so? france choked. It still doesn't take anything away from the quality of the teams. Portugal is just a chile-level team tbh, benefiting from a more talented team choking and also benefited from a once in a lifetime bracket.
son, talent is talent. I'm sure the DFB managers would kill that midfield themselves if they'd get missi for it. Not to mention the rest of argentina attacking players.
and @most talent : the french and spanish squads >>>> germany from a talent POV.
SF or better in EC or WC is great son. in practice it means you beat at least another contender and that you didn't choke. Almost always WC/EC SFs are tight 50-50 games, so it's tough going forward. Yes wales- portgual was a once in a lifetime occurance, go ahead and troll with it.
Now in copa america '15 and '16 argentina were the only contenders and still couldn't do the job, so you see how the semi-finals argument is not a copout. Or do you consider copa america to be as tough to win as the Euros?
or that SA has other teams besides argentina on the france/italy/spain/germany contender level?
And why not count from '30 ? What's your point? That argentina with some golden generations and 2 GOAT level players achieved less than Germany while getting these achievements in the lesser copa america compe ions? Is that the point you're trying to make?
well , maybe look at the roster and not the names of the teams ? denmark had a very good team and they caught lighting in a bottle tbh, they also beat the stacked netherlands, who had a better team than ours, but hey, that doesn't fit your agenda. not to mention that it was the first combined german team after the reunification and there were some chemistry issues on and off the pitch.
sons accept it, I love missi but losing back 2 back to chile isn't something the GOAT would do. Misty is every bit as talented as any other goat, my point is that his value is lesser because he has ZERO leadership and take over huge games skills, a non-value imprinted on this argie side, which has obtained lesser results than germany while having more talent and playing in lesser compe ions. It's clear as day sons. My only qualm with missi is that instead of solving these issues and fulfilling his potential he is just busy monkeying around and living the easy life at barcelona.