory Coast or ing Bosnia. Only ignorant Europeans think there is.

[DAF86]

i respect brazil very much. i respect argentina too but you should accept that arg are loser after maradona.

WCs are more open to make surprise. european championships have higher level of competiveness. it is the first time in 2016, 24 teams will play instead of 16. it may can down the quality.

You keep repeating the same but you aren't coming with any evidence son.

Please explain me how a team like Albania is any more difficult than a team like Nigeria.

[turkish spurs fan]

You keep repeating the same but you aren't coming with any evidence son.

Please explain me how a team like Albania is any more difficult than a team like Nigeria.

i don't say you re singing yourself haha. they r joining for the first time coz of a lucky group and for ex holland out. some african teams are talented but dont have compe ive mentality and discipline by the way. the weakest european teams have game plan.

[DAF86]

So yeah, some subjective that doesn't make sense. That's what I thought.

My job here is done. Mamba out.

[apalisoc_9]

Come on son... they're all terrible, filler teams. The only reason we see Bosnia or Switzerland in the World Cup is because UEFA sends 13 teams, which is something that should really change. If the champ or host isn't from South America, we get the same amount of spots as Africa, which is not even half of what Europe gets. It's ridiculous.

There's obviously business reasons to expand the amount of teams and make it diverse, we all understand that, but it ends up making a ty product, tbh... you watch some of these underdog teams, and all you're wondering is if they can park two more buses to hold on to the 0-0...

What do you suggest, Reduce the number of teams? That's counter productive to FIFAs goal of improving the quality of football in every continent which you cant deny have significantly improved.

I've campaigned for South America getting a 5.5 Spot as opposed to the the current count of 4.5

The problem with Reducing African-Asian spots is that it puts the quality teams in those confeds in a tight situation that is almost impossible to manage if they slip up considering the fact that there are other teams there that have decent teams...

You can't deny how much the top teams from these continents have improved due to the 32 format instead of the 24.

Its not like the 6thor 5th best team is a sire shot better team than say the 12 team in Europe, Asia etc. Uru lost lost to Australia..these teams might lack european talent but they are easily much more structured etc.

Imo the allocations is just fine.

[TheGreatYacht]

Albania, Iceland, Hungary, Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland, Romania, Slovakia

The only Copa America Centenario team as mediocre as those is USMNT, tbh

[apalisoc_9]

I think the last couple of mundial have been the most compe ive Ive seens. The t teams usually have a fighting chance to make it out of the group even after 2 games.

Maybe I dont remeber correctly, but the last day of the group stages in 2014 was tense. ty teams are starting to get better

[ElNono]

Currently beating powerhouse Honduras in a warm-up to the glorious Copa America Centenario... climbing det FIFA ranking...