Messi is a beta, Diego is an alpha /thread
Ever since diego peaked argentina has been so daddied by germany in brazil it looks like a little brother incapable of manning up tbh.
Germany has pounded them whenever and wherever they played them in matches worth a damn (lol friendly results ). 2010, 2014, 2006 .. it's starting to be a tradition tbh.
Brazil also pounded them badly in relevant matches, not one ing copa america in the last 20 years in an essentially 3-4 team compe ion
Most of the time argentina is more talented tbh, so it must be something psychological tbh.
Sons, how long until y'all s man up tbh? I mean how can you not win one trophy with messi? One measly copa america or at least a confederation cup?
Can't argue with that tbh. Since the gifted penalty in 1990, the NaziPolishTurkish NT owned us in the last fixtures.
Truth Nuke TBH
Maradroga started the syndrome on they ty final he played against them in 86. Bailed out once by his teammates then, couldn't be alpha in 1990 either...
That penalty was BS
Didn't see those games, but Brazil is right.
Messi = beta
DieGOAT = Alpha
... And I'm a Messi fan
TheGreatYacht was reffing that game. There was no way we weren't getting screwed.
Obviously
cmon sons I'm not that got.
do you see me repping that pickpocket polish side? outta here.
We're actually not in that bad a position, when pretty much the only team with bragging rights against us is Germany, tbh...
But with that in mind it's inexcusable we haven't won a Copa America in like 834329048329840893249032 years...
imo in the last 20 years brazil, france, germany italy and the netherlands have clearly accomplished more than argentina. not wining one Copa America with Alphanel is
TBH almost every "relevant" NT has a rival who seems to own them.
Mexico has Argentina. Argentina has Germany. Germany has Italy. Italy has Brazil. Brazil has Uruguay.
well, the 20 years is arbitrary... if we do 40 years, even 30 years, france and netherlands probably don't stack up...
but sure, the drought of any silverware doesn't align with the hype
Most underachieving NT in the past 25 years IMO
1/ post-Gullit/Van Basten era Netherlands (mid 1990s Ajax generation Kluivert Berkamp, Davids, Seedorf Overmars, Deboer brothers) +Van Bronckhorst+ Philip Cocu Stam+ Nisterlooy + Robben/Sneijder generation etc.
2/ Post-Maradona Argentina (Batistuta, Zanetti, Ortega, Ayala, Crespo, Veron, Riquelme Messi..etc..)
3/ Portugal 1994-2006 generation (Figo, Rui Costa, Pauleta, Couto, Carvalho, Deco)
HM..Czech Republic..
They have accomplished more but they haven't owned us in heat to head matchups, with the exception of maybe Brazil with which the head to head is prettt even but they have won the two most important ones.
Germany OWNED yall ..
Stop it.. there is a limit to homerism, tbh..what do you call getting bounced in three straight WCs by the same team? ..
Argentina destroyed Germany without Messi after the WC tbh
Argentina could have won the Copa America in 2015 but Higuain choked just like in 2014, I think they'll be able to win it this year tho
If Argentina can't win the Copa America this year, the backlash Missi is going to take, especially after DieGOAT's comments...
No Uruguay
No Neymar
Weak ass Chile
You should have guessed I was already giving Geamany as a given, tbh.
Last edited by DAF86; 06-11-2016 at 07:08 PM.
I mean, you quoted this comment I made today
Besides what "homerism" are you talking about? While everyone here says Argentina is the "mega-favourite", I'm the one applying the voice of reason and saying they could easily lose against a team like Mexico.
what do all these teams have in common? loads of talent but no clear structure, too much individualism. No organized high pressing and dedication to each possession = no rings. Look at what germany did with a good but not great generation: euro final, wc win, wc final, wc semifinal. We won all our rings by beating more talented teams because we play together. If germany EVER gets a generation as talented as post-maradona argentina or late 90s netherlands we would run a train on these compe ions, one can only dream of such talent tbh, other nations are so wasteful.
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