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  1. #301
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    If you've already got weapons and a good QB, there's no reason to subject him to the potential injuries associated with being a runner. That's a recipe for short lived success.
    Wentz, Watson, Prescott aren't runners? That is where the position is heading.

    I've been on defense facing a mobile QB, it's a whole other deal than knowing ....he can't run. The first problem is having to peak into the backfield to see if the QB is still there. now when trying to cover a receiver it's a hassle.
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    what???? you just posted a video of a high school kid and now you want to talk about kids from black colleges?

    Was trying to have a normal conversation with you but you're too re ed.
    Point

    Small schools mean nothing. I should have known you wouldn't get it. And American Heritage the school the kid is from has over 2800 students.

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    Wentz, Watson, Prescott arent runners? That is where the position is heading.
    The ones that have long careers will be the ones that figure out how to stay in the pocket and utilize their weapons. Unfortunately, the hard part is understanding the game and not everyone will grasp it.
    Of the three above, I think Wentz will have the best career by a long shot.

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    Point

    Small schools mean nothing. I should have known you wouldn't get it. And American Heritage the school the kid is from has over 2800 students.
    They have 2800 kids from K-12.

    And my point was that when you watch videos, you need to take into account he's usually not playing against similar talent.

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    The ones that have long careers will be the ones that figure out how to stay in the pocket and utilize their weapons. Unfortunately, the hard part is understanding the game and not everyone will grasp it.
    Of the three above, I think Wentz will have the best career by a long shot.
    The point you're missing is this....

    It all starts in at the HS level and those kids will only be there they 4 years, then off to college for a 3-4 season career. And at that level we are seeing runners at the QB position, just watch Alabama Monday. So nobody cares about longevity and this is what the NFL is getting now. If you want a QB chances are he has some wheels, because that's what the HS/colleges want.

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    They have 2800 kids from K-12.

    And my point was that when you watch videos, you need to take into account he's usually not playing against similar talent.
    Why are you telling me this? Where did I rave about his football prowess?

    He's off to Auburn.

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    Watching a replay of the Rams vs Cowboys game, did ya know both Gurley and Zeke were stud HS hurdlers?

    So what other running backs can say that?

    Milt Campbell was a world class hurdler, and an Oly decathlon Champin, he played a few seasons with the Browns prior to Jim Brown.

    Hugh "The King" McElhenny was a Cali State hurdlers champion.

    Paul Lowe the Chargers first 1000 yard rusher was a stud HS hurdler.

    Tyrone Wheatley ran the hurdles at Michigan.

    Roger Craig ran the hurdles, not sure he ran track while at Nebraska.

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    There are HS lines out there today that average over 300 pounds. We have HS kids running times that would have won the Olympics past. Bigger and stronger and faster. This is why in todays football yiu wiull need a legit athlete playing the QB position. Defenders are just too quick to have a cat who can't evade a psass rush.

    I follow HS football, trust me, we are seeing more and more black QB's and white guys like a Baker Mayfield who can motor. Guys who can't break a 5.00 in the 40. good luck. YES YES ....but what about Tom Brady, Drew Brees? When are we going to see their like again, if ever.

    Bortles can scoot, Mariota can run, Watson, Wilson, Wentz, Rodgers, Taylor, Smith, Newton, Winston, can all motor. And as we lose Eli, Brady, Big Ben watch who replaces them.

    The HS 100m record is a 10.00 held by Trendarvis Friday, that beats every Olympics up to 1980. Bob Hayes had a 10.06PR.
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    Every time we see one of these 5-11 QB's with mobility what do we hear, yep......Russell Wilson makes it work.

    That Alabama QB will be .....Russell Wilson makes it work......ha

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    What do all these NFL players have in common?

    Milt Campbell
    Bo Roberson
    Bob Hayes
    Frank Budd
    Gerald Tinker
    Ray Norton
    Johnny Jones
    James Jett
    Sam Graddy
    Willie Gault
    Larry Burton
    Ron Brown
    Michael Bates
    Henry Carr
    Ollie Matson
    Stone Johnson

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    My God guy are you really this messed up? Dude, grow the up, ok?

    You enter my thread to act re ed, why?

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    Cluck Cluck

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    Dude, do your friends know ya act like this? Come on guy, aren't you a bit old for that?

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    It must suck knowing somebody here knows all this stuff and you don't, huh?

    So what college did these footballers attend?

    Hiawatha Francisco
    Fair Hooker
    Haven Moses
    Pervis Atkins
    Cyril Pinder
    Israel Lang
    Altie Taylor
    Hewritt Dixon
    Elvis Pea
    Moses Denson
    Mackinley Dillingham
    Gloster Richardson
    Golden Richards
    Elbert "Golden Wheels" Dubenion
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    aren't you a bit old for that?
    Is this what you tell 18 year olds?

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    What do all these NFL players have in common?

    Milt Campbell
    Bo Roberson
    Bob Hayes
    Frank Budd
    Gerald Tinker
    Ray Norton
    Johnny Jones
    James Jett
    Sam Graddy
    Willie Gault
    Larry Burton
    Ron Brown
    Michael Bates
    Henry Carr
    Ollie Matson
    Stone Johnson
    You've masturbated while thinking of them.

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    Is this what you tell 18 year olds?
    Aren't you bored with that silliness by now, everyone else is.

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    You've masturbated while thinking of them.
    I have never masturbated.

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    I need somebody to make me....

    **** Avante 2018 Football Thread ****

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    The reason every team needs a speed receiver is what we saw with the Vikes. You MUST have somebody who can go the distance from anywhere on the field, something a possession receiver can't do.

    Adam Thielan the white WR (go with a TE if need be) for the Vikes got me thinking.

    Best white WR per team.

    Niners...Dwight Clark
    Rams...Tom Fears/"Crazy Legs" Hirsh both in the HOF
    Seahawks...Steve Largent HOF
    Cards...Bobby Joe Conrad
    Saints....Dan Abramoweicz
    Falcons....?
    Panthers...Greg Olsen
    Buc's...?
    Packers...Boyd Dowler
    Bears....Mike Ditka HOF
    Vikes....anyone better than Thielan?
    Lions....Yale Lary
    Redskins...Jackie Smith
    Cowboys...Jason Witten
    Eagles...Tommy McDonals HOF
    Giants...Del Shofner
    Chargers....Lance Alworth HOF
    Raiders...Fred Biletnikoff HOF
    Chiefs...Fred Arbansas
    Broncos...Steve Watson
    Steelers...Gary Ballman
    Ravens...hmmm?
    Bengals....Chris Collinsworth
    Browns...Dante Levelli HOF
    Colts...Ray Berry HOF
    ans/Oilers...Charlie Hennighan .....this cat was great.
    Jags....hmmm?
    Texans...???
    Pats...Wes Welker
    Jets...Don Maynard HOF
    Bills...Bill Miller
    Dolphins...Howard Twilley

    That was done off the top of my head so I might be wrong, what do you have?

    Won't go way back because we had no black receivers long ago.

    White WR combo's from 1960 to present.

    Packers...Boyd Dowler/Carroll Dale
    Jets....Don Maynard/George Sauer
    Chargers...Lance Alworth/Gary Garrison
    Cards...Bobby Joe Conrad/Sonny Randle
    Oilers...Charlie Hennighan/Bill Groman a 9.5 sprinter
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    The reason every team needs a speed receiver is what we saw with the Vikes. You MUST have somebody who can go the distance from anywhere on the field, something a possession receiver can't do.

    Adam Thielan the white WR (go with a TE if need be) for the Vikes got me thinking.

    Best white WR per team.

    Niners...Dwight Clark
    Rams...Tom Fears/"Crazy Legs" Hirsh both in the HOF
    Seahawks...Steve Largent HOF
    Cards...Bobby Joe Conrad
    Saints....Dan Abramoweicz
    Falcons....?
    Panthers...Greg Olsen
    Buc's...?
    Packers...Boyd Dowler
    Bears....Mike Ditka HOF
    Vikes....anyone better than Thielan?
    Lions....Yale Lary
    Redskins...Jackie Smith
    Cowboys...Jason Witten
    Eagles...Tommy McDonals HOF
    Giants...Del Shofner
    Chargers....Lance Alworth HOF
    Raiders...Fred Biletnikoff HOF
    Chiefs...Fred Arbansas
    Broncos...Steve Watson
    Steelers...Gary Ballman
    Ravens...hmmm?
    Bengals....Chris Collinsworth
    Browns...Dante Levelli HOF
    Colts...Ray Berry HOF
    ans/Oilers...Charlie Hennighan .....this cat was great.
    Jags....hmmm?
    Texans...???
    Pats...Wes Welker
    Jets...Don Maynard HOF
    Bills...Bill Miller
    Dolphins...Howard Twilley

    That was done off the top of my head so I might be wrong, what do you have?

    Won't go way back because we had no black receivers long ago.

    White WR combo's from 1960 to present.

    Packers...Boyd Dowler/Carroll Dale
    Jets....Don Maynard/George Sauer
    Chargers...Lance Alworth/Gary Garrison
    Cards...Bobby Joe Conrad/Sonny Randle
    Oilers...Charlie Hennighan/Bill Groman a 9.5 sprinter
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    doesn't have DON HUTSON

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    football historian
    doesn't have DON HUTSON
    Why don't I have Don Hutson?

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    Why don't I have Don Hutson?
    boyd dowler ahead of don hutson

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    boyd dowler ahead of don hutson
    I know, I actually have Hutson on my All Time team with Rice. Nobody ever dominated their position vs era like he did.

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