Will Pop let his players kneel during the anthem?

[Yuixafun]

If I was American, I wouldnt stop at what Kapernick do..I'd burn that POS flag.

These freaking soldiers have been killing innocent people in Iraq and Afganistan. First on a fake war.. ing Bush.

America ia a terrorsit country..

Dude... you make me sad that you are Filipino.

I was born in Angeles City, Philippines.

If it wasn't for the U.S. Military, my life would be drastically different.

I didn't own a pair of new shoes until I was 4.

By 5 I was living in California having birthday parties in a neighborhood light years away from where I originated.

I was learning multiplication in Kindergarten. Playing Oregon Trail and Number Munchers on the computer.

I was catching dragonflies in the endless tall grass in my friends backyard, then going off to pick blackberries with him and his dad so his mom could make fresh baked pies.

Do you understand how idyllic that life is compared to the situation I was born into...

What would I have been doing had I stayed in the Philippines?

Running around being a street urchin trying to steal wallets or sell cigarettes for money?

Diving into the ocean so I could push rocks out to sell them for a quarter?

My earliest memory was being unable to open my eyes because they were so crusted over from being sick.

Medicine was so expensive my mom resorted taking me to a Witch Doctor.

I love my Filipino heritage. I'm thankful that my formative years were spent there, I will always see the world differently than you snot nosed POS.

But there isn't a time now as a grown man that I don't realize how incredible fortunate I was.

A long time ago my mother made a choice, for herself and young son, to leave her homeland, for the chance at a better future.

For a 100 pound woman in a developing country, with nothing but an 8th grade education, what sort of life could she make for us?

I'm a Filipino-American and one day I'm going to write about what that truly means.


It always made me proud growing up, moving every few you years as an Air Force kid, that when I told people I was Filipino, they would smile and say "Oh I had a friend that was Filipino, he was really cool..."

Your small thinking and juveniles ideas and communication make me hope you never tell anyone what you are besides a fool.

[J_Paco]

Another innocent Black man murdered by the police, tbh..I bet Birn had a great day..

Part of the issue with BLM and these athletes protesting is that it's just too peaceful IMO..unfortunately, at this point, dialogue and ubiquitous coverage through the media has not made any type of difference..violence is the only solution, we need more brothers sacrificing their lives for the cause, which is killing pigs until legitimate reform is initiated..

All types of wrong, man. All violence would do is validate every negative stereotype of African-Americans.

There does need to be change, but you are dealing with systemic issues in a nation that is predominantly White. Change needs to happen at the local level and these officers need to be held accountable (even imprisoned) if found culpable. With a long history of State sanctioned racism, bigotry and genocide.

It'll take a long wbile to find a solution, but killing cops ain't the answer.

[I. Hustle]

If I was American, I wouldnt stop at what Kapernick do..I'd burn that POS flag.

These freaking soldiers have been killing innocent people in Iraq and Afganistan. First on a fake war.. ing Bush.

America ia a terrorsit country..

[apalisoc_9]

Dude... you make me sad that you are Filipino.

I was born in Angeles City, Philippines.

If it wasn't for the U.S. Military, my life would be drastically different.

I didn't own a pair of new shoes until I was 4.

By 5 I was living in California having birthday parties in a neighborhood light years away from where I originated.

I was learning multiplication in Kindergarten. Playing Oregon Trail and Number Munchers on the computer.

I was catching dragonflies in the endless tall grass in my friends backyard, then going off to pick blackberries with him and his dad so his mom could make fresh baked pies.

Do you understand how idyllic that life is compared to the situation I was born into...

What would I have been doing had I stayed in the Philippines?

Running around being a street urchin trying to steal wallets or sell cigarettes for money?

Diving into the ocean so I could push rocks out to sell them for a quarter?

My earliest memory was being unable to open my eyes because they were so crusted over from being sick.

Medicine was so expensive my mom resorted taking me to a Witch Doctor.

I love my Filipino heritage. I'm thankful that my formative years were spent there, I will always see the world differently than you snot nosed POS.

But there isn't a time now as a grown man that I don't realize how incredible fortunate I was.

A long time ago my mother made a choice, for herself and young son, to leave her homeland, for the chance at a better future.

For a 100 pound woman in a developing country, with nothing but an 8th grade education, what sort of life could she make for us?

I'm a Filipino-American and one day I'm going to write about what that truly means.


It always made me proud growing up, moving every few you years as an Air Force kid, that when I told people I was Filipino, they would smile and say "Oh I had a friend that was Filipino, he was really cool..."

Your small thinking and juveniles ideas and communication make me hope you never tell anyone what you are besides a fool.

You're basically a hypocrite. The US military feeds you so you fully ignore all their atrocities.

Sorry, i dont let material things blind my judgement on how the US has terrorized millions of people. Continue being blinded by those financial benefits you're getting.

[apalisoc_9]

Hopefully All NBA players all go shareef Abdullrahim on these flags and anthem.

[cd98]

Another innocent Black man murdered by the police, tbh..I bet Birn had a great day..

Part of the issue with BLM and these athletes protesting is that it's just too peaceful IMO..unfortunately, at this point, dialogue and ubiquitous coverage through the media has not made any type of difference..violence is the only solution, we need more brothers sacrificing their lives for the cause, which is killing pigs until legitimate reform is initiated..

I'm sure this is just trolling bc nothing could be more counterproductive to the cause than starting a war with police. If you think they have itchy trigger fingers now, just wait until its perceived that BLM are hunting cops. Or worse, they'll stop patrolling in bad neighborhoods and crime will get out of hand and innocent people pay the price. Fixing the system won't be done with violence.

[TheGreatYacht]

I'm sure this is just trolling bc nothing could be more counterproductive to the cause than starting a war with police. If you think they have itchy trigger fingers now, just wait until its perceived that BLM are hunting cops. Or worse, they'll stop patrolling in bad neighborhoods and crime will get out of hand and innocent people pay the price. Fixing the system won't be done with violence.

They have itchy trigger fingers because the system will allow them to get away with it. They WILL stop if there's consequences to their bull .

I don't agree with Harlem suggesting that some innocent cops gotta pay a price... however I do agree if the cops that do, are the ones that have murdered innocent POC. Feed those pigs what they give us.

[apalisoc_9]

I'm sure this is just trolling bc nothing could be more counterproductive to the cause than starting a war with police. If you think they have itchy trigger fingers now, just wait until its perceived that BLM are hunting cops. Or worse, they'll stop patrolling in bad neighborhoods and crime will get out of hand and innocent people pay the price. Fixing the system won't be done with violence.

Not sure of Harlem was serious, but he might be.

Listen, I condone violence but lets be honest here...Majority if not all reforms happened through a series pf violence. Simply talking has not done the job because everyone is trying to get the most out of everything.

"Violence" or what I would call physical voice has been the key to changing solutions since day 1

Talks only work if the problem isnt at a a very later stage...

Its like that bully in school, he aint stopping until you stomp his ass.

[dabom]

Violence to fight violence. Call USA terrorists.

[TheGreatYacht]

Violence to fight violence. Call USA terrorists.

It's the right way. Use the 2A right the right loves to protect. We gotta stop being so PC, people!

[dabom]

I'm not saying violence vs violence is wrong. But don't get mad at the US for doing it and be for it in other situations.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

This thread needs historical perspective. The anthem and the pledge are not American in a traditional sense. They are statist garbage, and the Founders would have had none of it.

American ideals were derived from classical liberalism. Classical liberalism is totally incompatible with fealty oaths and idolatry that treat the state or flag like a religious icon.

The pledge was created in the 20th century by a socialist progressive with a lust for centralized power. He and his ilk hate Christians, traditions, mercy, charity and private initiative. They love the State and anointed themselves as the proper rulers. Their direct aim was to adapt military organizational forms to the greater society. Less individual initiative, more service to the state.

The anthem is a gross military poem about blowing things up. The tune of the song is an old British drinking song. It's ridiculous. At sporting events they omit this line: "[FONT="]No refuge could save the hireling and slave. [/FONT][FONT="]From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave". So basically kill everyone, include (black) slaves and serfs, because...Murica'.
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I love my nation and its people, but I strongly urge my fellow men and women to not conflate nation and state. They are not the same. America is great because of the ideas of classical liberalism and its legacy, not any damn flag.

I leave you with the words of Sam Adams. This is not a man that would "stand for the anthem" like a sheep.

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

This is a good post...made me pause and reflect.





I also had to look up the word 'conflate'.

[TheGreatYacht]

"I cape for the 2A so we can protect our lives... unless you're not white. Then you just gotta take the bullets these pigs feed you and do nothing about it." - right wingers

"Look at these Baltimore riots! Those thugs! Why can't they protest silently?!.... I am so pressed. How DARE Kaepernick take a knee?!?! That should not be the way to protest!!" - right wingers

"How dare Black Lives Matter single out one group of people when saying their lives matter?! That's evil! All Lives Matter!............. let me post this #BlueLivesMatter hashtag contradicting myself" - right wingers

[Birn]

Another innocent Black man murdered by the police, tbh..I bet Birn had a great day..

Part of the issue with BLM and these athletes protesting is that it's just too peaceful IMO..unfortunately, at this point, dialogue and ubiquitous coverage through the media has not made any type of difference..violence is the only solution, we need more brothers sacrificing their lives for the cause, which is killing pigs until legitimate reform is initiated..

Here are 5 facts you should know about cops killing blacks:

1. Cops killed nearly twice as many whites as blacks in 2015. According to data compiled by The Washington Post, 50 percent of the victims of fatal police shootings were white, while 26 percent were black. The majority of these victims had a gun or were armed or otherwise threatening the officer with potentially lethal force.

2. More whites and Hispanics die from police homicides than blacks. 12 percent of white and Hispanic homicide deaths were due to police officers, while only four percent of black homicide deaths were the result of police officers.

3. The Post's data does show that unarmed black men are more likely to die by the gun of a cop than an unarmed white man...but this does not tell the whole story. In August 2015, the ratio was seven-to-one of unarmed black men dying from police gunshots compared to unarmed white men; the ratio was six-to-one by the end of 2015. The Marshall Project examined the details of the actual incidents that occurred and they see it as follows:

The “unarmed” label is literally accurate, but it frequently fails to convey highly-charged policing situations. In a number of cases, if the victim ended up being unarmed, it was certainly not for lack of trying. At least five black victims had reportedly tried to grab the officer’s gun, or had been beating the cop with his own equipment. Some were shot from an accidental discharge triggered by their own assault on the officer. And two individuals included in the Post’s “unarmed black victims” category were struck by stray bullets aimed at someone else in justified cop shootings. If the victims were not the intended targets, then racism could have played no role in their deaths.

In one of those unintended cases, an undercover cop from the New York Police Department was conducting a gun sting in Mount Vernon, just north of New York City. One of the gun traffickers jumped into the cop’s car, stuck a pistol to his head, grabbed $2,400 and fled. The officer gave chase and opened fire after the thief again pointed his gun at him. Two of the officer’s bullets accidentally hit a 61-year-old bystander, killing him. That older man happened to be black, but his race had nothing to do with his tragic death. In the other collateral damage case, Virginia Beach, Virginia, officers approached a car parked at a convenience store that had a homicide suspect in the passenger seat. The suspect opened fire, sending a bullet through an officer’s shirt. The cops returned fire, killing their assailant as well as a woman in the driver’s seat. That woman entered the Post’s database without qualification as an “unarmed black victim” of police fire.

4. Black and Hispanic police officers are more likely to fire a gun at blacks than white officers. This is according to a Department of Justice report in 2015 about the Philadelphia Police Department, and is further confirmed that by a study conducted University of Pennsylvania criminologist Greg Ridgeway in 2015 that determined black cops were 3.3 times more likely to fire a gun than other cops at a crime scene.

5. Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops. This is according to FBI data, which also found that 40 percent of cop killers are black. The police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person.

Despite the facts, the anti-police rhetoric of Black Lives Matter and their leftist sympathizers have resulted in what is known as the "Ferguson Effect," as murders have ed by 17 percent among the 50 biggest cities in the U.S. as a result of cops being more reluctant to police neighborhoods out of fear of being labeled as racists. Additionally, there have been over twice as many cops victimized by fatal shootings in the first three months of 2016.

This research was conducted by Roland G. Fryer, who is the youngest black professor to have received tenure status at Harvard. As Fryer expected, his research revealed that police are more likely to use force towards an African-American suspect. However, in what Fryer called “the most surprising result of my career,” his research also revealed that African-American suspects are less likely to be shot in an altercation with law enforcement than suspects of other racial backgrounds.

It's very important for everyone to stop reacting on the basis of emotions and instead, use rational thought and analysis based on facts. Race hustlers want you to be upset and foment hate for non-blacks and the United States. This race propagating by those on the left is truly disgusting and has no place in our free society. Law and order are required if we are to remain a free people. Whenever any of us are questioned by police for whatever reason we must comply with all of their demands and let them do their jobs. If you fail to comply you just may get shot or tasered. This was ingrained in me since I was a young child. Not sure why so many people still try to ignore their demands.

[dabom]

Tgy with some knowledge. Wow

[cd98]

They have itchy trigger fingers because the system will allow them to get away with it. They WILL stop if there's consequences to their bull .

I don't agree with Harlem suggesting that some innocent cops gotta pay a price... however I do agree if the cops that do, are the ones that have murdered innocent POC. Feed those pigs what they give us.

Again, I'm assuming this is a troll take. You punish bad cops by prosecuting them. Not by killing random cops. You will only get more public sympathy for cops by killing innocent ones. It's a stupid take to condone such an act.

[Birn]

Obama has instructed citizens to report threats of violent and deadly behavior. The moderators of this board should take immediate action to permanently ban those who have called for death to police officers. FBI and other authorities will be notified. This should never be acceptable.

[Play Boban]

Pop is going to kneel and flip the bird during the anthem, TBH. He's a flaming communist in the vein of Lenin and Che.

[Biernutz]

We should have the national anthem before the players come out for the game. Tv never
covers it acept in finals games so the anthem is now for the game fans. In a military town
like San Antonio that flag gets a lot of respect. We don't need any social protest over it. If the players
want to protest,take a knee during warmup or tip off. The fans in this town love the Spurs but they love
that flag a lot more than the players......

[TheGreatYacht]

Obama has instructed citizens to report threats of violent and deadly behavior. The moderators of this board should take immediate action to permanently ban those who have called for death to police officers. FBI and other authorities will be notified. This should never be acceptable.

Another conservative sensitive blaming everything on Obama. The moderators should ban s like yourself for ignoring the reason this all started. Bet you're one of those idiots that completely changed Kaepernick's narrative on why he kneeled.

he disrespected our troops
I don't care why he kneeled
If you don't like it here, leave!
yet I'll vote for an orange Cuck who called Americans losers and our military weak and an embarrassment

[spurs1990]

The police officer in the Charlotte shooting is black.

[houston spurs fan]

I expect Silver to lift the mandate that all players must stand during the anthem. In my opinion lets just do away with playing it altogether. You think the NFL is bad, wait until the NBA. Everyone will be doing it....

[superbigtime]

Another innocent Black man murdered by the police, tbh..I bet Birn had a great day..

Part of the issue with BLM and these athletes protesting is that it's just too peaceful IMO..unfortunately, at this point, dialogue and ubiquitous coverage through the media has not made any type of difference..violence is the only solution, we need more brothers sacrificing their lives for the cause, which is killing pigs until legitimate reform is initiated..

you fool. You'll be in jail soon where you belong.

[davidbowie]

I wish Tim would still be playing so he could lead the team in taking a knee.

[Play Boban]

I wish Tim would still be playing so he could lead the team in taking a knee.

Tim is an Uncle Tom. No way he's kneeling.