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He had some good all around stats in Seattle
So s are really a
saying Kawhi is better on offense than Klay?
He had some good all around stats in Seattle
I keep hearing "if Parker was healthy" every time he plays like . When is the last time this guy was "healthy"?
I wonder about the age of some people that post here. People don't remember that when Allen came into the league, he was a dunker more so than a 3 point threat. Even competing in the dunk contest his rookie year. I've watched him since Uconn and his battles with my Hoyas so I know what I'm talking about. If you would have said in 96 that Ray Allen would go down as one of the best 3 point shooters ever, absolutely no one would have agreed with it
Wiggins had 7 when Leonard left the game with 2 mins to go. After that, he got 4 more points as the spurs only scored 5
Klaynus only took 11 dribbles, held ball for only 52 seconds. All but one of his field goals were off an assist.
Kwa most definitely does not receive that kind of passing from the Spurs.
Even dumber because it ignores Kawhi's progression from last year to this year. Fun fact Kawhi is averaging more this year than Klaynus has in any year of his career. And I guarantee you that will hold throughout the year. Klaynus was actually at around 20-21 ppg at the time OP made the thread. Before the 60 game, obviously.
Even if we look at last year:
Kawhi- 21.2 on 50.6/44.3/87.4
Klaynus- 22.1 on 48.1/39.2/87.7
Hardly a convincing argument for Klaynus being the clearly superior offensive player. Then once you analyze how each of them gets their points the comparison becomes a joke.
Klay is good and contributed. Noone has said otherwise. He just isn't as good as Kawhi, offensively or defensively.60pts... ball in hand for 88 seconds - Klay
35 points ball in hand most of the night - Kawhi
So GS has been a better team but Klay had no part in it? Way to kick your own ass.
It's also dumb to use the fact that he's surrounded by better players against Kawhi. Especially when Klaynus isn't even the top guy in GS.
You're comparing a guy that has shot 87% and 91% from the line to guys that were put on the line intentionally. Obviously Kawhi's FTs are earned and with the exception of end of game situations are rarely of the hacking variety. Seriously, how stupid can you be?So Shaq consistently created his own shots? He was at the line all the time, same with dwert.
Who are considered scorers to you? What's your logic for ranking them, career highs?
Klaynus is a better scorer according to you despite averaging less points.
To all those that are propping up Klaynus. If you can't see the huge, glaring difference with how one guy gets his points compared to the other I don't know what to tell y'all sons. Y'all just aren't very smart if you can't see it. Basically in the same group as all the re s that glorified Kirby's chucking.
Do you really want to get into another Kawhi debate? That didn't go too well for you the last time around.
You clearly have a strange missconception of Kawhi's game son. You either haven't seen him play enough, or you have caught all the few games where he didn't play well, tbh. Laughing at the idea of Kawhi > Aldridge as if it was some re ed thing to say. That was gold son
So is there supposed to be some moment in the game when there's only one offensive player on the floor and he had to create his own shot? What's up with all this bull ?
Why is Leonard's scoring method better than Klay's? Is isolation ball now the better way of doing things?
Klay isn't the number one option on his team. When Leonard was the number three option on his team how well was he doing points wise? I seem to recall he was averaging about 14 points a game in the finals when he won the finals MVP.
Even if we look at last year:
Kawhi- 21.2 on 50.6/44.3/87.4
Klaynus- 22.1 on 48.1/39.2/87.7
Hardly a convincing argument for Klaynus being the clearly superior offensive player. Then once you analyze how each of them gets their points the comparison becomes a joke.
Klay is good and contributed. Noone has said otherwise. He just isn't as good as Kawhi, offensively or defensively.
It's also dumb to use the fact that he's surrounded by better players against Kawhi. Especially when Klaynus isn't even the top guy in GS.
You're comparing a guy that has shot 87% and 91% from the line to guys that were put on the line intentionally. Obviously Kawhi's FTs are earned and with the exception of end of game situations are rarely of the hacking variety. Seriously, how stupid can you be?
Who are considered scorers to you? What's your logic for ranking them, career highs?
Klaynus is a better scorer according to you despite averaging less points.
Also you seem to think standing at the free throw line shooting free throws is somehow more difficult than shooting from the three-point line in a catch and shoot.
Kawhi is a scorer he's just not as good of a score as Klay. A scorer is someone who can put points on the board when needed however a better scorer is someone who can put more points on the board when needed. I believe Klay could put points on the board much faster than Kawhi, given their same methods. It doesn't matter if you can dribble to your spot or you need a pass you to your spot. You get to your spot and you shoot that's how they do it. All that bowling alley with their head flung back to get to the free throw line, that's just a gimmick. That's why you see the three Oklahoma City guys still to this day doing it and leading the free-throw parade.
Last edited by DMC; 12-07-2016 at 01:11 PM.
You're all over the ing place. You tried to use last year. Now you try to use '14.
Was Kawhi averaging the most FGAs on his team when he wasn't the first option? Klaynus is.
Has Klaynus ever averaged 24+ ppg? Kawhi is.
No idiot I think putting pressure on the defenses in order to draw those fouls is harder than standing pretty at the three-point letting others create looks for you. Your stupid is showing again.Also you seem to think standing at the free throw line shooting free throws is somehow more difficult than shooting from the three-point line in a catch and shoot.
Who do you consider scorers and how do you rank them? Kawhi is 11th in the league in PPG and a mediocre scorer according to you. Klaynus is further down the list yet he's a good scorer. You make no sense per usual.
Letting others get you looks is a 'scoring method'?
No moron. It's called being a role player. Danny Green doesn't have a scoring method, he just depends on others to get him looks. Klaynus isn't any different. He just happens to be a much deadlier shooter with half decent handles. Hence why he's the best, most elite 3&D player in the league.
How is Kawhi better on offense than Klay? You did not answer that.Do you really want to get into another Kawhi debate? That didn't go too well for you the last time around.
You clearly have a strange missconception of Kawhi's game son. You either haven't seen him play enough, or you have caught all the few games where he didn't play well, tbh. Laughing at the idea of Kawhi > Aldridge as if it was some re ed thing to say. That was gold son
I don't know if Kawhi is definitely better on offense, but a case could definitely be made.
Klay's pts come almost exclusively off screen and spot ups. Kawhi has a wider arsenal of offensive moves. Kawhi is the number one offensive focus of his team whereas Klay is the 3rd of 4th (if you take into account that Draymond is the number one ballhandler and playmaker on the Warriors). Klay depends more on his teammates to get his pts than Kawhi. Klay has more explosive nights but Kawhi is more consistent. Let's also not forget that Kawhi flirts everyseason with 50/40/90. There isn't a definite answer on who the better offensive player is; there is, though, a definite answer on who the best player is, and that's Kawhi.
If Klay has more explosive nights that means he is the better scorer.
Not necessarily, you need some consistency too, Kawhi is playing team ball and putting some good numbers, Klaynus Jewsom played lots of ty games this season and had a just a couple of good ones.
No you dumbass. Cobsistancy is what makes an offense.
When you are a 24ppg guy with less than half of your points unassisted, it means you work to get your points. Not to mention he actually runs the pick and roll for his team with virtually limited gravity from his teamates.
You're just A rocket got who makes got claims. Bu saying Klay is better pffensively, you can now make ty claims that harden is a better.overall better player.
You have zero credibility. You have always been wrong.
Kawhi averages more points.
Don't tell me you're in the same imbecile camp as DMC, where you base off of career highs or a 37 point Qtr?
Or that he plays more minutes, at a faster pace, alongside 3 other stars on the team with the most explosive offense in the history of the league. That could be another reason, tbh.
DMC doednt play basketball son..have you seen his hands?why would you take him seriously?
Guys like Tony Delk and Corey Brewer have bigger scoring outputs than many superstars. I guess that means they are just better offensively.
Dude is literally getting SPOONFED
Comparing him with Kawhi who the other night was having to pour in 22 pts to win a game in which Nicola in' Laprottilova was our best guard
DMC has fat hands bro. Have you not seen the pic? Like short fat hands. I would be surprised if he's ever touched a basletball..maybe im a footlocker store.
Dude is literally getting SPOONFED
Comparing him with Kawhi who the other night was having to pour in 22 pts to win a game in which Nicola in' Laprottilova was our best guard
Also Djhon has proven hes a got in his kawhi thread. Probably trying his best to up Harden name by making silly comments. Losers gonna losers.
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