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    Lol, Parker sending Nash home 4 times in the playoffs wasn't enough for you? The 2008 embarrassment wasn't enough for you? How bad did you want Parker to outscore Nash in the playoffs to make up for those assists?
    Nash was 34 years old in 2008, same age TP has now (and he has been sucking last 3 years). You can't compare old Nash with old TP, you don't want to do that..

    Let's see if TP can put 16,4 points per game and 9,7 assists per game just like Nash did in 2009


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    Lol, Parker sending Nash home 4 times in the playoffs wasn't enough for you? The 2008 embarrassment wasn't enough for you? How bad did you want Parker to outscore Nash in the playoffs to make up for those assists?
    parker was on the bench when we eliminated the mavs (rookie manu wasn't):



    basketball is a team sport. stop acting like the two were playing tennis when he was with the suns. the spurs weren't coached by d'antoni.

    Hey you guys are the ones who always bring up Chalmers.
    i've never brought up chalmers in regard to parker. you don't know what the you're talking about tbh. nothing new though.

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    Nash was 34 years old in 2008, same age TP has now (and he has been sucking last 3 years). You can't compare old Nash with old TP, you don't want to do that..

    Let's see if TP can put 16,4 points per game and 9,7 assists per game just like Nash did in 2009

    Parker has been in the NBA since the age of 19 years old, has been a starter since nearly day one and been to the playoffs every season. Nash came into the NBA at 22, was a back up to begin his career and had a renaissance at a much later stage than most PG's.

    No, we'll just go with your complete lack of context, though.

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    Nash was 34 years old in 2008, same age TP has now (and he has been sucking last 3 years). You can't compare old Nash with old TP, you don't want to do that..

    Let's see if TP can put 16,4 points per game and 9,7 assists per game just like Nash did in 2009

    tp's assists per game for his career: 5.9
    the most he's averaged for a season is 7.7... which is lower than deron william's career average.

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    tp's assists per game for his career: 5.9
    the most he's averaged for a season is 7.7... which is lower than deron william's career average.

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    gots using APG in a Spurs system and when a player's primary job for a decade was to feed Duncan in the post, which never resulted in assists

    Only mullet having idiots would judge a Spurs player by that.

    Buuuuut, since we're doing it......

    Manu Ginobili Career APG: 4.0
    highest APG in a season: 4.9

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    gots using APG in a Spurs system and when a player's primary job for a decade was to feed Duncan in the post, which never resulted in assists

    Only mullet having idiots would judge a Spurs player by that.

    Buuuuut, since we're doing it......

    Manu Ginobili Career APG: 4.0
    highest APG in a season: 4.9
    got, exactly the opposite, thank god TP had Duncan. If wasn't for Duncan TP would have averaged 3 or less assists per game in his career.

    drible drible drible drible drible until 5 seconds left didn't work for TP..

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    As I've said a million times on this forum, advanced stats show guys like Boban to be our best player. This is why I value them much less than who actually carries the scoring load (which is how you win games in basketball) and if you shoot well from the field while doing it. Replacements stats are theoretical stats that show what would have happened in a universe that doesn't exist. That's great and goes right along with all you guys' arguments such as "if the Spurs had CP3, we'd have 8 les." Ok I guess there is no argument against that.

    As far as Parker's defense, what exactly do you want to see? Will you accept things like this?

    2014 Regular Season:

    Lebron James: 27/7/6 on 57%
    Mario Chalmers: 10/5/3 on 45%

    2014 NBA Finals:

    Lebron James: 28/8/4 on 57%
    Mario Chalmers: 4/3/1 on 33%

    So Parker shut down his guy while Kawhi let his guy get his numbers. But we all knew that.
    Advanced stats carry significant meaning with sufficient sample size. It may be skewed in Boban's case of extremely limited minutes in just one NBA season. But given Parker's major role with the team, advanced stats are a perfect reflection of his overall impact on the game both offensively and defensively.

    It is in stats like the following that Parker's liability on the defensive end is exposed in all its gory detail:

    Advanced

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    Rk Player From To G MP PER TS% 3PAr FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% OWS DWS WS WS/48 OBPM DBPM BPM VORP
    1 Tim Duncan 1998 2016 1392 47368 24.2 .551 .008 .416 9.7 26.5 18.4 16.4 1.1 4.6 12.3 27.0 100.0 106.3 206.4 .209 1.5 4.0 5.5 89.3
    2 Manu Ginobili 2003 2016 923 24269 20.9 .586 .388 .411 3.1 12.9 8.1 25.0 2.8 0.9 14.8 24.9 57.8 43.4 101.2 .200 4.1 1.3 5.4 45.5
    3 Tony Parker 2002 2016 1080 34618 18.7 .550 .100 .292 1.4 8.8 5.2 32.5 1.5 0.2 13.9 25.4 63.5 42.5 105.9 .147 1.9 -0.7 1.1 27.5

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    Rk Player From To G MP PER TS% 3PAr FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% OWS DWS WS WS/48 OBPM DBPM BPM VORP
    1 Tim Duncan 1998 2016 251 9370 24.3 .548 .009 .448 9.9 25.1 17.7 16.0 1.0 4.5 11.8 27.0 20.5 17.4 37.8 .194 2.1 3.8 5.9 18.6
    2 Manu Ginobili 2003 2016 197 5684 19.7 .580 .408 .466 3.0 13.6 8.4 23.0 2.5 0.8 15.6 24.5 11.9 8.2 20.1 .169 4.0 1.4 5.4 10.6
    3 Tony Parker 2002 2016 213 7480 16.8 .514 .107 .278 1.7 8.2 5.0 27.8 1.4 0.2 13.3 27.4 6.9 6.3 13.2 .084 0.8 -0.8 0.0 3.7

    Source: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...01&p4=&p5=&p6=

    Since you claimed that Parker outplayed LeBron in the 2007 series while the others didn't carry the load, can you please explain what Parker did defensively to slow LeBron down? You've already avoided that question once. I hope you can explain your bold (but still baseless) claim this time around.

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    Advanced stats carry significant meaning with sufficient sample size. It may be skewed in Boban's case of extremely limited minutes in just one NBA season. But given Parker's major role with the team, advanced stats are a perfect reflection of his overall impact on the game both offensively and defensively.

    It is in stats like the following that Parker's liability on the defensive end is exposed in all its gory detail:

    Advanced

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    Rk Player From To G MP PER TS% 3PAr FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% OWS DWS WS WS/48 OBPM DBPM BPM VORP
    1 Tim Duncan 1998 2016 1392 47368 24.2 .551 .008 .416 9.7 26.5 18.4 16.4 1.1 4.6 12.3 27.0 100.0 106.3 206.4 .209 1.5 4.0 5.5 89.3
    2 Manu Ginobili 2003 2016 923 24269 20.9 .586 .388 .411 3.1 12.9 8.1 25.0 2.8 0.9 14.8 24.9 57.8 43.4 101.2 .200 4.1 1.3 5.4 45.5
    3 Tony Parker 2002 2016 1080 34618 18.7 .550 .100 .292 1.4 8.8 5.2 32.5 1.5 0.2 13.9 25.4 63.5 42.5 105.9 .147 1.9 -0.7 1.1 27.5

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    Rk Player From To G MP PER TS% 3PAr FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% OWS DWS WS WS/48 OBPM DBPM BPM VORP
    1 Tim Duncan 1998 2016 251 9370 24.3 .548 .009 .448 9.9 25.1 17.7 16.0 1.0 4.5 11.8 27.0 20.5 17.4 37.8 .194 2.1 3.8 5.9 18.6
    2 Manu Ginobili 2003 2016 197 5684 19.7 .580 .408 .466 3.0 13.6 8.4 23.0 2.5 0.8 15.6 24.5 11.9 8.2 20.1 .169 4.0 1.4 5.4 10.6
    3 Tony Parker 2002 2016 213 7480 16.8 .514 .107 .278 1.7 8.2 5.0 27.8 1.4 0.2 13.3 27.4 6.9 6.3 13.2 .084 0.8 -0.8 0.0 3.7

    Source: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...01&p4=&p5=&p6=

    Since you claimed that Parker outplayed LeBron in the 2007 series while the others didn't carry the load, can you please explain what Parker did defensively to slow LeBron down? You've already avoided that question once. I hope you can explain your bold (but still baseless) claim this time around.
    While haters get trolled.....the true spurs fans are #blessed that mvparker isn't quitting or threatening to leave for the Lakers.

    Oh, and mods, please pink gambit for repeatedly bumping threads to make the same point. He's #obsessed

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