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    Game to game, week to week, ha~~~~~~~~~~~

    Guy has...a...good game, he's great. Then he has a bad game...he sucks...ha!!!!

    Ya give any QB a couple of 16 game seasons, if by then the guy is sucking, yep,,,,,,chances are he does suck. Ya don't try and get a true read on ay QB with less time than that, history has proven that....FACT...many times.

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    Avante, you realize that for every star QB you name that had a slow start to his career(many of your examples are flawed, though, since you're posting their numbers from eras where QB play was much different), we can name 100 bad QBs that also had slow starts and subsequently had terrible careers

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    Avante, you realize that for every star QB you name that had a slow start to his career(many of your examples are flawed, though, since you're posting their numbers from eras where QB play was much different), we can name 100 bad QBs that also had slow starts and subsequently had terrible careers
    Why is it so damn important to ........ok ok he sucks we've seen enought....when the guy hasn't even played a full season as the starting QB? What is the rush?

    And those examples I gave weren't flawed because others in the same era had great starts to their career. Some just take a little longer. I have learned from years of experience not to.......Kelvin Benjamin can't play.....without giving the guy some time.

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    20-29....hmmmmmm?

    Why don't you guys ever take a few minutes and look at what others did at the same age? This is a guy just now becoming a starting QB, what is the ing rush to..............HE SUCKS~~~~~~~~

    Anybody have any idea at all what Peyton looked like his first season as a starter? How about......43...INTs~~~~
    Last edited by Avante; 10-31-2016 at 02:23 PM.

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    20-29....hmmmmmm?

    Why don't you guys ever take a few minutes and look at what others did at the same age? This is a guy just now becoming a starting QB, what is the ing rush to..............HE SUCKS~~~~~~~~

    Anybody have any idea at all what Peyton looked like his first season as a starter? How about......43...INTs~~~~
    43???? LMAO. There's no ing way that's right.

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    43???? LMAO. There's no ing way that's right.
    And right there is the problem. So many guys here with no knowledge of what others did. If they knew they'd cool all this rookie bull we see. GIVE THINGS SOME ING TIME.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...M/MannPe00.htm

    Look at all those INT's.

    It took him about six seasons to really starting cooking. After two seasons this board would have been.....HE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!....hahaha!!!!

    Why this damn need to be in such a hurry to .....HE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

    i have my doubts about Osweiler also, but no ing way ignore what experience has taught me.
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    He threw 25 TDs and 25 INTs his rookie season. Not 43 you dumbass.,

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    And right there is the problem. So many guys here with no knowledge of what others did. If they knew they'd cool all this rookie bull we see. GIVE THINGS SOME ING TIME.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...M/MannPe00.htm

    Look at all those INT's.

    It took him about six seasons to really starting cooking. After two seasons this board would have been.....HE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!....hahaha!!!!

    Why this damn need to be in such a hurry to .....HE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

    i have my doubts about Osweiler also, but no ing way ignore what experience has taught me.

    so you made up the 43 Int in a season? Or did you mix up your NFL magazine with your kiddie porn magazine?

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    He threw 25 TDs and 25 INTs his rookie season. Not 43 you dumbass.,
    Well actually dumbass it was 26/28, ok? 43...SHEESH! I was obviously talking about his first two seasons, my bad.

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    so you made up the 43 Int in a season? Or did you mix up your NFL magazine with your kiddie porn magazine?
    Actually I was thinking 43 in his first two seasons, he threw 28 and 15.

    43....hahahahaha~~~~~

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    Well actually dumbass it was 26/28, ok? 43...SHEESH! I was obviously talking about his first two seasons, my bad.
    His second year was really good. Led his team to a 13-3 record with the help of Edgerrin James of course.

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    His second year was really good. Led his team to a 13-3 record with the help of Edgerrin James of course.
    Comp % 62.1
    TD/INT....26-15
    QB rating...90.7

    Ok for a second year QB.

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    When ya bring in a guy like a Brock Osweiler who isn't am established talent, you are saying he will get some time. He was just going to step right in and start putting up big numbers? Is that realistic? Give the cat some ing time, sheesh!!!!!!!!!!

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    Comp % 62.1
    TD/INT....26-15
    QB rating...90.7

    Ok for a second year QB.
    Pretty good back then considering the league wasn't pass heavy back then. The game changed after 2003 with the rule changes benefiting the offense. But as someone said earlier, you're too much of a simpleton to realize that. Before 2004, find many second year QBs who put up better numbers outside of Dan Marino. Dumbass.

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    Pretty good back then considering the league wasn't pass heavy back then. The game changed after 2003 with the rule changes benefiting the offense. But as someone said earlier, you're too much of a simpleton to realize that. Before 2004, find many second year QBs who put up better numbers outside of Dan Marino. Dumbass.
    Dude, are you kidding me, hahahaha~~~~~~~~~ Want me to crush like a ing bug with example after example after example of just how stupid that was, well? The only simpleton/dumbass here is you. Want me to prove it ya ing moron?

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    Dude, are you kidding me, hahahaha~~~~~~~~~ Want me to crush like a ing bug with example after example after example of just how stupid that was, well? The only simpleton/dumbass here is you. Want me to prove it ya ing moron?
    Go ahead. I dare you fat ass.

  17. #92
    Avante, you've been disappointing me lately..I thought you knew a little about the NFL..

    Trying to use Peyton Manning as an example of a rough start, and then claiming that Manning had just an "ok" 2nd year

    His 2nd year:

    #3 in yards
    #4 in passer rating
    #3 in yards/attempt
    #1 in comeback wins

    that's far from an "ok" year..that's a great season, especially for a 2nd year player..

    Let's compare it to Brock Osweiler's 2016 season, a QB that has been in the NFL since 2012:

    #20 in passing yards
    #5 in INTs
    #32 in yards/attempt
    #19 in TDs
    #30 in QBR

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    Go ahead. I dare you fat ass.
    Stupid, do you even get what is being talked about here? Or are ya just as stupid as ya appear?

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    Avante, you've been disappointing me lately..I thought you knew a little about the NFL..

    Trying to use Peyton Manning as an example of a rough start, and then claiming that Manning had just an "ok" 2nd year

    His 2nd year:

    #3 in yards
    #4 in passer rating
    #3 in yards/attempt
    #1 in comeback wins

    that's far from an "ok" year..that's a great season, especially for a 2nd year player..

    Let's compare it to Brock Osweiler's 2016 season, a QB that has been in the NFL since 2012:

    #20 in passing yards
    #5 in INTs
    #32 in yards/attempt
    #19 in TDs
    #30 in QBR
    With Peyton it's about looking at how much better he got with time. While Osweiler hasn't even had a 16 game season as the full time starter. Why not give the guy some time like Peyton and, Brady and Rodgers etc got before.....HE SUCKS~~~~

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    When ya bring in a guy like a Brock Osweiler who isn't am established talent, you are saying he will get some time. He was just going to step right in and start putting up big numbers? Is that realistic? Give the cat some ing time, sheesh!!!!!!!!!!
    Jesus. I can only imagine if you put Manning in there with prime Hopkins, Fuller, and Miller. Not saying that Manning didn't have his weapons. But he'd have Houston cruising.

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    Jesus. I can only imagine if you put Manning in there with prime Hopkins, Fuller, and Miller. Not saying that Manning didn't have his weapons. But he'd have Houston cruising.
    Just seen way too many players at all postions where it took them a little time to get it down. I know better than to....HE SUCKS....for anyone after a season or even a few. I get it.

    I have no need to....here it is week 8, and YOU SUCK....hahahahaha~~~~~~~~ Yep, ROOKIE~

    Check it out, look at 2012, it's as if a switch was flipped.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...R/RyanMa00.htm

    Look at 2004, what happened?


    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...M/McNaDo00.htm
    Last edited by Avante; 10-31-2016 at 04:07 PM.

  22. #97
    Ossweiler suffered numerous receiver drops vs Raiders last night.
    I didn't even watch but 1/3rd of the game and saw three gimmees dropped.

    Also thought the spot on the run by him could have been a 1st down.
    (Not the obvious rip off 4th qtr RaiderRef one the running back made but the 3rd and 10 scramble run by Ossweiler.) He dove for the 1st down marker, I thought maybe he had it. Oh well, no challenge and he walked off the field so....

    Could easily be 7-3. Not too snabby.

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    he played his best game of the season tbh... squeezed some tight throws to that fedora guy

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    All anyone ever has to do is look at what everyone else did their very first season as "Da Man". To play critic early in a guys career....why?

    Google Peyton Manning and check out his first 16 game season as the starter. Try....28 INT;s and a terrible 71.2 QB rating.

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    Assweiler's performance says more about how ty the Raiders' defense is than anything else.

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