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    In the Spurs' motion offense sets, 2s and 3s are fairly interchangeable, as are 4s and 5s. When matching up defensively, size, quickness and acuity will dictate who defends whom.

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    That's true. So I think if the team is looking at Green's absence as a chance to see who to keep for the 15th man, Garino makes sense. Or LJC being the opposing SF also makes sense if Anderson plays next to Kawhi. Could be Simmons, but I'd like it to be someone who isn't awful on D.

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    Is LJC's contract not guaranteed? Does he really have a shot at NOT making the roster?

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    Is LJC's contract not guaranteed? Does he really have a shot at NOT making the roster?
    Lol, no. LJC is making the team with a guaranteed deal. But LJC getting the nod trying to guard Leonard makes a ton of sense if the Spurs aren't concerned with figuring out the 15th spot. After all, if Livio can check NBA-caliber wings, he's a rotation player even with his warts. But I don't expect him to have the chance or for him to earn that chance until next year.

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    Tough subject for Patty thanks for sharing.

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    Edit?: Thanks for sharing Dex!

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    , leadership subject again!!
    It's becoming larger than life at this point (obviously kidding).
    Wow, Kawhi is really talktative here, 5 minutes!
    Last edited by SAGirl; 09-27-2016 at 03:39 PM. Reason: edit had to thank OP for sharing.

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    It looks like kawhi is confident enough to assertsl his wants in the team and there's a clear vibe that he knows he is miles better than anyone in the team. Pop touched upon this yesterday and how Kawhi is increasingly becoming more vocal on what he wants and what he doesnt want.

    That was something that was absent last year since last year was a transition from him as the best clear cut best player in the team. You can tell now that he knows he's way above everyone else.

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    Kevin Pelton's playing time assumptions for his Schoene projections.

    Player Games MPG Minutes
    Leonard 75 33 2475
    Aldridge 76 30 2280
    Gasol 76 30 2280
    Green 78 27 2106
    Parker 76 27 2052
    Mills 76 20 1520
    Lee 75 18 1350
    Ginobili 74 18 1332
    Anderson 78 15 1170
    Simmons 78 15 1165
    Dedmon 78 12 936
    Bertans 78 10 780
    Murray 78 3 234

    Games/MPG are wonky (Murray gets more minutes per game in very few games), but the total minutes look plausible.

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    Drom, you know I'm a fan of yours, but Pelton sucks.

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    Of course Patty Stacks didn't think he did anything wrong. He was one of the consistent players on our team.

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    Drom, you know I'm a fan of yours, but Pelton sucks.
    But realgm is legit right?

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    Gasol is not playing 30.

    It's going to look more like this.

    Kawhi 34-35
    Aldridge 30
    Gasol 25-27
    Parker 22-24
    Green 29-31
    Gino 18-20
    Mills 22-24
    Anderson 15ish
    Dedmon 15ish

    Everyone else has to fight for minutes.

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    Gasol is not playing 30.

    It's going to look more like this.

    Kawhi 34-35
    Aldridge 30
    Gasol 25-27
    Parker 22-24
    Green 29-31
    Gino 18-20
    Mills 22-24
    Anderson 15ish
    Dedmon 15ish

    Everyone else has to fight for minutes.
    Yeah and probably not mid 70's games either (same for Parker and Ginobili).

    I suspect slightly more mpg for Aldridge, Parker and Anderson and slightly less for Leonard, Green and Mills.

    I don't know why there's an assumption that Dedmon is clearly ahead of Lee. Hopefully he is, but I'm not convinced.

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    Yeah and probably not mid 70's games either (same for Parker and Ginobili).

    I suspect slightly more mpg for Aldridge, Parker and Anderson and slightly less for Leonard, Green and Mills.

    I don't know why there's an assumption that Dedmon is clearly ahead of Lee. Hopefully he is, but I'm not convinced.
    I can't think of a situation where a 25 year old would allow himself to be relegated to old man minutes regardless of cir stances. I suspect kawhi, sat down with the coaching stuff to address this issue as it was clear that in the later half of the season last year, kawhi played more minutes even in blowouts.

    I can't see Aldridge playing more than he did last year considering the team is looking to test out and possibly extend bench big minutes in situational cases..specially to start the season.

    There is no way Green should be playing less than 29 at this point, imo.

    I have hard time readind Parker and Mills..i mean id love for parker to play less and mills more..but I dont know if pop shares the same sentiment.

    I think the assumption stems from Aldridge unwillingless to play the center position. Makes dedmon a better fit if he really doesnt want.

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    Didn't Pop say that other that Pau who will be starting to begin the season, Spurs will not play the new guys as much. He mentioned Kyle
    A. and Jon Simms having bigger roles, as sort of internal growth as he put it.

    What is encouraging is that Kyle had his moments guarding KD during the OKC series. Jon Simms, I don't see it just yet.

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    Just looking at this: http://www.nba.com/spurs/2016-17-preseason-guide and its like there are only 13 players in the roster.

    What gives with LJC. I thought he was signed.

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    You know it's been a long offseason when just hearing the Spurs talk with basketballs bouncing in the background is like music to your ears.

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    Just looking at this: http://www.nba.com/spurs/2016-17-preseason-guide and its like there are only 13 players in the roster.

    What gives with LJC. I thought he was signed.
    All 20 are listed on page three, including LJC....who sucks.

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    Wow, Kawhi is talking like he's ready to take a definite leadership role. Seems more assured and confident of himself. Love it.

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    I can't think of a situation where a 25 year old would allow himself to be relegated to old man minutes regardless of cir stances. I suspect kawhi, sat down with the coaching stuff to address this issue as it was clear that in the later half of the season last year, kawhi played more minutes even in blowouts.

    I can't see Aldridge playing more than he did last year considering the team is looking to test out and possibly extend bench big minutes in situational cases..specially to start the season.

    There is no way Green should be playing less than 29 at this point, imo.

    I have hard time readind Parker and Mills..i mean id love for parker to play less and mills more..but I dont know if pop shares the same sentiment.

    I think the assumption stems from Aldridge unwillingless to play the center position. Makes dedmon a better fit if he really doesnt want.
    No doubt Kawhi went to Pop and said "Mo' minutes, man!" and he will get it.

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    This has been the longest offseason.

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    This has been the longest offseason.
    I thought it's been pretty quick, but I've also been pretty busy this summer, so there's that.

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    Kevin Pelton's playing time assumptions for his Schoene projections.

    Player Games MPG Minutes
    Leonard 75 33 2475
    Aldridge 76 30 2280
    Gasol 76 30 2280
    Green 78 27 2106
    Parker 76 27 2052
    Mills 76 20 1520
    Lee 75 18 1350
    Ginobili 74 18 1332
    Anderson 78 15 1170
    Simmons 78 15 1165
    Dedmon 78 12 936
    Bertans 78 10 780
    Murray 78 3 234

    Games/MPG are wonky (Murray gets more minutes per game in very few games), but the total minutes look plausible.
    Damn Iceberghead playing more than 10MPG is going to sink the ship tbh

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    Didn't Pop say that other that Pau who will be starting to begin the season, Spurs will not play the new guys as much. He mentioned Kyle
    A. and Jon Simms having bigger roles, as sort of internal growth as he put it.

    What is encouraging is that Kyle had his moments guarding KD during the OKC series. Jon Simms, I don't see it just yet.
    He did mention both specifically, which means their spots are theirs to lose. JSimms is at least going to get first dibs to show he can hang in the league b4 they move on from him and if they do, he might as well be calling his agent bc he will find himself in another team. Lee is a veteran. It may turn out that Lee is there more for insurance since when they asked Pop who he will be looking to in the bench he mentioned J.Simms and Anderson, not Lee, not Dedmon, not anyone else.

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