NBA: MVP race

[140]

So now the criteria for MVP is who chucks more off the dribble 3s?

[djohn2oo8]

So now the criteria for MVP is who chucks more off the dribble 3s?

The criteria for MVP is who is most valuable to their team.

[FkLA]

Wow 1 percent below average, which is pretty much at average

And since when is "just below the average" shooting the norm for an MVP? Since when is shooting below 40% for the back end of the season the norm for an MVP? Stop trying to normalize it.

[140]

The criteria for MVP is who is most valuable to their team.

Why even bring that up then?

[140]

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[SpursFan86]

Still think LeBron isn't getting enough MVP love. He's been playing out of his mind since the new calendar year. Yeah yeah, voter fatigue...still seems weird how little discussion there's been about him.

[DAF86]

Still think LeBron isn't getting enough MVP love. He's been playing out of his mind since the new calendar year. Yeah yeah, voter fatigue...still seems weird how little discussion there's been about him.

Cavs have been mediocre. Lebron not being able to elevate his team's game in the ty East shouldn't be rewarded, tbh.

[SpursFan86]

Cavs have been mediocre. Lebron not being able to elevate his team's game in the ty East shouldn't be rewarded, tbh.

Cavs aren't mediocre at all when LeBron is on the court, though

Cavs with LeBron on: +9.0
Cavs with LeBron off: -8.1

Spurs with Kawhi on: +9.3
Spurs with Kawhi off: +8.4

Not sure how LeBron is supposed to elevate his team's play while he's sitting on the bench.

[DAF86]

Cavs aren't mediocre at all when LeBron is on the court, though

Cavs with LeBron on: +9.0
Cavs with LeBron off: -8.1

Spurs with Kawhi on: +9.3
Spurs with Kawhi off: +8.4

Not sure how LeBron is supposed to elevate his team's play while he's sitting on the bench.

Cavs are like 6-6 since Love went out. Cavs as a whole have had kind of a let down season. You don't win MVPs when your team underperforms.

[djohn2oo8]

And since when is "just below the average" shooting the norm for an MVP? Since when is shooting below 40% for the back end of the season the norm for an MVP? Stop trying to normalize it.

Derek Rose won MVP shooting 44%. Pretty sure that is an average percentage. Now kiss my shoes.

[djohn2oo8]

Oh and at Fkla pretending like the media cares about shooting percentage when Westbrook has been in the conversation all year shooting worse than Harden.

[spursistan]

Harden is the worst clutch performer of all MVP candidates. ..His style of play in close games the single reason why I am skeptical of the Rockets postseasons chances..

[DMC]

Oh and at Fkla pretending like the media cares about shooting percentage when Westbrook has been in the conversation all year shooting worse than Harden.

I honestly believe that if a team ran a total gimmicky season where 4 other players just never touched the ball, and one player had all the stats, even if the team never won a game, that player would be heralded as a great player by some in the media and some gots on this forum.

[DMC]

Ball hogs don't pass at all. Btw, never said Kawhi was one.

Not true. Ball hogs do pass to avoid a turnover. They are stat hogs, they will hog rebounds, assists and points. If the league started tracking between the leg dribbles, they'd be sure to count those as well in their repertoire. Anything to get numbers that fool casual fans and make talking points during contract negotiations.

[TDMVPDPOY]

the excuse for lebron is this, when they win games they say his the best

when they lose games? his coasting...should reward mvp for coasting?

[FkLA]

Derek Rose won MVP shooting 44%. Pretty sure that is an average percentage. Now kiss my shoes.

That is not an average percentage for an MVP at all. The fact that one of the worst MVPs of all-time won it while shooting that badly doesn't normalize it.

[DAF86]

Rose didn't deserve MVP that year. Only reason he got it was because of the Bulls record. So, in any case, Rose's example should help Kawhi's chances, who is a lot more deserving this year than Rose in '11, tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

That is not an average percentage for an MVP at all. The fact that one of the worst MVPs of all-time won it while shooting that badly doesn't normalize it.

It is average for a SG. How many SG win MVP? I'll wait...

BTW, Iverson won MVP while shooting 42%. Kobe won it shooting 45% which is a good percentage for a SHOOTING guard. Fkla

[apalisoc_9]

Lou Williams should be MVP tbh. Him and Gordon are absoulte mosnters in the Houston System. Every Guard in that System is a nightmare.

[Xsatyr]

Lou Williams should be MVP tbh. Him and Gordon are absoulte mosnters in the Houston System. Every Guard in that System is a nightmare.

Gordon came back down to earth some time ago and Lou actually hasn't hit his stride in Houston.. I wouldn't claim they are absolute monsters.

[Fabbs]

If Kwa would have dunked that for the tie late vs Blazers that would have given him another point or two.

[lebomb]

If Kwa would have dunked that for the tie late vs Blazers that would have given him another point or two.

Yeah, I was at the game. He fudged that crunch time finger roll. He should have flushed it.

[Brazil]

I have again to see the " but but all his shots are assisted " as this is a bad thing or a proof of a player being less valuable than another... that's the worst take I have ever read in all those ST years and thats saying a lot...

my player is better because he does not catch and shoot, he creates his own 36% crap FG.... oh boy

[Brazil]

If Kwa would have dunked that for the tie late vs Blazers that would have given him another point or two.

yeah that was atrocious...soft as

[Fabbs]

yeah that was atrocious...soft as

I think Kwa anticipated that tall guy on Blazers Nukric was going to go up hard for the block.
Was kind of surprising Nukric did not go up as tall as he could.
I was surprised too.

Also, trail defender made really quick recovery and was siding Kwa.
Combo of two is why chose finger roll.