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    I don't feel like looking it up on my phone, but didn't he miss the playoffs during his prime years, too, IIRC?

    I'm not one of those ignorant fans that judges players solely by wins and losses(not even close), but an NBA player missing the playoffs in a prime year is a severe indictment IMO, regardless of supporting cast..an individual player in the NBA won't win you a championship all by himself, but he should absolutely be able to carry a team to the playoffs..
    Geez, compare that to how many times TD missed the playoffs.

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    I don't feel like looking it up on my phone, but didn't he miss the playoffs during his prime years, too, IIRC?

    I'm not one of those ignorant fans that judges players solely by wins and losses(not even close), but an NBA player missing the playoffs in a prime year is a severe indictment IMO, regardless of supporting cast..an individual player in the NBA won't win you a championship all by himself, but he should absolutely be able to carry a team to the playoffs..
    Looking at things in absolutes without some context is silly ...
    Anthony davis missed the playoffs last year are we going to judge him harshly for that years from now and pretend that he and his team were not devastated by injuries?
    Is kiwi a better young stud because he has not missed the playoffs but Unibrow has?
    Although i agree a great should be able to make the playoffs you do need to have some perspective ...

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    Hakeem is extremely overrated, tbh..elite 2-season peak that was matched by very few, but unimpressive resume compared to his peers..

    It's a product of nostalgia and aesthetics..

    Top 3 finish in WS/48:
    Shaq- 7
    Duncan- 4
    Hakeem- 2

    BPM:
    Shaq- 4
    Duncan- 3
    Hakeem- 2


    VORP:
    Duncan- 5
    Shaq- 2
    Hakeem- 2

    PER:
    Shaq- 11
    Duncan- 4
    Hakeem- 4

    MVP votes:
    Shaq- 5
    Duncan- 5
    Hakeem- 2


    You can list the accomplishments and accolades, and you'll see that Shaq and Duncan are significantly more decorated than Hakeem the Pedo..


    How does Abdul-Jabbar not make your top 10? I know he played in the 70s, but so did Malone, though more of his prime was in the 80s.


    Duncan is in the top four, along with Jordan, James and Abdul-Jabbar.

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    Again, you'd have to be the worlds biggest homer to put Duncan ahead of Shaq and Hakeem.
    In retrospect, I agree. Olajuwon's run in the 90's and O'Neals peak puts Duncan's success to shame.

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    Bird is the GOAT tbh

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    Bird is the GOAT tbh
    A brownie sucking up to a white man. Yikes. The least respectable of the human folks, imo.

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    Duncan is the second best player of all time - only behind LeGOAT.

    MVPippen's sidekick isn't even in the conversation, tbh.

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    A brownie sucking up to a white man. Yikes. The least respectable of the human folks, imo.
    I'm white tbh
    (But I do tan easily)

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    Duncan is the second best player of all time - only behind LeGOAT.

    MVPippen's sidekick isn't even in the conversation, tbh.
    Dad killer wouldnt even be a top 10 player in this league tbh.

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    Duncan is the second best player of all time - only behind LeGOAT.

    MVPippen's sidekick isn't even in the conversation, tbh.
    You have no business discussing greatness. Literally, NO business.

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    Dad killer wouldnt even be a top 10 player in this league tbh.
    Then why in the OP do you have him top 2 of all time?

    Did you change your mind again?

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    Dad killer wouldnt even be a top 10 player in this league tbh.
    ISOball just won a championship.

    todays NBA

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    You have no business discussing greatness. Literally, NO business.
    His favorite NBA team has 5 NBA Championships. He's qualified IMO.

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    His favorite NBA team has 5 NBA Championships. He's qualified IMO.

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    His stats don't show it.

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    ISOball just won a championship.

    todays NBA
    my niglet

    sophistocatedball beaten by 90sball

    today's NBA

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    Why would you bring Kobe into this?

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    In 2000, Shaq averaged 30 points, 13.6 rebounds and 3 blocks a game on .574% shooting.

    Who the is Tim Duncan?

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    In 2000, Shaq averaged 30 points, 13.6 rebounds and 3 blocks a game on .574% shooting.

    Who the is Tim Duncan?
    The guy who swept him the previous season.

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    The guy who swept him the previous season.
    And got swept by him the following season.

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    Who the is Tim Duncan?
    He's the reason why you're still 0 & Forever

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    Horry's the reason why you're still 0 & Forever

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    In retrospect, I agree. Olajuwon's run in the 90's and O'Neals peak puts Duncan's success to shame.
    5>4

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    Then why in the OP do you have him top 2 of all time?

    Did you change your mind again?
    shtick shift

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    In 2000, Shaq averaged 30 points, 13.6 rebounds and 3 blocks a game on .574% shooting.

    Who the is Tim Duncan?
    The guy who did this to him:



    Duncan made Shaq look like a lazy piece of in '03. For example, there is one play shown in this video (6:30) when Duncan missed a shot, and Shaq started running the other direction without even trying to rebound. Here's a 325-pound man who could box out every other NBA player on one leg if he tried, and he's abandoning that rebound just so he can plod his way down the court to set up in his one spot where he's effective on offense ... ing unbelievable. Then Duncan easily grabbed the rebound over Horry and scored. And that's why Tim Duncan is greater than Shaq: he had the complete game, he put in way more effort, and he was a much better defensive player.
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