Tony Parker Vs Manu Ginobili...

[testies]

Porker was the better scorer in his prime.

[SASdynasty!]

Surprisingly, no stats have been posted yet. Oh wait, this is Spurstalk...never mind.

Career regular season:

Ginobili: 14.0/4.0/3.7 on 45% shooting
Parker: 16.6/5.9/2.9 on 49% shooting

Career playoffs:

Ginobili: 14.7/3.9/4.2 on 43% shooting
Parker: 18.2/5.2/3.0 on 46% shooting

Best individual season:

Ginobili: 19.5/4.8/4.5 on 46% shooting
Parker: 22.0/6.9/3.1 on 51% shooting

Best 5 year regular season window:

Ginobili: 16.8/4.2/4.1 on 46% shooting
Parker: 18.9/6.0/3.3 on 51% shooting

Best individual playoff run:

Ginobili: 20.8/5.8/4.2 on 51% shooting
Parker: 28.6/6.8/4.2 on 55% shooting

Best 5 year playoff window:

Ginobili: 18.0/4.0/4.4 on 43% shooting
Parker: 21.3/5.5/3.6 on 49% shooting

Best individual playoff series:

Ginobili: 22.2/4.8/6.2 on 49% shooting (not even the best player on the team in that series)
Parker: 29.6/7.0/3.4 on 52% shooting

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I guess in the theoretical world that never actually happened Ginobili was more dangerous offensively though.

[hater]

^ manu s

[SASdynasty!]

I would use the 2005 finals against a strong defensive Pistons team, the defending champs, as a measure to answer the question.

You mean when Manu was 27 and Parker was 22? Or is that one of the only series that you can find where Ginobili outplayed Parker? How about 2003? How about 2007? How about 2013? How about 2014? Oh, those aren't good measures. Only 2005.

[TheGreatYacht]

Parker/thread.

Agreed. Whoever disagrees is a

[TheGreatYacht]

Surprisingly, no stats have been posted yet. Oh wait, this is Spurstalk...never mind.

Best individual season:

Ginobili: 19.5/4.8/4.5 on 46% shooting
Parker: 22.0/6.9/3.1 on 51% shooting

Best 5 year regular season window:

Ginobili: 16.8/4.2/4.1 on 46% shooting
Parker: 18.9/6.0/3.3 on 51% shooting

Best individual playoff run:

Ginobili: 20.8/5.8/4.2 on 51% shooting
Parker: 28.6/6.8/4.2 on 55% shooting

Best 5 year playoff window:

Ginobili: 18.0/4.0/4.4 on 43% shooting
Parker: 21.3/5.5/3.6 on 49% shooting

Best individual playoff series:

Ginobili: 22.2/4.8/6.2 on 49% shooting (not even the best player on the team in that series)
Parker: 29.6/7.0/3.4 on 52% shooting

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I guess in the theoretical world that never actually happened Ginobili was more dangerous offensively though.

If Manure wasn't Latino, he would've gotten waived 5 years ago tbh

[Dre_7]

Stupid thread. Both are awesome.

[Mouth is Bleeding]

Surprisingly, no stats have been posted yet. Oh wait, this is Spurstalk...never mind.

Career regular season:

Ginobili: 14.0/4.0/3.7 on 45% shooting
Parker: 16.6/5.9/2.9 on 49% shooting

Career playoffs:

Ginobili: 14.7/3.9/4.2 on 43% shooting
Parker: 18.2/5.2/3.0 on 46% shooting

Best individual season:

Ginobili: 19.5/4.8/4.5 on 46% shooting
Parker: 22.0/6.9/3.1 on 51% shooting

Best 5 year regular season window:

Ginobili: 16.8/4.2/4.1 on 46% shooting
Parker: 18.9/6.0/3.3 on 51% shooting

Best individual playoff run:

Ginobili: 20.8/5.8/4.2 on 51% shooting
Parker: 28.6/6.8/4.2 on 55% shooting

Best 5 year playoff window:

Ginobili: 18.0/4.0/4.4 on 43% shooting
Parker: 21.3/5.5/3.6 on 49% shooting

Best individual playoff series:

Ginobili: 22.2/4.8/6.2 on 49% shooting (not even the best player on the team in that series)
Parker: 29.6/7.0/3.4 on 52% shooting

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I guess in the theoretical world that never actually happened Ginobili was more dangerous offensively though.

I really hope someone else has posted this before me, but your stats couldn't be more simpleton and misleading.

[HI-FI]

all i know is if i need one guy to score a bunch in garbage time, i'm giving the ball to Parker and not looking back.

[TheGreatYacht]

MVParker would've carried a team to a championship had Manure not turned the ball over to Lebron 8 times tbh

Manure ruined a historical run by MVParker:
• torching the Warriors
• smacking the outta Tony Allen and Conley
• draining a game winner against Lebron
• putting the team up 5 with 30 seconds left in a championship winning game

[EIC]

Can't speak too much about Prime Manu, but Prime Parker may be the only PG around which a team could build a post-centric offense. The stuff he used to be able to do with the ball would push the hopes people are having for Leonard and LMA on that end to shame. Manu would easily be the best two-guard in the game right now, while I'm not sure that Prime Tony would be ahead of Curry or even CP3. So that's something else to consider.

Good way to say it. Though part of this is a testament to Manu and Parker's relative virtues, and part of it is a commentary on how dark a time it is in the NBA for SGs and how deep the league is at the PG position. It's a PG league right now. I would probably take Irving, Westbrook, Paul, Curry, Thomas, and Lillard over prime Parker. The only SG right now that I would even consider next to prime Manu is Thompson, but I am still taking prime Manu.

[TheGreatYacht]

I'd take Harden, Thompson, Butler, etc.... I'd even take Jamal Crawford in his prime over Manu, has more individual accomplishments tbh

[SASdynasty!]

I really hope someone else has posted this before me, but your stats couldn't be more simpleton and misleading.

Good argument...lots of facts and research. Lots of good points made.

[Chinook]

Who was more awesome? Velociraptor or T-Rex?

I don't think that one's close, tbh.

[SASdynasty!]

Good way to say it. Though part of this is a testament to Manu and Parker's relative virtues, and part of it is a commentary on how dark a time it is in the NBA for SGs and how deep the league is at the PG position. It's a PG league right now. I would probably take Irving, Westbrook, Paul, Curry, Thomas, and Lillard over prime Parker. The only SG right now that I would even consider next to prime Manu is Thompson, but I am still taking prime Manu.

I really hope you're talking about the first Isaiah Thomas. Or maybe you would take a journeyman whose never once shot above 45% from the field. Oh, also he's never shot 40% from the field in the playoffs or won a playoff series. Seems about right for Spurstalk.

[SASdynasty!]

all i know is if i need one guy to score a bunch in garbage time, i'm giving the ball to Parker and not looking back.

Better than Manu turning it over 8 times. Oh wait, that turned out NOT to be garbage time.

[houston spurs fan]

OP is gay. Both were awesome in their primes and both made much better because of TD. An obvious attempt of a TP bash fest

[Diego20]

Surprisingly, no stats have been posted yet. Oh wait, this is Spurstalk...never mind.

Career regular season:

Ginobili: 14.0/4.0/3.7 on 45% shooting
Parker: 16.6/5.9/2.9 on 49% shooting

Career playoffs:

Ginobili: 14.7/3.9/4.2 on 43% shooting
Parker: 18.2/5.2/3.0 on 46% shooting

Best individual season:

Ginobili: 19.5/4.8/4.5 on 46% shooting
Parker: 22.0/6.9/3.1 on 51% shooting

Best 5 year regular season window:

Ginobili: 16.8/4.2/4.1 on 46% shooting
Parker: 18.9/6.0/3.3 on 51% shooting

Best individual playoff run:

Ginobili: 20.8/5.8/4.2 on 51% shooting
Parker: 28.6/6.8/4.2 on 55% shooting

Best 5 year playoff window:

Ginobili: 18.0/4.0/4.4 on 43% shooting
Parker: 21.3/5.5/3.6 on 49% shooting

Best individual playoff series:

Ginobili: 22.2/4.8/6.2 on 49% shooting (not even the best player on the team in that series)
Parker: 29.6/7.0/3.4 on 52% shooting

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I guess in the theoretical world that never actually happened Ginobili was more dangerous offensively though.

Minutes per game? LOL stupid TP .

TP probably averages 32-33 minutes in his entire career (if not more), while Manu averages like 26?

what about FGA?

lol tp s

[Diego20]

TP last season (33 years old) 11,9 points per game.

Manu (33 years old) 17,4 points per game (second best of his career, best player of Spurs that year).

lol TP s

[SASdynasty!]

Minutes per game? LOL stupid TP .

TP probably averages 32-33 minutes in his entire career (if not more), while Manu averages like 26?

what about FGA?

lol tp s

Go ahead and do the Per 36 numbers...Tony's still better. And I posted Manu's crappy FG%...not sure if you know this or not, but that's related to FGA.

[Diego20]

Go ahead and do the Per 36 numbers...Tony's still better. And I posted Manu's crappy FG%...not sure if you know this or not, but that's related to FGA.

Manu is better than TP in most advanced stats.. what about PER?

Also TP is PG so ofc he has better %FG, he doesn't take many 3s unlike SGs.

[SASdynasty!]

TP last season (33 years old) 11,9 points per game.

Manu (33 years old) 17,4 points per game (second best of his career, best player of Spurs that year).

lol TP s

26 years old:

Ginobili: 12.8/3.8/4.5 on 42%
Parker: 22.0/6.9/3.1 on 51%

Oooh that's even worse!

But I guess if Parker had the luxury of coming into the league 7 years late like Manu, he might have less wear.

[TheGreatYacht]

Parker is more efficient than Manure, and it's not close. Not a bad thing though, Parker is one of the most efficient guards ever. Always around 50fg%

[Diego20]

26 years old:

Ginobili: 12.8/3.8/4.5 on 42%
Parker: 22.0/6.9/3.1 on 51%

Oooh that's even worse!

But I guess if Parker had the luxury of coming into the league 7 years late like Manu, he might have less wear.

TP made only 11,9 points per game last season (33 years old) damn god I don't want to imagine next season, probably will average like 9 points per game.

[TrainOfThought5]

Its a shame how Parker cherry picked the Finals MVP from TD in 07' exploiting his matchup vs. a D-Leaguer and stat padding. It's a shame how people think Parker was the best player that run just because he got Finals MVP. Duncan was by far the best player and was the MVP of the Suns series (which was essentially the Finals that year).

Still bugs me he got it that year. Should have been TD.

I honestly believe that Duncan had a hand in that.