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    He isn't perfect by a long shot but he looks much better than a lot of us thought he would be. He's better than Fathead on D.
    He is not. True story....

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    Yes, he is. True story.

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    OP is one of the most knowledgeable posters in this place, tbh... my main concern with Bertrans is not his talent, but if his knee is going to hold up...
    Exactly
    He was a legit player in Europe despite the injuries and being a really good shooter he's a specialist, which is what you need if you want to belong in this League

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    I like him, but Splits has a point in that he's been hyped up only just bc this is a troll Kyle Anderson thread...
    He's living rent free in some of these peeps heads (by the way, you all taught me that phrase).
    Slurp slurp.


    And this is strictly a Bertans thread. Just cause he is already better fit that fathead makes this a troll thread.

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    I'm sold on Bertans, but let's talk about me.

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    Slurp slurp.


    And this is strictly a Bertans thread. Just cause he is already better fit that fathead makes this a troll thread.
    She's so protective over him. It's kind of strange.

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    Bertans has played better than Anderson so far...but its to early to give him Anderson minutes..

    I think they would be competing for minutes this year...specifically, the rare minutes where Pop plays a smaller 4...Its not a lot but thats an added responsibility.

    Anderson will keep his backup 3 Job though regardless of what happens or how good Bertans play.

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    Anderson's probably been the second-best defensive wing in the preseason after Kawhi, and Bertans is probably tied with Simmons for last for wings who are likely to make the team. So I think if he's going to get consistent minutes, they should come at the four. That works best for his one good defensive skill anyway (rim-protection). You can see the talent there, but he's a bit behind the curve in terms of knowing how to play his role in the NBA. In that way, he's like an anti-LJC. He looks to have real talent but isn't there mentally yet. LJC is there mentally, but his skill level is so low that it almost doesn't matter.

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    Anderson's probably been the second-best defensive wing in the preseason after Kawhi, and Bertans is probably tied with Simmons for last for wings who are likely to make the team. So I think if he's going to get consistent minutes, they should come at the four. That works best for his one good defensive skill anyway (rim-protection). You can see the talent there, but he's a bit behind the curve in terms of knowing how to play his role in the NBA. In that way, he's like an anti-LJC. He looks to have real talent but isn't there mentally yet. LJC is there mentally, but his skill level is so low that it almost doesn't matter.
    I agree he's a 4, that's why I see this thread as a troll Anderson thread. He's competing with David Lee and has a good chance to overtake him by the end of the season just bc Lee's style is so cancerous for everyone else playing with him and if the Spurs bench starts off like they did in the Celtics and even Mavs (where despite Lee's numbers being better, everyone else played better with him off the floor). That's where Davis has an inside.

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    I agree he's a 4, that's why I see this thread as a troll Anderson thread. He's competing with David Lee and has a good chance to overtake him by the end of the season just bc Lee's style is so cancerous for everyone else playing with him and if the Spurs bench starts off like they did in the Celtics and even Mavs (where despite Lee's numbers being better, everyone else played better with him off the floor). That's where Davis has an inside.
    Why is this a troll thread when the OP slotted Davis at the PF?

    I guess it did become a discussion on Kyle later though, so my bad... But, many threads become "Kyle" threads these days, sadly. Just like how many threads used to become Parker threads...

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    Why is this a troll thread when the OP slotted Davis at the PF?

    I guess it did become a discussion on Kyle later though, so my bad... But, many threads become "Kyle" threads these days, sadly. Just like how many threads used to become Parker threads...
    Because he's living rent free on a lot of guys heads and you can't discuss anyone else or anything else without him propping up. I am trying to avoid bringing him up myself bc there are already 200 hate threads about him. I tried to stay within topic discussing Lee and Simmons in respective threads. Sadly Davis is going to be propped up by Kyle haters regardless of merit.

    It's going to turn into the new

    Bertans? "Still better PG than Parker" troll schtick but sub Kyle in, which basically renders the discussion meaningless.

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    Bertans propped up to make fathead look bad? Unlike you, I actually have credibility here. Every time I "prop" someone up like you think , it's because I actually think they are good.

    Your ty takes though.

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    dat persecution syndrom from SAGirl tbh... hilarious

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    I wonder how good Bertans is at catching lobs. If he's decent at it, a back-door 'oop would be a great corner play to put pressure on the defense. Manu from the top of the key or Anderson from the opposite high post would both be great places to pass from. Again, feeling really optimistic about it being BG2 in a year or so. Even this season with Manu and Lee, there should be some nice displays of passing.

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    I'm interested to see what he can become. That jumpshot form is immaculate and I think when you have a shooter like that, he can thrive with playing with better players in a more structured system which is obviously what the regular season will be.

    At this point in time, I find him more interesting than Anderson and much more interesting than Simmons. It could be a case of I know what those guys bring and Bertans is new, but I am very disappointed in the lack of obvious improvement in both Anderson and Simmons. I'm not sure either of those guys are going to be positives for this iteration of the Spurs.

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    Said it before, but there will be some awesome highlight dunks this season if he's getting minutes. Really runs the floor and has great hops as well as intensity in his dunks. Looking forward to seeing some Kawhi/Bertans/Simmons fast breaks

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    I'm interested to see what he can become. That jumpshot form is immaculate and I think when you have a shooter like that, he can thrive with playing with better players in a more structured system which is obviously what the regular season will be.

    At this point in time, I find him more interesting than Anderson and much more interesting than Simmons. It could be a case of I know what those guys bring and Bertans is new, but I am very disappointed in the lack of obvious improvement in both Anderson and Simmons. I'm not sure either of those guys are going to be positives for this iteration of the Spurs.
    I know he's been waiting in the wings for a long while, but it's not often you get someone new who looks ready to play in the NBA.

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    I wonder how good Bertans is at catching lobs. If he's decent at it, a back-door 'oop would be a great corner play to put pressure on the defense. Manu from the top of the key or Anderson from the opposite high post would both be great places to pass from. Again, feeling really optimistic about it being BG2 in a year or so. Even this season with Manu and Lee, there should be some nice displays of passing.

    It would be a great play. The thought of using him that way, with his knees, makes me cringe - but it would be nice to have somebody attacking the rim like that. They tried it a few years ago with Danny, but missed connection so much that they quit.

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    I wonder how good Bertans is at catching lobs. If he's decent at it, a back-door 'oop would be a great corner play to put pressure on the defense. Manu from the top of the key or Anderson from the opposite high post would both be great places to pass from. Again, feeling really optimistic about it being BG2 in a year or so. Even this season with Manu and Lee, there should be some nice displays of passing.
    Looks good to me:


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    Bertans is Matt's replacement, tbh.

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    Bertans is Matt's replacement, tbh.
    Fathead is not even a Matt replacement. 30% shooting in the playoffs.

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    Worse drop off than Matty in the playoffs.

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    Fathead is not even a Matt replacement. 30% shooting in the playoffs.
    Off-topic for the thread, but, okie dokie.

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    Dude lost a finger, and torn his same ACL twice. Kept playing and by all accounts he worked so hard in rehab he's lost little to no athleticism.

    Davis is tough. Type of guy its hard not to root for.

    If he becomes a solid rotation player and Kawhi an MVP the Hill trade may go down as one of the worst ever for Indiana. It already might for Kawhi alone.

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    Bertans is the Truth. Boy's getting minutes and will be a solid rotation player by the playoffs. I expect a jump in minutes by the RRT. Solid thread.

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